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Room Or Interest In Mac for 2021?

Ajs120102 said:
No players allowed to transfer in conference.
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Etienne not McClung. that's also a stupid rule since other conferences allow it.
 
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UcannUconn said:
I follow this stuff pretty closely and I think we are OUT on Mac
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can you elaborate just a bit when you make these pronunciations? i'm sure we'd all appreciate it.

if true, i'm happier with sanogo in 2020 and clingan in 2022 anyways

sonogo/brown/springs in 2020, mac in 2021, clingan in 2022... we didnt even carry that many centers on the roster in the mid 2000s
 
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That’s the feeling I got, love to have him, but not like before. Especially if we are in good with Clingan.
 
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He could still reclassify, so there’s no way to answer this yet.
 
Kehon said:
^ not true he was on the ticket list but it was said something came up last minute.
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I deleted the post so the rumor doesnt continue to spread.
 
NJHoops said:
How so? Top 60 talent with a game that fits the system, by all accounts a good kid- seems ok to me.
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Where's the playing time in '21 or '22? I'm not that poster, but seems a better fit would be using the scholarship elsewhere instead of a 3rd player at the position that requires the least positional versatility from a roster perspective (and a top 60 guy isn't going to want to redshirt). Unless we think Sanogo is a 1 or 2 and done.

I get staying active with him in case a center slot opens up, but he'll likely commit somewhere within the next few months to a year and the only thing we might know is if Sanogo is on the very early track to be a 1 or 2 and done. With big bodied non-shooting centers being devalued in the NBA and his height it seems unlikely for Sanogo. Kofi averaged 14 and 9 on a 110 ORTG as a freshman and isn't even getting sniffed by the league (draft people didn't have him in their top 100 prospects when he initially declared).

I don't know if Javonte Brown Ferguson or Sanogo can play the 4, but it seems they're both too big (in different ways). Could Etienne? That could help with the fit. But even then we'll likely still have Akok and Springs for '21, which puts Mac 4th or 5th on the bigs depth chart depending who he can beat out as a freshman, before considering smaller lineups. Seems the scholarship would be better used on a smaller player. But that all being said, if we were in the best position with him vs. our other options being someone considerably worse, I'd take him before you could say Souleymane Wane.
 
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You absolutely take this kid if he wants to come. We should have a minimum of 4 scholarships, and we’re losing 2 bigs. In 2021-22, we should have Sanogo, Akok, Springs, and Brown-Ferguson as bigs, but I think you ideally would like to have 5-6 bigs on your 13 man roster. He’d have to fight for minutes, but if you can sell him on the fact that that fight will only make him better, then he would be the perfect big for the 4 man class. Other 3 spots should go to a PG, a shooter, and a combo forward type.
 
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BleedHuskyBlu said:
Even if we could get him, dont think he would fit with what we are building
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How so? I think he’s a great fit.
auror said:
Where's the playing time in '21 or '22? I'm not that poster, but seems a better fit would be using the scholarship elsewhere instead of a 3rd player at the position that requires the least positional versatility from a roster perspective (and a top 60 guy isn't going to want to redshirt). Unless we think Sanogo is a 1 or 2 and done.

I get staying active with him in case a center slot opens up, but he'll likely commit somewhere within the next few months to a year and the only thing we might know is if Sanogo is on the very early track to be a 1 or 2 and done. With big bodied non-shooting centers being devalued in the NBA and his height it seems unlikely for Sanogo. Kofi averaged 14 and 9 on a 110 ORTG as a freshman and isn't even getting sniffed by the league (draft people didn't have him in their top 100 prospects when he initially declared).

I don't know if Javonte Brown Ferguson or Sanogo can play the 4, but it seems they're both too big (in different ways). Could Etienne? That could help with the fit. But even then we'll likely still have Akok and Springs for '21, which puts Mac 4th or 5th on the bigs depth chart depending who he can beat out as a freshman, before considering smaller lineups. Seems the scholarship would be better used on a smaller player. But that all being said, if we were in the best position with him vs. our other options being someone considerably worse, I'd take him before you could say Souleymane Wane.
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I wasn’t really asking about the logistics of it. The original comment (“Even if we could get him, dont think he would fit with what we are building”) seems like a criticism of him personally.
 
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BleedHuskyBlu said:
Even if we could get him, dont think he would fit with what we are building
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Cause I saw this statement referenced a few time. To clarify, so you mean he doesn’t fit roster construction wise (players at his position) or personality/ability wise fit? If you’re saying he would be too many bigs, I can see that. Scheme wise though, his ability to hedge/defend, he seems like a “Hurley guy” imo.
 
We need as many good players we can collect so crazy to think they'd like to measure who they get and when because it's too unpredictable. But would like to make sure there's room for a Clingan from in state to stay home and rep. If there's a plethora of bigs on the roster does he shy away? I mean the staff has to figure that out and I trust in them so keep winning recruiting battles, that's all we can ask.
 
Maybe Chief will change his mind, young guns can change in a season. There are other players who excite me more, from a sense of what I think they will contribute.
 
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While it’s fun speculating, I think Hurley has a pretty solid idea of what he wants and how to get it done. Thrilled with what he’s done to build the team. No doubt more is to come as we march back to take back the throne.
 
The 3x-4x I've watched Etienne, he's played ok but hasn't played to his ranking . He has shown certain particular skills, like the ability to shoot from mid range and the 3 point line, as well as the mobility to defensively pressure the ball and trap guards in the backcourt at the point of a full court zone press, (mobility to trap but don't overly infer quickness). To me, that means he has the mobility to do the defensive hedging and retreating back to the paint that Hurley likes from bigs. He has missed a lot of shots at the rim when I have seen him. Like Carlton, he puts back some of those misses. Athletically he's a lot like Carlton. The key with him is that he has a scoring mindset and gives a team offense. I think he can play the 4 and cover the center position whenever needed on any switching. Clingan and Brown-Ferguson are only going to be centers and one or the other will be on the court, Sanogo is a center that might be able to play with another big. Etienne definitely can because of his shooting. I don't see any reason these 4 can't be on the same team. (I'll also admit that my sense of greed wants Alex Karaban, and now that I have been shown the light, Kyle Filipowski) That is a 6 man national championship rotation of bigs in 2022 that might find 3 on the floor together in certain situations due to the perimeter skills of Karaban & Filipowski.
 
Yankees32123 said:
Carlton and Whaley will be graduating. Plenty of room for Etienne.
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Maybe. Does he think that? Sanogo, Javonte Brown Ferguson and Springs each with 3 more years of eligibility. The downside of Springs redshirt year is that we brought in 3 bigs in one class. Plus Akok, who we might have expected to go pro, will be delayed in that effort. If Sanogo ends up looking like a two year player, then Mac makes more sense.

Would like a PG for 2021 to learn behind Cole and Gaffney. Probably a shooting guard and/or wing as well.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Sanogo, Javonte Brown Ferguson and Springs each with 3 more years of eligibility
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i said something similar above. in 2021 we could have:

PF- akok/springs/patterson(?)
C- sanogo/brown/mac(?)

that's a lot of bigs and there aren't a lot of minutes available behind akok and sanogo to begin with.
but just to play devil's advocate- in 2022 akok and sanogo expect to be gone, in which case we might be thin up front without mac:

PF- springs/patterson
C- brown/clingan(?)

is clingan expected to start as a freshman or would we have to rely on brown developing into a quality starter as a junior? springs can split time at C too though, which would balance things out. and lets not forget about martin who will probably be a redshirt senior in 2022 and can play some stretch 4.

PF- springs/patterson/martin
C- brown/clingan
 
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