Replacing a Legend and Recovering

[Letsgohuskies11]

"Not to stir the pot," just asking a board immediately after a loss if they'd accept a different coach

 

[Stinger92860]

We should go after Bob Hurley.

 

[Whtdmd]

Not trying to stir any pot, just want to know who you guys would love to see takeover this program?
I think Dan Hurley makes the most sense, he has the east coast ties and what he's done at Rhode Island is pretty amazing. The man has an edge to him that has lacked since Calhoun left.

He is a mediocre coach who can't recruit in the northeast n NY metro area. This despite the connections that he no longer has. If he is so good, why has he not won anything in 8 yrs in two weak conferences? Why has the local prep coaches not push players toward URI? The fact is that he has not develop any players in his 8 yrs

 

[AdamaNation]

Not happening. Let it go. He is making his own kingdom. No one wants to play in someone else’s garden anymore more. Thank Calhoun for that. If you can make your own program you can make your own rules. Same reason bobby ain’t going to duke as long as asu keeps improving.

 

[Athlete94]

No thanks on Hurley.. pass

 

[intlzncster]

It's absolutely killing Louisville.

That wasn't about results though. They were dying to keep those guys. Had no choice.

If a coach screws his assistant's wife in public, has an assistant hire hookers for recruits,

Actually, at Louisville, you keep on paying him. Everybody's gonna get extensions!

then is caught on tape acknowledging many thousands of dollars of payments to recruits,

Then you fire him.

 

[intlzncster]

There is a well documented phenomena where many people in a serious crisis just stay put and die because they are more afraid of the unknown than the known (even if it will kill them). It's like people on the Titanic who refused to abandon ship fearing the ocean life rafts more than leaving the boat. These types of "the sky will fall if we change" is that phenomena. Most people are programmed to resist change because in ordinary circumstances change means increased risk. But, the brain doesn't process risk well outside of normative situations and often will even deny an unusual event is occurring, seeking an explanation to stay within the comfortable norm (I.e., the billowing smoke is just the restaurant downstairs, not a fire).

KO is a four alarm fire and like a four alarm fire, it's time to move away from the danger.

The choice between letting Ollie go now vs end of season is nothing like that though. Ther are very, very few positives from letting him go now. There are many more very important positives from letting him go later.

Letting him go later is the smart thing to do. Let's do the smart thing.

 

[Hi-Low]

Enough is enough.......with goofy "celebrating" and posing by Jalen......a layup with about 1 minute left in regulation to put us up 3 & he acts like it's a big accomplishment.

 

[8893]

Enough is enough..with goofy "celebrating" and posing by Jalen.a layup with about 1 minute left in regulation to put us up 3 & he acts like it's a big accomplishment.

What a cool handshake with him and Vital though, huh?

 

[Kemba429]

Am i the only one that thought they actually played pretty well? The defense wasnt there obviously, but the offense looked like a brand new team.

 

[DMIL]

The effort was far better than what we've seen earlier this season (for a game following a decent effort against a better team) but that is the only positive.

A couple of points that cost us:

Although we played a far better team game offensively tonight than we have in the past there still were a number of lapses (too many to list) where we reverted to stupid play. If we avoid those lapses, we a) never would have needed to recover from a nine point second half deficit and would have built a sufficient lead to withstand a very late comeback or b) we would have been able to close the game out in regulation if we hadn't avoided the nine point deficit or c) we would have been able to close out the first overtime if we hadn't avoided the lapses referenced in (a) or (b) or d) we wouldn't have fallen behind by two possessions in the second overtime.

Our best offensive lineup tonight included a player (Anderson) the opponent knows is no threat to score. This makes it considerably easier to defend the three primary scorers (Adams, Larrier, Vital).

The perimeter defense still was slow to react far too often, even with the handful of quality stretches of defense. Add to this that we could have fouled the dribbler (who passed the ball for the game tying three) with under five seconds remaining and no possibility for him to get a shot off, giving Tulsa only the hope of a make with a miss then a put back to extend the game.

The low hoops IQ (both offensively and defensively), lack of quality depth in the backcourt and shortage of scorers is all on the head coach and his staff. A win tonight would not have been anything monumental. It would merely have been a small step in the right direction, with many, many more needed over the next couple of months.

Like most of this post however it's not all on Ollie. The shooters, depth transferred out. Our main PG has been injured the last 2 years. Better IQ guys are committed for 2018. We get Larrier, Adams back next year along with Sid Wilson, Gilbert and the returning Freshman along with the incoming class then I think this will be something worth waiting for in 2018.

 

[NutmegDog]

Am i the only one that thought they actually played pretty well? The defense wasnt there obviously, but the offense looked like a brand new team.

Except for the in-bounding the ball part. That looked pretty much the same.

 

[Kemba429]

Except for the in-bounding the ball part. That looked pretty much the same.

18 assists 9 from Jalen? Shooting close to 45%? 7 turnovers in a 2 overtime game?

 

[superjohn]

Except for the in-bounding the ball part. That looked pretty much the same.

Shocking we can't inbound the ball with Ollie's amazing out of bounds plays.

 

[intlzncster]

Like most of this post however it's not all on Ollie. The shooters, depth transferred out. Our main PG has been injured the last 2 years. Better IQ guys are committed for 2018. We get Larrier, Adams back next year along with Sid Wilson, Gilbert and the returning Freshman along with the incoming class then I think this will be something worth waiting for in 2018.

Don't count on Larrier back next year. He'll go play in the G League, and I suspect do well. Just to put an arbitrary number on it, I'm guessing a 95% chance of leaving.

Adams, idk what his goals are. Maybe that depends on coaching staff.

And Gilbert, no one should realistically count on him contributing anything meaningful. Yes, he could come back and be good at some point. But you can't bank on that at all. Especially next year.

Also, all of this might go out the window if UCONN has a new coaching staff.

 

[UConnDan97]

18 assists 9 from Jalen? Shooting close to 45%? 7 turnovers in a 2 overtime game?

I love that you are trying to use real data to support the fact that they played better. They obviously did play better to anyone that is truly giving an impartial look at last night. But some folks won't acknowledge the improvement, even if they believe it to be true...

 

[HuskyHawk]

Not trying to stir any pot, just want to know who you guys would love to see takeover this program?
I think Dan Hurley makes the most sense, he has the east coast ties and what he's done at Rhode Island is pretty amazing. The man has an edge to him that has lacked since Calhoun left.

How is the snow down in Kingston Dan?

 

[Doctor Hoop]

We should go after Bob Hurley.

I'd rather go after Elizabeth Hurley.

 

[UconnFanDC]

If we do, go after the current Butler coach. He has a lil bit of Brad Stevens in him.

 

[LIuconn]

I was expecting a link in the OP. Not a good subject title

 

[Matt1010]

If we do, go after the current Butler coach. He has a lil bit of Brad Stevens in him.

No thanks, we need someone who has more than a year and a half of head coaching experience.

 

[LIuconn]

I haven't seen them but If he's good he's good, and we should get him

 

[Matrim55]

I haven't seen them but If he's good he's good, and we should get him

After two years, Kevin Ollie was the hottest young coach in America with as many national championships as Jim Boeheim or Tom Izzo. How's he doing after six?

We need somebody with a track record, not "potential."

 

[Tuna]

Not trying to stir any pot, just want to know who you guys would love to see takeover this program?
I think Dan Hurley makes the most sense, he has the east coast ties and what he's done at Rhode Island is pretty amazing. The man has an edge to him that has lacked since Calhoun left.

Not sure what is so amazing. The A10 is not as strong as they were before the Big East shakeup which has helped his overall record. He still hasn't had one season with single digit losses and the A10 has produced at least 2 teams with single digit losses every year since he's been there.

 

[LIuconn]

I want someone with a couple inbounds plays, who's team's look good after timeouts and can run a backdoor cut for an easy lob or layup. That too much?