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I think JB & JC are friends. To say otherwise makes Calhoun look sad.
 
jibsey said:
Do you believe K's line as they shook hands "I was really happy for him" ? Who does he think he is, that fellow in the bible?
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Well, maybe not that line but I think he respects Calhoun. He didn't discount our victory in 99 like so many did. And if I have the yrar right, his immediate reaction to the loss was to comfort one of his distraught players.
 
David 76 said:
I think JB & JC are friends. To say otherwise makes Calhoun look sad.
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I think they were friends. Not so sure they are anymore. JB seems to have been less than gracious in recent years. Just my impression, could be wrong.
 
Fishy said:
Be careful with that one.

I suspect it will be available for replay on their site.
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It isn't currently.
 
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David 76 said:
I think JB & JC are friends. To say otherwise makes Calhoun look sad.
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It was a mistake to express my opinion about the JC - JB relationship in public. That's a personal situation between those two even if I'm correct. That's a totally different situation than Jeff Jacobs which I will still offer criticism to the way he approaches JC. My apologies to my wife, Jim Boeheim and this forum
 
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Danzz said:
Jacobs was one of the few reporters who had the nerve to challenge JC. I may not agree with everything he wrote but coaches are control freaks and reporters like Jacobs provide a needed balance.
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I agree with you up to a point. It's important to keep people in check in many situations and Jeff took that position.

It is one thing to try to call out someone when they are wrong. It is another thing to retaliate. I feel Jeff has made it his mission to destroy JC's reputation.

Case in point. The article he wrote regarding UNC. There was absolutely no reason to headline the article with "UConn got what it deserved regarding the APR". Why? Because in the body of his column he admits that the retroactive punishment was wrong. If it was wrong then UConn should not have received that punishment and Jeff should have omitted that part of the headline.

Many people do not read things thoroughly especially if the subject isn't passionate for them. And even among those who do, there probably is a group that didn't put that association together because it totaled two sentences in an entire article. Still others, who may have seen the inconsistency, may not have weighed it as important. I do.

Yes UConn took the hit in the title. But rightly or wrongly JC is the figurehead of this issue. I'm connecting the dots and the picture I get from all this is JJ knows what he is doing and most people are unaware of his process. Therefore, I'm doing exactly what you admire about Jeff. I'm standing up against his actions to provide a needed balance.
 
fleudslipcon said:
The article JJ wrote about the UNC infractions tells me more about JJ's real feelings regarding JC than anything I'm getting from this special. Of course I haven't seen the special yet. I'm just processing what people are writing in this thread.

With regards to Boeheim, my statement reflects what my wife has picked up observing his interaction with JC. She's not a Cuse hater. But every time she sees Boeheim she feels strongly that the relationship between him and JC is one in which JC genuinely likes JB but the friendship is not reciprocated. Furthermore JB actually dislikes JC. I usually trust the feminine instinct regarding the nature of people far more than what dudes think. And in this particular instance, because she's indifferent to Syracuse or Boeheims coaching, I feel she's unbiased with this feeling.

We all know people who talk others up when they're in the presence of that person but love putting them down in other situations. That's JJ's and JB's modus operandi with JC. JC is aware of who JJ is but not JB.
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I think Boeheim's merely a miserable bastard. He's most comfortable wallowing in misery - that's why his public interactions with JC (and most everyone else) seem insincere/contrived.

As for Jacobs, his role requires controversy to be successful. And I think he intentionally poked at JC to provoke controversial reactions. That's why its difficult for me to respect JJ's work.
 
RMoore1999 said:
I think Boeheim's merely a miserable bastard. He's most comfortable wallowing in misery - that's why his public interactions with JC (and most everyone else) seem insincere/contrived.

As for Jacobs, his role requires controversy to be successful. And I think he intentionally poked at JC to provoke controversial reactions. That's why its difficult for me to respect JJ's work.
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I made statements about both JB and JJ following the one you are quoting. I've made a mistake expressing my opinion regarding JB's relationship with JC. Your point has validity.

Regarding JJ, I think my follow up post expresses my position. I don't think his process is just pandering. There is a quality about it that makes me think there is more going on than trying to stir up viewership.
 
Hoophound said:
I think they were friends. Not so sure they are anymore. JB seems to have been less than gracious in recent years. Just my impression, could be wrong.
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Ya think maybe 3-1 for Calhoun salted JB's "friendship" a bit.
 
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fleudslipcon said:
It was a mistake to express my opinion about the JC - JB relationship in public. That's a personal situation between those two even if I'm correct. That's a totally different situation than Jeff Jacobs which I will still offer criticism to the way he approaches JC. My apologies to my wife, Jim Boeheim and this forum
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Disagree, Fleud. My gut tells me that pretty much the same thing. It's a valid thing to post and you did label it as opinion.
 
RMoore1999 said:
I think Boeheim's merely a miserable bastard. He's most comfortable wallowing in misery - that's why his public interactions with JC (and most everyone else) seem insincere/contrived.
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Nah, he's not bad.

I don't think he particularly enjoys dealing the media at this point in his career, but he's a normal, pleasant human being otherwise.

He's also one of the more popular coaches among his peers.
 
CL82 said:
Disagree, Fleud. My gut tells me that pretty much the same thing. It's a valid thing to post and you did label it as opinion.
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I stand pat with my impression. But in discussing it with my wife, she felt my public expression boarders on gossip. I give her the nod on this one. It's a personal relationship between two people as opposed to the public stuff we observe from Jacobs. Since I abhor gossip, I decided to express my apology. If things change, and the relationship between the two men becomes a public issue, I might decide to rejoin the discussion.
 
Jacobs is pretty good at what he does. That includes being contoversial. He is also a self-righteous ass with a huge ego.
JC is legendary at what he does. Big ego and a chip on his shoulder when it pertains to his program.

I don't see how they don't have problems. One has to show he has the chaps to go after a local demi-god. The other only knows one way to confront being challenged.
I love that JC out-classed him with the phone call.
 
While inserting pins in my Bob Diaco voodoo doll this morning, I recalled this show's reminder of Calhoun's 9-19 record during his first season as head coach here, and the fact that he briefly considered quitting and giving up on coaching altogether after that season. Too often I fail to remember his first season--and losing to Yale.

I liked the Diaco hire but I've come to think that he may simply be nuts and not very smart. But then I remember Calhoun's inauspicious start here and I think maybe I need to be more patient. I never thought Calhoun wasn't smart though. He always seemed smart enough to be realistic, and I think that is where Diaco is losing me--he doesn't seem to be in touch with reality.
 
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Let's leave the door open. He may just be a lot more like KO (beyond KO) than JC, Deserves more time.
 
8893 said:
While inserting pins in my Bob Diaco voodoo doll this morning, I recalled this show's reminder of Calhoun's 9-19 record during his first season as head coach here, and the fact that he briefly considered quitting and giving up on coaching altogether after that season. Too often I fail to remember his first season--and losing to Yale.

I liked the Diaco hire but I've come to think that he may simply be nuts and not very smart. But then I remember Calhoun's inauspicious start here and I think maybe I need to be more patient. I never thought Calhoun wasn't smart though. He always seemed smart enough to be realistic, and I think that is where Diaco is losing me--he doesn't seem to be in touch with reality.
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Ollie wasn't in touch with reality when he took the team to ff location after losing to Houston and smu
 
sdhusky said:
Ollie wasn't in touch with reality when he took the team to ff location after losing to Houston and smu
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Agree totally. I just thought of that too, and I definitely scoffed at the time, thinking KO had lost his mind.
 
8893 said:
Agree totally. I just thought of that too, and I definitely scoffed at the time, thinking KO had lost his mind.
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What is reality? I still don't believe we won numbers three and four and question whether I, and members of this forum, are Neo before Morpheus changed reality. Maybe KO is Morpheus, and our outlook after Houston and SMU is the reality most of us are stuck in. It took KO climbing the steps of a twenty story building, jumping, and surviving with no injury to question things.
 
8893 said:
Agree totally. I just thought of that too, and I definitely scoffed at the time, thinking KO had lost his mind.
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When it works, you're a genius. When it doesn't, you're a lunatic. c'est la vie
 
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8893 said:
While inserting pins in my Bob Diaco voodoo doll this morning, I recalled this show's reminder of Calhoun's 9-19 record during his first season as head coach here, and the fact that he briefly considered quitting and giving up on coaching altogether after that season. Too often I fail to remember his first season--and losing to Yale.

I liked the Diaco hire but I've come to think that he may simply be nuts and not very smart. But then I remember Calhoun's inauspicious start here and I think maybe I need to be more patient. I never thought Calhoun wasn't smart though. He always seemed smart enough to be realistic, and I think that is where Diaco is losing me--he doesn't seem to be in touch with reality.
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For the remainder of this year, Diaco has my support so long as it looks like the players are still buying in (which it does). We'll know by the end of game 2 next year whether the first year was an adjustment period or whether we have a complete dumpster fire on our hands again.
 
He's got them actually playing coherent football, which is a huge step up from the beginning of the year. It's a bad roster. They're going to lose games.
 
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