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So why did we abandon the run and Robinson last few games?
Because without a passing game, defenses have smother the running game. Why then not improve the passing game? For starters that would require reinserting Fagnano as starter. With him they are a passing threat (short and deep). But Mora refuses to admit that will help his team. Seems like Evers is his boy, even though he hurts the offense.
 

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It's a team that's a QB away from 7-1. That's the most frustrating part. Everything else is solid or better. We haven't had skill players like this in forever and we can't use it to our advantage
True. But we are watchable and one lousy non call from maybe being 6-2. Personally I think Fagnano would move the team better, but the brain trust clearly wants to give Evers experience. If they stick with him, people need to adjust expectations about our O and hope Evers can improve his plus consistency. Winning with D is okay too. Not exciting, but ok.
 
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It's a team that's a QB away from 7-1. That's the most frustrating part. Everything else is solid or better. We haven't had skill players like this in forever and we can't use it to our advantage

Start a different QB against WF or Duke and we win one of those and are already bowl eligible.
 
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We won and need just one win for bowl eligibility (second in three years). Why all the negative takes on here? Did you all forgot that four years ago we were the joke of college football?
After that "W" I am thinking not of our schedule but next weeks game and my confidence is NOT there. I want to be surprised but where we thought we might have easier games - I fear we have no EASY games and may have some impossible games. I like to look at each game as it comes - with that I look to the next one. What in this Rice game gives you confidence in the Georgia State game? Why? We are only as good as our last game! I don't see the practices - I don't study the game film. I do trust our coaches. And I trust Coach Mora when he is NOT happy with our offense. What he said in the interview - he said because kicking your offense when they didn't play well - wont play well in the media either. They don't need tough love. They need to grow - "a lot". Specifically the QB!
 
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We won and need just one win for bowl eligibility (second in three years). Why all the negative takes on here? Did you all forgot that four years ago we were the joke of college football?
Based on the way the team played earlier, it's obvious the expectations were raised. We can have negative takes on team play and maybe certain players while also being happy with the record.
I personally think there's a lot riding on this season. The Big XII may be watching and we need to put our best foot forward every game. I, and many others, believe Fagnano deserves a shot at being that foot.
 
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I'm okay with a defensive win and a big play or two on offense. This D is a lot of fun to watch! Great to have Pryce Yates joining the fun and putting on the heat all day.

Not okay with an offense that has become frustratingly disjointed and very easy to scheme against. Partly the o-line being banged up, but mostly we don't have a competent passing game. Apparently commitments have been made and we're stuck with the results of bringing in a guy who is either not ready or not the answer at QB. And the coaches unwillingness to make a change is hurting the team. The Welliver era can't come soon enough.
 

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I guess you weren’t watching our defense. Try it, you might like it.
I loved the D today. The offense, except for a couple plays, was as bad as the D was good. Our 1st half offense was putrid. At one point we were averaging .9 yards per carry. That's unwatchable. I also remember seeing NE was 3/12 at some point. You must admit the O was tough to watch.
 
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Yeah I came up for the game from Atlanta and thst first half was brutal. I'm not sold on Evers as a starting QB. I really wish we saw Fagnano in but I guess we will live and die with Evers as QB. Rice might of beat us if they had their starting QB. Ugly win but I will take it.
We may have to live with Evers but some of those throws are high mortality for the receivers. Late and high or behind is a bad combination. And he can only lock in on one guy which makes it more frustrating.
 

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I loved the D today. The offense, except for a couple plays, was as bad as the D was good. Our 1st half offense was putrid. At one point we were averaging .9 yards per carry. That's unwatchable. I also remember seeing NE was 3/12 at some point. You must admit the O was tough to watch.
If people go in thinking our O will suddenly be exciting, good luck. But 17 points in a half does count. The D is our strength. Obviously we all want more of a better O, but after years of dreck on the D side, I would rather win 3-0 than lose 40-35. Fans have to decide if they want Ws or a lot of scoring. We still might put up a bunch of points against some of our remaining opponents, but if we don’t and win anyway, big deal.
 
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Bell was rightfully & visibly pissed on the post route. It was a surefire TD. He beat his man and there was no one close to him. It was an easy throw that HS QBs make every Friday night
Yup. Saw that and thought he must have been angry at being held early in his route and had not gotten a PI call. But the pass had not been anywhere close to him. And frustration with his QB was the other possibility.
 
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I loved the D today. The offense, except for a couple plays, was as bad as the D was good. Our 1st half offense was putrid. At one point we were averaging .9 yards per carry. That's unwatchable. I also remember seeing NE was 3/12 at some point. You must admit the O was tough to watch.
Yup I understand why the original Phillanaire poster said he needed to take a shower after the game. They won that game with great D and some timely rushing attack in the 2nd half. They won that game despite Evers, not because of him.
 
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True. But we are watchable and one lousy non call from maybe being 6-2. Personally I think Fagnano would move the team better, but the brain trust clearly wants to give Evers experience. If they stick with him, people need to adjust expectations about our O and hope Evers can improve his plus consistency. Winning with D is okay too. Not exciting, but ok.
Hope is not a plan.
 
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If people go in thinking our O will suddenly be exciting, good luck. But 17 points in a half does count. The D is our strength. Obviously we all want more of a better O, but after years of dreck on the D side, I would rather win 3-0 than lose 40-35. Fans have to decide if they want Ws or a lot of scoring. We still might put up a bunch of points against some of our remaining opponents, but if we don’t and win anyway, big deal.
I love the false choices.
 

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If people go in thinking our O will suddenly be exciting, good luck. But 17 points in a half does count. The D is our strength. Obviously we all want more of a better O, but after years of dreck on the D side, I would rather win 3-0 than lose 40-35. Fans have to decide if they want Ws or a lot of scoring. We still might put up a bunch of points against some of our remaining opponents, but if we don’t and win anyway, big deal.
You know we want Ws, but there's no reason we can't expect an adequate offense. You can't win on D alone.
 
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If people go in thinking our O will suddenly be exciting, good luck. But 17 points in a half does count. The D is our strength. Obviously we all want more of a better O, but after years of dreck on the D side, I would rather win 3-0 than lose 40-35. Fans have to decide if they want Ws or a lot of scoring. We still might put up a bunch of points against some of our remaining opponents, but if we don’t and win anyway, big deal.
Scoring a lot and winning are not mutually exclusive. In fact they are highly correlated.
 

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Scoring a lot and winning are not mutually exclusive. In fact they are highly correlated.
Yes. But winning with D is still winning. I’m pretty sure scoring more points than the other team correlates precisely with winning. I’m a NY Giant fan. I would take a 7-3 win any day.
 

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I haven’t read all of the posts..so forgive me for posting a repititive post.

I have been a supporter of developing Evers…and maybe he isn’t showing what he can do because he is banged up. But…he can’t throw well or run well. Mora seems to keep getting dual threat quarterbacks that are uni-threat. Turner…slow…Roberson…slow…and so far..Evers is slow.

If Evers can’t run the ball…play Fagnano…i get that he is here only this year…but Mora owes it to the team to try to win as many games this year as possible. And a banged up Evers isn’t the answer.

Time to focus on winning games and not developing the NIL guy.
 
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