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OT: Rothstein - Big East could play 20 conference games if it adds 11th team

Guapo said:
Other than Wright, there is simply no one that can match the resumé of Ollie, Marshall, Tuby Smith or even Cronin.
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Chris Mack has a better resume than lil Micky.
 
uconngb said:
I actually think it's pretty close to zero today and worry that every hoops game we play as a member of the AAC is one game we are closer to irrelevance or even extinction as we know it. I'm not a non-football fan, I just don't see any way we become a truly viable P5 program and am incredibly worried it continues to tarnish our hoops pedigree, which is my #1 concern by a mile. Just my opinion.
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It's close to 0% today, but as we've seen, and experienced, that can change in an instant. Too hard to predict the landscape
 
Cant get away from the fact I hate the aac and its rednecks...dont watch any other conference games except ours and the endless drivel from Eastern Carolina etc just wears thin
 
Fake News! I'll believe it when it happens. Until then, we are stuck in the AAC and those 1500 mile plane rides for our athletic teams... not just bball.
 
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Bagel&Cheese said:
Fake News! I'll believe it when it happens. Until then, we are stuck in the AAC and those 1500 mile plane rides for our athletic teams... not just bball.
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A plane ride is a plane ride.

Just a little less uninterrupted time with the algebra book.
 
chiller99.5 said:
Cant get away from the fact I hate the aac and its rednecks...dont watch any other conference games except ours and the endless drivel from Eastern Carolina etc just wears thin
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Is it really southerners? Or is it more of a basketball versus football problem?

To have a decent football conference, UConn should be playing 'rednecks' in those football crazy states..

If UConn just wants to play sports in a smaller Northern bubble, than a Hoops-only league can accomplish that.

I like what Randy is doing. I'll enjoy watching him build the program back up again.
 
Speaking for myself, if you do something well ...keep on doing it. We have done basketball very very well in the past ..Watching a Giants ,Pats or Jets game once a week is plenty of football for me and I have no intentions of watching any aac rivals play anytime soon. I also said rednecks not southerners, and if you have ever been or stationed in eastern NC you know exactly what I mean. I know not of this sports bubble you speak of, Ive watched UCONN hoop on air craft carriers and tournaments all over the world against every conference known to man.
 
chiller99.5 said:
Speaking for myself, if you do something well ...keep on doing it. We have done basketball very very well in the past ..Watching a Giants ,Pats or Jets game once a week is plenty of football for me and I have no intentions of watching any aac rivals play anytime soon. I also said rednecks not southerners, and if you have ever been or stationed in eastern NC you know exactly what I mean. I know not of this sports bubble you speak of, Ive watched UCONN hoop on air craft carriers and tournaments all over the world against every conference known to man.
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Have fun watching them match up against A10 and MWC as "marquee OOC opponents" when the P5 cartel breaks off and (shocker) doesn't take the Big East with it.
 
huskymedic said:
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What does this even mean? Is he saying that the NBE has better schools and coaches then the real Big East did? Did Calhoun and Boeheim not count because their schools also played football?
Maybe he's comparing them to someone else, I don't know.
Of course Providence has relevance within the Big East now that it didn't then, so no wonder he's psyched about UConn, Syracuse, Pitt and even Louisville and ND being gone.
 
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You must have a hotline to Miss Cleo with that drivel btw basing your hopes on RE who failed miserably in a power conference seems logical? Like I said speaking for myself...I dont ride the "football drives the bus" train of thought high school football is less than mediocre in CT and the draw is minimal....hold on to that I hope they take us with them thought its been so successful so far
 
chiller99.5 said:
You must have a hotline to Miss Cleo with that drivel btw basing your hopes on RE who failed miserably in a power conference seems logical? Like I said speaking for myself...I dont ride the "football drives the bus" train of thought high school football is less than mediocre in CT and the draw is minimal....hold on to that I hope they take us with them thought its been so successful so far
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Not drivel at all. Anyone who knows anything about where college sports are headed knows that the P5 schools have been taking every conceivable step to separate themselves from the rest in the hopes of a clean break.

The argument that Edsall's tenure at Maryland means he can't stabilize a program a tier down and make it just as attractive to a power conference the others it's competing with? Fallacious at best.
 
uconn would be fine if they'd win in the conference they're in and make some noise come tournament time. Football will get better. And when it does I hope the AAC teams in the top 25 are still good.
 
Stairmaster said:
Have fun watching them match up against A10 and MWC as "marquee OOC opponents" when the P5 cartel breaks off and (shocker) doesn't take the Big East with it.
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I think uconn will be in the Acc or b1G by 2020
 
Stairmaster said:
Not drivel at all. Anyone who knows anything about where college sports are headed knows that the P5 schools have been taking every conceivable step to separate themselves from the rest in the hopes of a clean break.

The argument that Edsall's tenure at Maryland means he can't stabilize a program a tier down and make it just as attractive to a power conference the others it's competing with? Fallacious at best.
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No way the P5 are breaking away.
1. CTE is going to kill football in the next 10 years.
2. They are not going to kill their cash cow, March Madness.
3. They are not going to give up home games against cupcakes.
4. The NBE is better than at least 2 of the P5 leagues so they aren't getting left behind.
5. Say hello to a massive anti-trust lawsuit.

What is likely to happen is Division 1 is split with the top 200 or so schools surviving so that there can still be March Madness, cupcake games, Cinderella, and the major conferences will get more bids,
 
"The argument that Edsall's tenure at Maryland means he can't stabilize a program a tier down and make it just as attractive to a power conference the others it's competing with? Fallacious at best."

I be happy to believe he could do this but I dont see any comparable success in his past ...Coaches that are coveted and valued dont assume massive rebuild projects, they are scooped up by other power conferences competing teams. The football program is at least another head coach away from being "attractive" and attendance pretty much proves that point.
 
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shizzle787 said:
No way the P5 are breaking away.
1. CTE is going to kill football in the next 10 years.
2. They are not going to kill their cash cow, March Madness.
3. They are not going to give up home games against cupcakes.
4. The NBE is better than at least 2 of the P5 leagues so they aren't getting left behind.
5. Say hello to a massive anti-trust lawsuit.

What is likely to happen is Division 1 is split with the top 200 or so schools surviving so that there can still be March Madness, cupcake games, Cinderella, and the major conferences will get more bids,
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@shizzle787 I like you.

However, as I've mentioned here before, anyone who thinks college football is dying within the next 10 years has not spent many autumn Saturdays outside the northeast.

Not saying football is ethically right or wrong, I'm just stating fact.

I really think people here have trouble fully grasping just how MASSIVE of a deal college football is in the South and parts of the Midwest.
 
StunningSteve said:
So what??? Both Xavier and Temple are different teams than they were last year.

Temple last year didn't have Josh Brown and a Sophomore Quentin Rose, along with the NC Freshman class. Rose will be one of the biggest talents in the country this year.

Xavier is also stronger this year than they were last year. They wont be 7th.

7th is likely to be Butler, sans Chris Holtmann, Kyle Young, Cooper Neese, etc. Jordan hasn't peed a drop as a HC. His first season at Milwaukee was pedestrian to be polite.

Making assumptions based on last year is not the most wise thing to do around here.
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I couldnt care less about other sports, I care about Uconn men's basketball. And in terms of comparing teams, someone said they would take Temple over the BE's 7th team. Based on what? The BE is pretty solid 1-7, definitely more solid than the AAC, and that's assuming you put Georgetown and St Johns in the bottom 3, both of which have more history than anyone in the AAC save for a couple teams. I don't know how anyone could look at the two conferences, top to bottom, and say the AAC is superior to the BE in men's hoops. I'm too lazy to do the research, but I'm pretty sure the BE has put more teams in the tourney EVERY year since the split than the AAC, so don't accuse me of cherry picking unless you have the facts to back it up. Like I said, get rid of the schools that are consistently above 150-200 in the RPI and bring in VCU and I'll change my tune. But right now your case is pretty hard to make.
 
intlzncster said:
It's close to 0% today, but as we've seen, and experienced, that can change in an instant. Too hard to predict the landscape
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I hope you're right, but hope isn't a strategy!!
 
shizzle787 said:
No way the P5 are breaking away.
1. CTE is going to kill football in the next 10 years.
2. They are not going to kill their cash cow, March Madness.
3. They are not going to give up home games against cupcakes.
4. The NBE is better than at least 2 of the P5 leagues so they aren't getting left behind.
5. Say hello to a massive anti-trust lawsuit.

What is likely to happen is Division 1 is split with the top 200 or so schools surviving so that there can still be March Madness, cupcake games, Cinderella, and the major conferences will get more bids,
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CTE is not going to kill football.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
CTE is not going to kill football.
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Within five years, doctors will be able to diagnose CTE among the living. That will result in studies where the participants have CTE scans before and after playing the sport for a couple years in different levels (high school, college, NFL). When the results come back showing that the vast majority developed CTE after playing football, it will be toast.
 
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shizzle787 said:
Within five years, doctors will be able to diagnose CTE among the living. That will result in studies where the participants have CTE scans before and after playing the sport for a couple years in different levels (high school, college, NFL). When the results come back showing that the vast majority developed CTE after playing football, it will be toast.
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Would love to bet you on that
 
shizzle787 said:
Within five years, doctors will be able to diagnose CTE among the living. That will result in studies where the participants have CTE scans before and after playing the sport for a couple years in different levels (high school, college, NFL). When the results come back showing that the vast majority developed CTE after playing football, it will be toast.
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you think people who 1.have the opportunity to go to college for free and play a sport they love. 2. have experiences others can only dream of. 3. go on to the NFL to make millions of dollars playing the sport they love. 4. make enough money to support their families and their kids kids, are going to not play they game because of CTE? I'm sorry but that's not happening. It's a mutual agreement. No one is going to force them to play if they don't want to. They can leave when they want to
 
UConnSwag11 said:
you think people who 1.have the opportunity to go to college for free and play a sport they love. 2. have experiences others can only dream of. 3. go on to the NFL to make millions of dollars playing the sport they love. 4. make enough money to support their families and their kids kids, are going to not play they game because of CTE? I'm sorry but that's not happening. It's a mutual agreement. No one is going to force them to play if they don't want to. They can leave when they want to
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The NFL is already seeing the effects of concussions. The biggest stars in the game are mostly in their thirties. The California pipeline for kids is closing. The participation rates in that state are going down at the high school level.
When health insurance companies qualify playing football as the same as smoking cigarettes, you'll have a problem.
Just remember something: most of the poor kids in inner cities are the ones that are not going to have many options and thus try to make it big in football. When the local school district decides to can football for insurance reasons, these kids will have no path to the NFL.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
I think uconn will be in the Acc or b1G by 2020
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Ok..I'm intrigued.what on earth would make you think that is going to happen within the next 26 months? No factor that seems to matter to power conferences appears to point to that outcome. Do you project that the football program will attract the big ten?
 
If I thought the P5 would take UCONN, I'd say stay in the AAC. Since I don't, Big East all the way. Better basketball conference, more teams I care about playing, and it's where UCONN has always belonged. I'm agnostic about the football question, I think the sport could decline faster than many people think, but then again it might not. But as long as football is king, UCONN isn't getting a P5 bid. If it goes away, no problem being in the Big East anyway.
 
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