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RIP Queen of Soul

That didn't take long... she just went into hospice on Monday.

Amazing talent. Might be best we'll ever see at what she did.

Guapo said:
Queen of Soul and King of Rock both died on August 16th
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I've never heard Robert Johnson called "King of Rock", but I'll go along with that given rock doesn't exist without the blues.
 
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storrsroars said:
That didn't take long... she just went into hospice on Monday.

Amazing talent. Might be best we'll ever see at what she did.



I've never heard Robert Johnson called "King of Rock", but I'll go along with that given rock doesn't exist without the blues.
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I was referring to Elvis dying on August 16th, 1977
 
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Pancreatic cancer... day after she shifts to palliative care... at least it was probably quick

RIP
 
Unfortunately, we're at a point in time where we will be regularly saying goodbye to the musical titans of the 60s and 70s. 20 years from now, most of them will be gone.
 
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A moment I forgot...

Emmys director: "Hey Aretha, got a moment?"
Aretha: "Sure, what's up?"
Emmys director: "Luciano Pavarotti just got sick and can't go on tonight."
Aretha: "Sorry to hear that..."
Emmys director: "You think you could go on and take his place?"
Aretha: "OK. What do you think I should sing, 'Respect' or 'Natural Woman'?"
Emmys director: "Um, neither. It's Luciano's spot so it'll be the operatic 'Nessun Dorma'."
Aretha: "Whatever."

 
storrsroars said:
This should be an interesting thesis... please go ahead and elaborate!
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It's not simple enough?
You're assuming that rock and roll would not have developed on its own.
Sure, rock progressions were based on blues progressions and everybody in early rock was influenced by blues artists. But if blues never existed you don't know where music would have gone. Do you?
 
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MadDogRevival said:
It's not simple enough?
You're assuming that rock and roll would not have developed on its own.
Sure, rock progressions were based on blues progressions and everybody in early rock was influenced by blues artists. But if blues never existed you don't know where music would have gone. Do you?
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I believe you just answered your question via the bolded part above. Music would have gone somewhere else that wasn't rock n roll as we know it.

Maybe without the competition, Texas Swing would've taken over.
 
storrsroars said:
I believe you just answered your question via the bolded part above. Music would have gone somewhere else that wasn't rock n roll as we know it.

Maybe without the competition, Texas Swing would've taken over.
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Yeah it's really not arguable, rock n roll didn't just spontaneously happen.

It's not even some like an ancient myth that is impossible to prove, we can go back and listen to the music, read articles from the time etc and track pretty closely how rock came to be.
 
storrsroars said:
Music would have gone somewhere else that wasn't rock n roll as we know it.
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Sure, and if Columbus had sailed further south Music would have gone somewhere else, as well.
Point is, it's facile and a bit lazy to say "rock would not exist without blues."
You don't know that.
Return to tonic is hardwired as appealing. The progression used in Don't Stop Believing may be hardwired as appealing as well.
 
Guapo said:
It's not even some like an ancient myth that is impossible to prove, we can go back and listen to the music, read articles from the time etc and track pretty closely how rock came to be.
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You're completely missing my point.
I'm not disputing "how rock came to be."
I'm pointing out that rock could have developed through an alternative route. It's unknowable.
Like pyramids in Egypt and in Meso America.
 
MadDogRevival said:
Sure, and if Columbus had sailed further south Music would have gone somewhere else, as well.
Point is, it's facile and a bit lazy to say "rock would not exist without blues."
You don't know that.
Return to tonic is hardwired as appealing. The progression used in Don't Stop Believing may be hardwired as appealing as well.
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It's a silly argument, but I'll just lay this down - without blues, there's no Elvis, Fats Domino, Cliff Richard... and without them no Beatles, no Stones, no Clapton/Mayall/Beck/Hendrix etc. etc. etc. And OMG NO GRATEFUL DEAD!!!!1!!

In short, without blues music at that specific time to bridge the black vs white canyon maybe the whole cultural upheaval of the sixties doesn't happen. Dylan didn't bring it all on by his lonesome. Imagine how dull things would've been if the music industry was based on folk... yuck.

So one could argue the impact of blues > just music charts.
 
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