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Replacing a Legend and Recovering

intlzncster said:
What is the upside, as opposed to waiting? It's not going to magically change the team's results. No one is coming in midseason to coach either. The only thing it does is give us a much higher probability of losing recruits and current players on the roster. That's it.

You need somebody in place quickly to go after kids.
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I am not a fan of KO’s coaching. But I wonder how this board would be today if Whalley has made a few foul shots or that 11 seconds in bound play came out differently (arguably there was no optional design understood by the inbounder like having a few guys take off down court). I think a mid season change is a bad idea.

The team has shown signs of life the last two games and yesterday was far from the worst they’ve looked. Two games in a row. A minor success. Maybe the rotation is being set. The assist rate yesterday was a big step forward if it can be sustained.

However, if the team reverts to its frequent lapses in intensity and team play, a hallmark of KO’s tenure, which is my major problem with him although not my only problem, it has nothing to do with injuries or youth or departures. Firing him at season’s end should be a no-brainer, buyout notwithstanding, and losing commitments and players and transfers a chance that will have to be taken. I hope the increased intensity and the couple of other positives recently start to produce wins and more power to KO if it does. I’m not sold, but hopeful.
 
upstater said:
If a coach screws his assistant's wife in public, has an assistant hire hookers for recruits, then is caught on tape acknowledging many thousands of dollars of payments to recruits, you fire him yesterday.

Coaches are not stupid. They know there's a difference between that and losing games. Louisville is not going to be able to hire after this. You know that, I know that. They'll be lucky if Padgett sticks around.
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They will get past their troubles before we get out of our hole. You know that too. See Penn State.
 
Stinger92860 said:
They will get past their troubles before we get out of our hole. You know that too. See Penn State.
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Just what are you arguing here anyway? We should fire Ollie now and be like Louisville?
 
upstater said:
Just what are you arguing here anyway? We should fire Ollie now and be like Louisville?
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What I am saying is that if these were stocks, I'm selling UConn and buying Ville. We are in a bad spot and for them the issues will be a bump in the road.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
What benefit comes from firing Ollie midseason? What happens when players graduate, leave for the NBA, or transfer at the end of the season? Or decide they won’t play if Ollie doesn’t finish this season? What happens when they fire Ollie and don’t have a coach waiting? What happens to the recruits coming in?
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There is a well documented phenomena where many people in a serious crisis just stay put and die because they are more afraid of the unknown than the known (even if it will kill them). It's like people on the Titanic who refused to abandon ship fearing the ocean life rafts more than leaving the boat. These types of "the sky will fall if we change" is that phenomena. Most people are programmed to resist change because in ordinary circumstances change means increased risk. But, the brain doesn't process risk well outside of normative situations and often will even deny an unusual event is occurring, seeking an explanation to stay within the comfortable norm (I.e., the billowing smoke is just the restaurant downstairs, not a fire).

KO is a four alarm fire and like a four alarm fire, it's time to move away from the danger.
 
BlueDogs said:
There is a well documented phenomena where many people in a serious crisis just stay put and die because they are more afraid of the unknown than the known (even if it will kill them). It's like people on the Titanic who refused to abandon ship fearing the ocean life rafts more than leaving the boat. These types of "the sky will fall if we change" is that phenomena. Most people are programmed to resist change because in ordinary circumstances change means increased risk. But, the brain doesn't process risk well outside of normative situations and often will even deny an unusual event is occurring, seeking an explanation to stay within the comfortable norm (I.e., the billowing smoke is just the restaurant downstairs, not a fire).

KO is a four alarm fire and like a four alarm fire, it's time to move away from the danger.
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So we are all going to die if Ollie is not fired mid-season?

Got it.
 
Stinger92860 said:
What I am saying is that if these were stocks, I'm selling UConn and buying Ville. We are in a bad spot and for them the issues will be a bump in the road.
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Yes, but we're talking about Ollie being fired midseason, not the AAC. Louisville is irrelevant in this case.
 
Just look at the post game quotes from Ollie, he checked out a while ago...
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8893 said:
So we are all going to die if Ollie is not fired mid-season?

Got it.
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It's a useful way of illustrating the psychology of fear of change which becomes greatly magnified when folks are heavily invested in something they greatly value and have come to expect as the norm.
 
UCweCONN said:
Awe, come on. He deserves next season to turn it around. Gilbert's out, their young, he deserves it, he's one of ours, he won a national title, we'll lose recruits. Did I miss any excuses?
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Other than the financial angle, and your misunderstanding of what an excuse is, no.
Also, "awe" + "their" = ouch.
 
Just saying, we can afford Ollie's buyout, and pay top dollar for his replacement, if we just go ahead and put the football program out of its misery

 
socal613ws said:
Not trying to stir any pot, just want to know who you guys would love to see takeover this program?
I think Dan Hurley makes the most sense, he has the east coast ties and what he's done at Rhode Island is pretty amazing. The man has an edge to him that has lacked since Calhoun left.
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Really!

No one will want to come here! we offer nothing! What we have is good enough! If we get rid of Ollie the program will just continue to spiral, He will get it right .
Calhoun never had a year like last year and always had guys who played with each other year to year. Please basically he put together a new team .Give it time , the program is down but not out. Any changes now will doom the program and any recruits signed. Im confident we have the best option already. Remember Uconn is not a step up for most coaches anymnore the conference is a step down.

Football has doomed us and continues to do so. We finally have an offense and maybe a future and the guy leaves for a team in AAC. How do allow any coach to go to a team in the same conference! Football is a joke!

Football and the administration is 90% the blame for the state of Uconn mens basketball.
 
ARIDE said:
Really!

No one will want to come here! we offer nothing! What we have is good enough! If we get rid of Ollie the program will just continue to spiral, He will get it right .
Calhoun never had a year like last year and always had guys who played with each other year to year. Please basically he put together a new team .Give it time , the program is down but not out. Any changes now will doom the program and any recruits signed. Im confident we have the best option already. Remember Uconn is not a step up for most coaches anymnore the conference is a step down.

Football has doomed us and continues to do so. We finally have an offense and maybe a future and the guy leaves for a team in AAC. How do allow any coach to go to a team in the same conference! Football is a joke!

Football and the administration is 90% the blame for the state of Uconn mens basketball.
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This is a whole lot of wrong.
 
Please stop with the redundancy. Its annoying. What about Rhett Lashlee to SMU. That's today's headline. Sure feels like the end in Storrs. God, if DB ever gets the Auburn job, he will leave with a department in much worse shape than when he arrived.
 
The Viking said:
You will never write headlines for a newspaper based on this thread title, I can assure you that
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I was expecting a post where AD David Benedict just started following him on Twitter and that Dan Hurley bought a house in Mansfield
 
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ARIDE said:
Really!

No one will want to come here! we offer nothing! What we have is good enough! If we get rid of Ollie the program will just continue to spiral, He will get it right .
Calhoun never had a year like last year and always had guys who played with each other year to year. Please basically he put together a new team .Give it time , the program is down but not out. Any changes now will doom the program and any recruits signed. Im confident we have the best option already. Remember Uconn is not a step up for most coaches anymnore the conference is a step down.

Football has doomed us and continues to do so. We finally have an offense and maybe a future and the guy leaves for a team in AAC. How do allow any coach to go to a team in the same conference! Football is a joke!

Football and the administration is 90% the blame for the state of Uconn mens basketball.
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I am sure there were plenty of UWash fans last year that wanted to keep Romar around and were scared of player turnover and losing their great recruiting class. They clearly made the right move as Mike Hopkins has taken the little talent that stayed at UWash and made them into a respectable team this year. Ollie is a terrible head coach just as Romar is a terrible head coach.
 
No, instead, we should keep our version of Mike Davis/Josh Pastner/etc.!
 
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