OT: Rock And Roll HOF

[HuskyHawk]

Tull, Supertramp, Little Feat, Tower of Power, The Meters
All should be in.

I like Tull and Little Feat, but no. About 1/3 of the existing HOF should be kicked out. Not every band with a few good records belongs in the HOF. By these standards half of all MLB players would be in the HOF. I admit, that seems to be what it is, but it should be for the best of the best.

 

[Milo65]

Joe Cocker is not in the RRHOF

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Glenn was on OG ragin' against the machine. Rinestone Cowboy? Legendary eye poke at commercializaiton and the trappings of fame.

I've been walkin' these streets so long
Singin' the same old song
I know every crack in these dirty sidewalks of Broadway
Where hustle's the name of the game
And nice guys get washed away like the snow in the rain
There's been a load of compromising
On the road to my horizon
But I'm gonna be where the lights are shinin' on me
Like a rhinestone cowboy
Riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo
Like a rhinestone cowboy
Getting cards and letters from people I don't even know
And offers comin' over the phone
Well, I really don't mind the rain
And the smile can hide all the pain
But you're down when you're ridin' the train that's takin' the long way
And I dream of the things I'll do
With a subway token and a dollar tucked inside my shoe
There'll be a load of compromisin'
On the road to my horizon
But I'm gonna be where the lights are shinin' on me
Like a rhinestone cowboy
Riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo
Rhinestone cowboy
Gettin' cards and letters from people I don't even know
And offers comin' over the phone
Like a rhinestone cowboy
Riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo
Like a rhinestone cowboy
Gettin' cards and letters from people I don't even know
Like a rhinestone cowboy

Don't diss Glen.

He was (briefly) a critical member of the Wrecking Crew, tour with the Beach Boys in the mid 1960's as Brian Wilson's replacement and was one of the best pickers ever.

 

[Dove]

Squeeze is underrated.
Steel Pulse are touring road warriors with an amazing catalog of reggae music. They will be considered one day.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Don't diss Glen.

He was (briefly) a critical member of the Wrecking Crew, tour with the Beach Boys in the mid 1960's as Brian Wilson's replacement and was one of the best pickers ever.

Dissing?

I was complimenting him.

 

[Kolumbo]

Say what you want about Foreigner. Cold As Ice is an all time great song. They are certainly as accomplished as some of the other bands that have been inducted.

I get that their music was popular at the time but I cringe when I hear them now.

 

[Hans Sprungfeld]

Lou Grant has an unreal voice - Midnight Blue is a cheesy guilty pleasure - but I think I could be just fine never hearing Foreigner, Styx or REO Speedwagon ever again.

Not quite rock, but he sure brings it...



Uncredited backup singer here:



Finally, I'd propose this as starter for a list of "banneds" ...

This is a simply irresistible thread.

 

[superjohn]

Squeeze is underrated.
Steel Pulse are touring road warriors with an amazing catalog of reggae music. They will be considered one day.

Pulling Mussels From The Shell.

 

[cullaville]

I find a lot of inconsistencies in the nominating and voting process. Kate Bush is great, but how many Americans really know a damn thing about her? And if she gets in, why are legendary UK guys like Roy Wood/The Move (Wood is already in with ELO) or Paul Weller/The Jam/Style Council not also under consideration?

If George Michael gets in, what about other pop artists with far longer histories and more hits, like The Carpenters or Cher or Phil Collins?

Progressive rock is underrepresented. I'd argue that King Crimson, Jethro Tull, and ELP are all more influential than Rush.

And when talking about "influential", strong cases could be made for The Replacement, Big Star and Thin Lizzy, bands who are routinely cited as major influences for dozens of major bands.

Here's a somewhat rando list done in 2021 of "100 Major RnRHoF Snubs". A handful, like Willie and Dolly and The Spinners have since gotten in. I don't agree with most of the suggestions, but in addition to the artists I cited above, I'd say Iggy Pop, Dionne Warwick, Glen Campbell, Brian Eno and probably The Smiths should all be next up.

If it took YES until 2017 to get in and King Crimson, ELP and Jethro Tull are not in then the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a disgrace,

It was horrible that YES was not inducted while Chris Squire was alive.

Bands like YES until they were elected and ELP, King Crimson and Jethro Tull do not need the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to validate their greatness.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I was hoping this thread would go down a rabbit hole of posters bringing up obscure bands and it hasn't disappointed.

 

[alexd]

Okay I'll play... knowing that record sales is not supposed to be a consideration when choosing but musical impact, influence on other artists, innovation and length and depth of career are...

Little Feat
Bad Company
The Meters
X
Weezer
Warren Zevon
New Order
Television

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Television

Marquee Moon is an incredible album. It's insane listening to it today that it came out almost 50 years ago. Hugely influential.

 

[Kolumbo]

Jorgensen

 

[storrsroars]

Marquee Moon is an incredible album. It's insane listening to it today that it came out almost 50 years ago. Hugely influential.

I recall being ridiculed for posting an RIP Tom Verlaine thread as nobody heard of him, or at least didn't find him noteworthy enough for a thread. Their loss.

 

[storrsroars]

It wasn't because you thought it was a secret reunion of The Beatles?

No, I don't even recall that. I do recall the rumors when people thought Badfinger was The Beatles, or at least some of them.

 

[UCTitleTown]

There are no new great rock bands coming out anymore. The new honorees are from hip hop, country etc. It's seriously time to change the name to the Music Hall of Fame and honor the best of all genres. On a side note, it was criminal how long it took them to induct The Steve Miller Band.

 

[storrsroars]

I think I could be just fine never hearing Foreigner, Styx or REO Speedwagon ever again.

Good thing you don't live in Pittsburgh.

The Pittsburgh Steelers' "Renegade": a Brief History

I realized that when I mention "Renegade" in my game recaps, some people might not know exactly what I'm talking about. Here, in relatively brief form, is the lore surrounding the Styx song "Renegade" and the Steelers...

bleacherreport.com

Not to mention it's also Pirates' closer David Bednar's entrance song.

Pulling Mussels From The Shell.

Back when I had a voice that could still hit notes, "Black Coffee In Bed" was one of my go-to karaokes. Wasn't crazy about very early (UK) Squeeze (Cool for Cats, Up the Junction), but the period where they did Pulling Mussels and Black Coffee, they were one of the best bands out there. Much like Elliot Easton of the Cars, Glenn Tillbrook was a fantastic axeman, but pretty much stuck to short solo bursts that fit the song rather than extended solos.

 

[dvegas]

Jorgensen

I was there! Think that was Spring1982, after they had J Giles in late 1981 the week the Centerfold album hit #1

 

[cullaville]

There are no new great rock bands coming out anymore. The new honorees are from hip hop, country etc. It's seriously time to change the name to the Music Hall of Fame and honor the best of all genres. On a side note, it was criminal how long it took them to induct The Steve Miller Band.

Miles Davis on Steve Miller

“I remember one time - it might have been a couple times - at the Fillmore East in 1970, I was opening for this sorry-axx cat named Steve Miller. Steve Miller didn't have his sxxt going for him, so I'm pissed because I got to open for this non-playing mxxxxxxxx just because he had one or two sorry-axx records out. So I would come late and he would have to go on first and then we got there we smoked the mxxxxxxxxg place, everybody dug it.”​

― Miles Davis

 

[tdrink]

If it took YES until 2017 to get in and King Crimson, ELP and Jethro Tull are not in then the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a disgrace,

It was horrible that YES was not inducted while Chris Squire was alive.

Bands like YES until they were elected and ELP, King Crimson and Jethro Tull do not need the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to validate their greatness.

The R and R HOF does not consider prog rock to be a form of rock music despite having “rock” in the description. Hip hop and country are , however.

 

[cullaville]

Loggins before a solo career was a constant on the radio in the early to mid 70’s with Loggins and Messina selling well over 20 million records.

Kenny Loggins played at Jorgensen (1978 or1979) great show

 

[Waquoit]

Miles Davis on Steve Miller...

Miles had a better quote I read in an interview with Rip Torn. Rip said he lived next door to Davis and went over to visit one day. And there he was just sitting in front of the front window looking at all the traffic. Miles says, "Where are all these mothers going?"

 

[Kolumbo]

I was there! Think that was Spring1982, after they had J Giles in late 1981 the week the Centerfold album hit #1

maybe 1985? Unless he was a repeat act. Jefferson Starship also made it there.

 

[Madmannsucks]

Kenny Loggins played at Jorgensen (1978 or1979) great show

I saw Loggins and Messina with Jim Croce opening. Bushnell. March 1973. Surprisingly more of a jam band live than a pop duo.

 

[Samoo]

Foreigner opened for The Rolling Stones for their 1981 tour opener in Philadelphia and got booed off the stage. Personally, I've never been a fan of them.

(For what it's worth, George Thorogood played to huge applause. If I remember correctly, they actually brought him back out after foreigner left to get the crowd pumped up again.)

Hah, I went to that tour in Seattle, Greg Kinn Band instead of Foreigner, J. Geils instead of Thorogood I think.

 

[dvegas]

maybe 1985? Unless he was a repeat act. Jefferson Starship also made it there.

Must have been the ganj....J Giles 2/82 (I was close), Herbie was 10/84. both shows they had songs at the top of the charts (Centerfold/Rock It). Don't recall Starship, wouldn't have cared...

 

[alexd]

Must have been the ganj....J Giles 2/82 (I was close), Herbie was 10/84. both shows they had songs at the top of the charts (Centerfold/Rock It). Don't recall Starship, wouldn't have cared...

Geils was great. They were booked at UConn and UMass that weekend way in advance. Meanwhile became the hottest selling artist in the land but still played both shows right before a sold out MSG gig.

 

[QuickDraw]

One of my favorite movie lines of all time.

I just watched young frankenstein yesterday, lol

 

[Kathy]

The R and R HOF does not consider prog rock to be a form of rock music despite having “rock” in the description. Hip hop and country are , however.

Which is ridiculous. Always been a Prog fan, even current prog bands. How Hip Hop and County get in before Prog is beyond me.

 

[CL82]

Hah, I went to that tour in Seattle, Greg Kinn Band instead of Foreigner, J. Geils instead of Thorogood I think.

I think that was the "Tattoo You" tour. It was a great. Nobody does a large stadium show as well as Jagger. I saw them again in Hartford a couple months later.