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Josh Boone, Jake, Travis, Alex, Hilton, just to name a few all developed nicely under Jimmy C. They also didn't look lost as Josh Carlton doesoften. Let's see what year 3 brings but it as of now, he shouldn't be compared to any of those guys under a coach that made big overachievers.
 
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Josh Boone, Jake, Travis, Alex, Hilton, just to name a few all developed nicely under Jimmy C. They also didn't look lost as Josh Carlton doesoften. Let's see what year 3 brings but it as of now, he shouldn't be compared to any of those guys under a coach that made big overachievers.

His jump to year 2 was pretty good no denying that especially on the offensive end. After 2 years he's better than each of those you named offensively if for only in the fact he can get to the hoop with his back to the basket. As you said they all "developed" and as we can see Carlton is in his transition with 2 years left we can only hope we see the same. Josh B great offensive rebounder, tap in specialist - Jake very good passer and really could set a pick - Travis could shoot it from 12-15 - Alex a brute around the basket - Hilton as a soph not a real lot at all yet - Josh C has better post moves than all of them year 2. Defensively he's not there yet and hopefully year 3 brings that into play, a quicker more helpful big man. But reality is he even improved there after year 1 it was nice leap.

Fact is the comparison to those guys isn't that far off as we look at each after year 2. If you're looking at where each finished we can only hope he gets there but for now not a reach to think he can get there or close.
 

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Josh was in his first year under a new coach, and now he's in the first summer when he has tape to review playing under his new coach. Hopefully he'll be a lot less lost next year.
 
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I get that you can’t teach 7’1, but this kid is that tall and isn’t even a big factor on his HS team. I’m sure he’ll block shots but nothing else about his game is college ready at all. I didn’t see the point in reaching for someone whose role Whaley could better fill for the next two seasons.

Hurley and the staff really dropped the ball at C in their first year here, but taking a huge project with a low floor could compound our frontcourt problems before alleviating them. I’d rather strike out then hit into a double play.
 

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I get that you can’t teach 7’1, but this kid is that tall and isn’t even a big factor on his HS team. I’m sure he’ll block shots but nothing else about his game is college ready at all. I didn’t see the point in reaching for someone whose role Whaley could better fill for the next two seasons.

Hurley and the staff really dropped the ball at C in their first year here, but taking a huge project with a low floor could compound our frontcourt problems before alleviating them. I’d rather strike out then hit into a double play.
This was my fear, to have those measurables and be ranked where he was...

Good luck at Oklahoma.
 
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My bet Whaley steps up because this time Hurley will .. play him like he should have this year. Cob was never a player. Whaley will play D in the paint,rebound and block shots. That's all he has to do. He can hedge better than anybody including JC.

Like Rod Sellers thirty years later?...............wouldn't be a bad situation to have.
 
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Not with a man on third and nobody out in a tie game in the bottom of the 9th

Actually, in that situation the other team would be playing the infield in and would be coming home on any ground ball. So any double play in that situation would likely come from a fly ball with the runner being thrown out at the plate. ;)
 

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He'll probably have a career ranging from somewhere between "meh...who?" to "damn, we let that one slip away." And that's just fine. There will be dozens, perhaps hundreds of Issanzas throughout Hurley's tenure. No need to pretend the sky is falling or post-hoc rationalize why Hurley and co. passed.
 
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Josh Boone, Jake, Travis, Alex, Hilton, just to name a few all developed nicely under Jimmy C. They also didn't look lost as Josh Carlton doesoften. Let's see what year 3 brings but it as of now, he shouldn't be compared to any of those guys under a coach that made big overachievers.

Carlton is MILES beyond where Hilton and Knight were at the same age.
 
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Carlton is MILES beyond where Hilton and Knight were at the same age.
That's true but the circumstances were entirely different and I just don't see Carlton turning into them.
 

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That's true but the circumstances were entirely different and I just don't see Carlton turning into them.

We're playing a far weaker schedule, and the rest of our roster is much more talented in relation to the rest of our competition than Hilton and Knight's teams were. We don't need him to turn into them.
 
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That's true but the circumstances were entirely different and I just don't see Carlton turning into them.

The different circumstances are that Carlton is far more skilled than they were at this stage. Knight, in particular, was hot garbage until his junior year.
 
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We're playing a far weaker schedule, and the rest of our roster is much more talented in relation to the rest of our competition than Hilton and Knight's teams were. We don't need him to turn into them.
We're playing a weaker schedule and he's our only option down low which is part of the reason why he's putting up bigger numbers than them. My point was I don't see him becoming as good.as them in the future, no NBA is Carlton's future.


Going to disagree about the talent level competition comment. Knight and Hilton were on some of the best teams in the country, they were always better than the other teams they played.
 

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Going to disagree about the talent level competition comment. Knight and Hilton were on some of the best teams in the country, they were always better than the other teams they played.

I should've phrased this better. I meant to say that our guards/wings are, on the whole, more superior to our competition's guards/wings than they were back in the OBE days. We weren't playing teams as bad as ECU/Tulane back then.
 
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I will never agree. But I do hope Josh is better in year 3.

Well, let's take a look, see if we can't convince you.

As a sophomore, Carlton averaged 9.0 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.8 blocks, 3.1 fouls on .607 shooting, .627 from the line. His /40 numbers were 16.2 points, 11.1 rebounds, 3.2 blocks, 5.5 fouls.

Knight's per game numbers were 2.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 1 block, 2.3 fouls on .439 shooting, 50% from the line. /40 numbers are 8.3 points, 9.9 rebounds, 3.3 blocks, 7.9 fouls.

Armstrong's per game numbers were 2.4 points, 2.8 rebounds, 0.7 blocks, 1.6 fouls, 50% shooting, .388 from the line. /40 numbers were 10.2 points, 12.3 rebounds, 3.0 blocks, 6.9 fouls.

By any reasonable statistical measure, Carlton was, by far, the best player as a sophomore. Why do you feel otherwise?
 

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Well, let's take a look, see if we can't convince you.

As a sophomore, Carlton averaged 9.0 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.8 blocks, 3.1 fouls on .607 shooting, .627 from the line. His /40 numbers were 16.2 points, 11.1 rebounds, 3.2 blocks, 5.5 fouls.

Knight's per game numbers were 2.5 points, 2.9 rebounds, 1 block, 2.3 fouls on .439 shooting, 50% from the line. /40 numbers are 8.3 points, 9.9 rebounds, 3.3 blocks, 7.9 fouls.

Armstrong's per game numbers were 2.4 points, 2.8 rebounds, 0.7 blocks, 1.6 fouls, 50% shooting, .388 from the line. /40 numbers were 10.2 points, 12.3 rebounds, 3.0 blocks, 6.9 fouls.

By any reasonable statistical measure, Carlton was, by far, the best player as a sophomore. Why do you feel otherwise?

Prepare yourself for an avalanche of dubious OBE/AAC claims.
 

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