OT: Rock And Roll HOF

[superjohn]

Robert Palmer should be in there.

 

[superjohn]

I think The Monkees are the most glaring oversight. And letting in Foreigner was like baseball letting in Harold Baines. It was the end of any standards.

Foreigner is one of the top selling rock bands of all-time and Lou Gramm was a vocal powerhouse.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Robert Palmer should be in there.

He absolutely does. I'm suprised that he isn't in.



This is from a decade before Addicted to Love/MTV nd one of the best things he did,

 

[dvegas]

He absolutely does. I'm suprised that he isn't in.



This is from a decade before Addicted to Love/MTV nd one of the best things he did,

Funny you should mention Robert Palmer because I was lambasted for suggesting The Meters are the RNR HOF's biggest omission. The Meters & Lowell George were the backing band on Palmers "Sneaking Sally Through The Alley" album.

Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

As a side note, I saw him in 1987 at RCMH (Addicted to Love tour). Keith Hernandez & his daughters sat right in front of me and my date.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Foreigner is one of the top selling rock bands of all-time and Lou Gramm was a vocal powerhouse.

I thought it was a little strange that we had people complaining about Foreigner being in and The Meters not being in.

 

[cullaville]

Foreigner is one of the top selling rock bands of all-time and Lou Gramm was a vocal powerhouse.

this criteria might not mean much. I looked up three lists of bestselling artists - one was top 20 and Foreigner was not on it, one was top 25 and foreigner was 17 and a list that just listed artist in order had Foreigner at 71st.

 

[Waquoit]

Foreigner is one of the top selling rock bands of all-time and Lou Gramm was a vocal powerhouse.

Yeah, corporate rock. Boston was 10x better.

 

[Kolumbo]

So this article about Sammy Hagar being a guitar hero came up on my feed. Sammy is in the HOF with Van Halen and I was curious how good he was outside of Van Halen. It also got me to thinking about people who were inducted as part of a band, solo, or both, or multiple bands.

Might be a good separate thread. Rather than just list all of the people and their bands, some may want to display their knowledge.

1. Paul McCartney - The Beatles 1988 - Solo Career 1999

“Eddie Van Halen could say: ‘I got this idea,’ and Sammy could pick up a guitar and go, ‘Yes, but what about this?’” why Sammy Hagar is the greatest guitar hero no one talks about

He’s played with six-string icons Ronnie Montrose, Eddie Van Halen and Joe Satriani – but Sammy Hagar is a hell of a guitarist himself

www.loudersound.com

 

[HuskyHawk]

Yeah, corporate rock. Boston was 10x better.

Boston was better. Both were good. Neither were "corporate rock" which mostly became a thing in the 90s as overproduction and then autotune started to become common and MTV influence meant less focus on the music. Now we have AI bands. It's pathetic and sad.

 

[Waquoit]

Neither were "corporate rock" which mostly became a thing in the 90s as overproduction and then autotune started to become common and MTV influence meant less focus on the music.

Did you read this on Wikipedia? Because "corporate rock" was a common term in the 70's.

 

[superjohn]

Yeah, corporate rock. Boston was 10x better.

It's funny you say that because I always associate the two bands with each other. I'm not much of a fan of either but give Foreigner the slight edge because of Lou Gramm's voice.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Did you read this on Wikipedia? Because "corporate rock" was a common term in the 70's.

No. My father in law was in the record business in that era, so I got a lot of inside background on it. You may mean something different by "corporate", but Boston was a group of talented musicians formed from a band called Mother's Milk. Stoltz was the genius behind it, started it while at MIT. Most of that debut album was recorded in the home studio Stoltz built in his basement. Very non-corporate.

Foreigner's origin is likewise not very corporate. If you mean AOR, which shouldn't be called corporate rock, fine. Nearly every band you've heard of in that era is AOR.

For me, Corporate denotes an artist designed by a marketing team from day one. I suppose the Monkees were the first, and then rebelled against it. Now that's a huge chunk of modern acts. Simon Crowel put One Direction together.

 

[Waquoit]

My father in law was in the record business in that era, so I got a lot of inside background on it.

I have no inside background but I read Creem Magazine in the 70's and they called Foreigner corporate rock.

 

[Waquoit]

It's funny you say that because I always associate the two bands with each other. I'm not much of a fan of either but give Foreigner the slight edge because of Lou Gramm's voice.

What makes Boston more HOF-worthy too me was that they were phenomenon when they first hit the airwaves. They sounded much better on the typical car stereo then anything else. I think they were influential in making other bands pick up their sound game. That entire first album is good. I always considered Foreigner as replacement-level hard rock; only as good as their hits. Their one most identifiable riff came from a hired sax player.

 

[Kolumbo]

 

[FfldCntyFan]

I heard nearly a week ago (when it was first announced), sad news.

Look at the list of musicians that played with the Bluesbreakers at one point or another, amazing collection of talent.

According to legend Mayall didn't start playing the guitar (or even think about being a musician) until he was around 20 years old, serving a mandatory service obligation for the British military.