Refs jobbed UConn tonight. Disgraceful. | Page 4 | The Boneyard

Refs jobbed UConn tonight. Disgraceful.

Status
Not open for further replies.

willie99

Loving life & enjoying the ride, despite the bumps
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
6,949
Reaction Score
20,841
blame nolan for being useless.
blame ollie for sitting in his recliner, all game long.
blame brimah for not being able to rebound.
blame samuel for not being able to dribble a basketball.
blame the entire team's lack of defense and boxing out.

don't freakin blame the refs.
only losers find excuses where there aren't any.

sure the refs weren't great but we lose regardless


you obviously know hoops (not), and your fellow hater likes your post (how fitting). Two spoiled bandwagon jumpers (actually, your comrade is not a bandwagon jumper, not sure how he survived the Perno years, but you are)

I might suggest that if Brimah isn't limited to 9 minutes, in large part because of ridiculous calls, the outcome could have been different. The game was close and the outcome in doubt until about the 8 minute mark, and we're a team that can't afford to lose AB

you're nothing about UConn, nothing, you're a flaming troll

and you obviously don't understand game flow either, so please don't talk hoop strategy with us

you're so damn ridiculous and silly, you actually think you're a respectful poster too
 

willie99

Loving life & enjoying the ride, despite the bumps
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
6,949
Reaction Score
20,841
5 fouls in 9 minutes, and it's not AB's fault

sorry, that's a game changer, haters going to have to deal with it
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
29,325
Reaction Score
46,516
yes the rebounding differential is huge
BUT go back and rewatch some of the Offensive rebounds they got- ball bouncing their way, at least 7 over the backs, at least 5 times the Stanford cro magnum pushed or held on lower back of UConn players (KF twice on consecutive plays). ive been going back to see how they got all those and my son and I are amazed

Exactly.
 
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
29,325
Reaction Score
46,516
It doesn't work like football, where officials are assigned a single league. Officials work more than one league, usually a region. One of the guys working the game last night worked the UConn-Tulsa game too. They weren't "Pac 12" officials. Most guys work both P5 and non-p5 leagues.

Plus, usually the contract signed by the teams will stipulate which team gets to bring officials. Remember the Arizona game at Gampel in the 2001 season? The officials were all from the western part of the country and worked mainly Pac and WAC games and when UConn went back there in 02, they were guys who mostly worked BE and A10 games.

The thing is, the conferences with the most money are also going to be destination spots for the referees. We just saw one ref blackballed by the ACC. That has to hurt his pocketbook.

Getting paid is important to these refs.
 
Joined
Aug 21, 2011
Messages
3,945
Reaction Score
18,482
Last post on this. Had some time to reflect. Yes the reffing was bad but I still stand by my premise that lack of rebounding did them.

From the post game..

"They got 18 offensive rebounds, and that's unacceptable from a UConn team," coach Kevin Ollie said. "It's an embarrassment. We've got to fix it, rectify it. To get outrebounded by 24, that just comes down to toughness. You've got to want to hit somebody, commit to hit, and we just aren't doing that right now."
Stefan Nastic, a 6-foot-11, 245-pound, fifth-year senior, had 12 points and 13 rebounds. Anthony Brown, also a fifth-year senior, had 18 and nine, and Rosco Allen had seven points and 13 rebounds. Stanford also had the touch from outside on its home court, making 10 of 22 three-point shots. Chasson Randle, burning UConn for the second year in a row, made seven threes and scored 23 points.

Of course, Stanford had so many second chances, it rarely mattered when it missed. UConn did not get an offensive rebound in the first half, and ended with four — to Stanford's 18. Although there was some grumbling about the officiating, UConn, which outrebounded its first 15 opponents 35.5 to 31.8 per game, generally blamed itself for the beating it took.

"We played kind of timid today," said Brimah, who was limited to nine minutes, seven points and one rebound. "They beat us on the boards. We've got to play better than that. We have to be tough."
 

Bonehead

'Ollie North of the Cesspool'
Joined
Sep 1, 2013
Messages
9,360
Reaction Score
8,261
BB posters: excuses are like arm pits


In the Bahamas it was double rims, slippery floor, refs and an open door allowing the sea breezes into the arena.


Has there ever been a loss this year that was just on the teams and not contributed by some other force??
 
Joined
Nov 18, 2012
Messages
3,472
Reaction Score
8,610
Were the refs atrocious? Absolutely.
Was that the reason UConn lost? No.

As has been pointed out ad nauseam it was rebounding and lack of effort/toughness. You cannot get killed on the offensive boards like UConn did last night, unacceptable. The only reason for that is lack of effort and aggression. No one was boxing out or fighting for rebounds but Stanford players were fighting for boards. Stanford wanted this game more than UConn.

Turnovers, rebounding, and lack of aggression lost this game. Calhoun would have strangled someone if a team of his got out rebounded like last night and only got to the line 5 times. UConn fell in love with jump shooting no one attacked the rim consistently or forced action to get the refs to make calls. Stanford did those things and got whistles albeit some home friendly calls.

Brimah got worked by a stronger more seasoned player. He was constantly pinning Brimah in spots Brimah was trying to push him out of being. Problem is Brimah is not strong enough yet and uses his hands in the opponents back. Unfortunately that's a foul and Brimah hasn't learned to not do it. He does it every game and it's all because he isn't strong enough to keep opposing players from getting to a favorable spot on the block. There was 1 phantom call and it wasn't his 5th. If he kept his hands straight up he doesn't get called for his 5th but his arms started leaning over the top of kristic or whatever his name was. Yes Brimah got all ball but 9/10 times by not keeping your arms vertical you will get called for a foul.

Stanford was crashing the boards while uconn was just watching. No one was searching for anyone to box out or hit. They weren't getting in proper rebounding positions meanwhile Stanford was doing those things while sending and extra body to the boards.

boatright is starting to look defeated. He needs to refocus and get back to being his confident self. He is the leader and without him this team will go nowhere. This team is going to have to look in the mirror, come together, fix their flaws and start playing team basketball for each other in order to fix the current issues.

The positive is Omar, Purvis and Cassell all played fairly well and they shot the 3 well. The season is not lost yet. There is still hope and I believe KO and the staff will do things that will get this team to meet their potential.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
6,050
Reaction Score
19,068
Skiblets said:
Last post on this. Had some time to reflect. Yes the reffing was bad but I still stand by my premise that lack of rebounding did them. From the post game.. "They got 18 offensive rebounds, and that's unacceptable from a UConn team," coach Kevin Ollie said. "It's an embarrassment. We've got to fix it, rectify it. To get outrebounded by 24, that just comes down to toughness. You've got to want to hit somebody, commit to hit, and we just aren't doing that right now." Stefan Nastic, a 6-foot-11, 245-pound, fifth-year senior, had 12 points and 13 rebounds. Anthony Brown, also a fifth-year senior, had 18 and nine, and Rosco Allen had seven points and 13 rebounds. Stanford also had the touch from outside on its home court, making 10 of 22 three-point shots. Chasson Randle, burning UConn for the second year in a row, made seven threes and scored 23 points. Of course, Stanford had so many second chances, it rarely mattered when it missed. UConn did not get an offensive rebound in the first half, and ended with four — to Stanford's 18. Although there was some grumbling about the officiating, UConn, which outrebounded its first 15 opponents 35.5 to 31.8 per game, generally blamed itself for the beating it took. "We played kind of timid today," said Brimah, who was limited to nine minutes, seven points and one rebound. "They beat us on the boards. We've got to play better than that. We have to be tough."

It was a big factor, but we rolled out a four-guard lineup for most of the game (in the 1H without Hamilton due to two fouls, who is our best defensive rebounder, even though he can be vulnerable to physical 4s when we play small). You sometimes make sacrifices when you go with certain lineups and we sacrificed rebounding with four guards and Nolan or Facey at the 5 for extended time. You hope to make up the difference with matchups on the other end - and in some ways we did with open threes when they were going in. But the shots stopped falling and our rebounding disadvantage wasn't going to fix itself.

Have to admit Dawkins has gotten the better of us two years in a row. We couldn't crack their zone last year and get Napier going, and we couldn't solve their help defense this year and get Boat going, without going small and spreading the floor with shooters in the corners - and that left a weakness they attacked.
 

gtcam

Diehard since '65
Joined
Sep 12, 2012
Messages
10,990
Reaction Score
29,047
I know why and fully understand why KO doesn't comment about the refs
Just wondering what he thinks and if he questions certain calls and/or sees obvious blown/missed calls and why he has decided, to date, to be so passive.
 

uconnbill

A Half full kind of guy
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
8,382
Reaction Score
14,130
AB gets some calls that other big men don't get. I understand at times he reaches when he doesn't have to, but sometimes they just call because of what they don't see.

The team overall did a lousy job blocking out on the defensive boards. That has to improve going forward
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
1,459
Reaction Score
1,878
I know why and fully understand why KO doesn't comment about the refs
Just wondering what he thinks and if he questions certain calls and/or sees obvious blown/missed calls and why he has decided, to date, to be so passive.

Because questioning officials publicly is a sure-fire fine.
 
Joined
Aug 24, 2011
Messages
1,459
Reaction Score
1,878
The team overall did a lousy job blocking out on the defensive boards. That has to improve going forward

For everyone screaming about the "over the back" (no such rule) calls, or lack there of...this is where it all starts. If you put the guy on your back, you get a whistle when he jumps and reaches over you. Don't leave it up to the official, initiate the contact and take it out of the officials' hands.
 

CTBasketball

Former Owner of the Pizza Thread
Joined
Aug 27, 2012
Messages
9,727
Reaction Score
31,766
AB gets some calls that other big men don't get. I understand at times he reaches when he doesn't have to, but sometimes they just call because of what they don't see.

The team overall did a lousy job blocking out on the defensive boards. That has to improve going forward
Amida is a terrible post defender. Against good competition he will always foul out.
 
Joined
Feb 18, 2012
Messages
1,553
Reaction Score
3,656
BB posters: excuses are like arm pits


In the Bahamas it was double rims, slippery floor, refs and an open door allowing the sea breezes into the arena.


Has there ever been a loss this year that was just on the teams and not contributed by some other force??
Missed the Bahamas game. We're you there?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Online statistics

Members online
653
Guests online
4,623
Total visitors
5,276

Forum statistics

Threads
157,011
Messages
4,076,893
Members
9,967
Latest member
UChuskman


Top Bottom