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husky429 said:
Rocket Watts shot 38% from 2 point land--he ain't the answer. To be fair neither is Cole, Gaffney, Diggins, or Jackson. Rese or Hawkins might need to be the answer. Which isn't good
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I’m not even referring to finishing at the rim. I’m talking about just breaking down the defense so that we get better 3 point looks. We need more than Watts. BUT we could use a Rocket Watts
 
husky429 said:
Gaffney: 6.1/1.5/1.5. 19mins, 41% from the field, 36% from 3.

Rocket: 7.7/1.7/2.7. 23 mins, 34% from the field, 25% from 3.

Rocket is still probably the better player because he can handle the ball more, but it's hardly cut and dry. The kids is a terrible, terrible, terrible scorer. Hard pass.

Should we talk about defense? Rocket had 0.1 (yes, that is not a typo) steals per game, 0.3 per 40. Gaffney had 0.8 per game, 1.6 per 40.

Offensive rating? 88 vs 110, guess whose was above 100?

Defensive rating? 111 vs 101, guess whose was better again?
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People sometimes get too obsessed with stats. The kid was a bad fit with Izzo and MSU for whatever reasons and because they don't have a point guard Izzo tried to transition him there and it didn't work at all. If you actually watch the kid play you can see there's untapped talent there. He has a chance to be one of those players who blows up somewhere else, I would like that to be at UConn.
 
navery12 said:
And with our current lineup, 3 defenders who are going to sit in the lane the entire time because they don't need to respect the shooting (Sanogo, Whaley, Jackson). That's as big of a factor as any why we have nobody who can get into the lane
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That’s why we need to solve both problems. One way to solve a shooting problem is to get your shooters better shots. We have guys in Cole, Gaff, Hawkins, Martin (sometimes) and maybe Polley, that can make an open 3. We can get more open 3’s with a creative, lane penetrating guard, like Rocket Watts.
 
husky429 said:
Can he though?

Let me repeat: 34% from the field, 25% from 3.

I could score 7 points a game if you let me shoot as much as I wanted, too.

I can understand the interest if we're not feeling very good about our other options. He can't score efficiently or defend worth a lick. Pass.
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No you couldn't.
 
We don’t need him to be MVP Derrick Rose. We just need another competent ball handler who can consistently get into the paint. We aren’t asking for much
 
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Hoophound said:
That’s why we need to solve both problems. One way to solve a shooting problem is to get your shooters better shots. We have guys in Cole, Gaff, Hawkins, Martin (sometimes) and maybe Polley, that can make an open 3. We can get more open 3’s with a creative, lane penetrating guard, like Rocket Watts.
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If we're adding Watts and a shooter then sure I can get on board with him. He's definitely talented
 
Kemba'sYogurt said:


His shot reminds me a lot of Rodney Purvis. Looks like without the same success though lol
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I count 9 layups the entire season and 0 dunks. Relies way too much on the floater even though he seems to be able to make layups with both hands. Fixable.

Timing on his shot sucks. He's shooting on the way down. That's fixable.
 
My thing is, the dude was a freshman. Very few freshman have impact years, year one. Why wouldn’t he improve with Hurley?
 
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Give me a guy who can penetrate and dump the ball off to our bigs, something we rarely ever saw last year. Can only imagine what Sanogo, Whaley and Jackson can do when someone dumps it off to them in the lane.
 
husky429 said:
I count 9 layups the entire season and 0 dunks. Relies way too much on the floater even though he seems to be able to make layups with both hands. Fixable.

Timing on his shot sucks. He's shooting on the way down. That's fixable.
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Yeah it seems, especially on his midrange pullups, that he hangs and shoots almost fading backwards. Taking too long and poor balance. He's taking too many contested shots in general, and doesn't have a great ability to separate (or the length and athleticism to shoot over the defense), so he's compensating with this poor form. It's probably fixable with film work, shooting work, and a different role/scheme that puts him in better situations.

It's hard to know whether I'm hung up on wanting him out of HS, his pedigree, his awesome name... or definitely all of the above. But I do want to try and fix him. I'm not sure if we're able to land a better option we don't have to fix, but we've struck out so far.
 
phillionaire said:
Rocket Watts presented by Rocket Mortgage
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An NIL natural baby!

I look forward to recruiting GEICO Daniels and Kraft Foods Davis at some point in the future.
 
His numbers look bad but the kid was the 35th ranked player out of high school and was on the Big 10 all freshman team.
 
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Was it not posted that Kentucky and Baylor are after him? I mean that's pretty good company if true. Putting aside the freshman, we need an upgrade at guard. Would I prefer he shot lights out from deep? Of course. We also need someone who can break his man down though. He has talent and has had some big games. Perhaps a change of scenery and a different voice and system can be a tipping point for him. Seems worth a dice roll with the way things are shaking out. It also doesn't preclude us from still going after a shooter.
 
Nebraskan18 said:
Do any insiders actually know if we are even in contention here? Or is this whole thread for nothing haha
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Whole thread was started because of a story as believable as the guy at the carwash lmao
 
husky429 said:
Gaffney: 6.1/1.5/1.5. 19mins, 41% from the field, 36% from 3.

Rocket: 7.7/1.7/2.7. 23 mins, 34% from the field, 25% from 3.

Rocket is still probably the better player because he can handle the ball more, but it's hardly cut and dry. The kids is a terrible, terrible, terrible scorer. Hard pass.

Should we talk about defense? Rocket had 0.1 (yes, that is not a typo) steals per game, 0.3 per 40. Gaffney had 0.8 per game, 1.6 per 40.

Offensive rating? 88 vs 110, guess whose was above 100?

Defensive rating? 111 vs 101, guess whose was better again?
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Facts, Schmacks, who needs them when a "name" recruit we missed on two years ago is available again?
Forget the recent transfer and other recruits that will crowd his playing time in East Lansing..............:rolleyes:
 
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no more guards who can't dunk, unless they look like what mr diggins might be.
im pretty sure even mr sool has some dunking ability in him.
mr. watts looks like he has one repeatable shtik- the soft floater 10 feet in. nice, valuable, but not 'my kingdom for a horse' valuable. pass.
and, why can't we ever have that white kid from peoria who falls out of bed in the morning jacking 3s, and making half of them?
seriously, what the heck is that all aboot as it's been going on long enough here to make the honest observer wonder 'what's up with that?'
yeah, i said it.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
It’s wild that people talk about Cole - who is basically a 40% three point shooter - like he can’t hit the broad side of a barn and then want to bring in a kid who actually can’t hit the broad side of a barn.
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Cole is slower than half of us on here, I don’t follow Rocket but is he real quick? We need a guy that can break down his man. If he’s really quick I’d take him. Wanted Fatts. He was a monster when healthy as a junior. We mentored a starter at URI so watch a ton of their games. Don’t @ me about his senior year, Fatts was hurt most of the year.

Cole is a decent shooter but plays with the quicks of us middle aged Y hoopers.
 
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rip7774 said:
Cole is slower than half of us on here, I don’t follow Rocket but is he real quick? We need a guy that can break down his man. If he’s really quick I’d take him. Wanted Fatts. He was a monster when healthy as a junior. We mentored a starter at URI so watch a ton of their games. Don’t @ me about his senior year, Fatts was hurt most of the year.

Cole is a decent shooter but play’s it’s the quicks of us middle aged Y hoopers.
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He would be our quickest guard.
 
Why is this an "either or" with Cole? How about both. The list of schools above plus Kentucky that have reached out to him kind of speak for themselves. That's a pretty strong group. People complain about our guards and now nobody is good enough for us. He is far from perfect and doesn't fill the shooting need, but he at least he has a couple skills we are lacking in the backcourt...Quickness and the ability to get by his man off the bounce.
 
i can talk myself into almost any new players....would watts not be our best player off the dribble? who on the roster can create their own shot besides sanogo and occasionally gaff?

think we're going to see a lot of zone defense next year so if watts can penetrate and dump it off to our bigs or just create a little bit of space for cole/hawk/gaff/polley to catch and shoot then that will help a lot

i'll take a 3 way split at SG with watts/hawk/gaff and a 3 way split at SF with aj/martin/polley

gotta hope at least 2 of those 6 would play well any given night
 
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