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ConnHuskBask said:
I can already see the ESPN narrative now. UConn fires national champion winning, former alumni head coach, pays out $10M when CT is facing money problems. If UConn hadn't "left" the Big East to pursue football money they wouldn't be in this position, etc. We would be dragged through the mud.

Meanwhile (not apples to apples obviously) but A&M fires Sumlin who was a successful coach and buys him out for over $10M, hires Jimbo for $75M and is lauded for their "commitment to football".

It's such bs. It makes me just hate college sports.
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Maybe its less about ESPN amd more about UConn being HORRIFIC at messaging!
 
Huskybass said:
Kromah would be exhibit A. But your overall point that grad transfers are nothing but a band aid is a very good one. In the grand scheme of things Gibbs and Onuorah have not helped much. I did like the addition of Shonn Miller though. He was a nice player.
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Kromah filled a specific niche.

Gibbs was a nice player, but horribly mis-cast as a ball-dominant guard. Miller was a stud and under-utilized.

Onuorah might be the worst player to ever get meaningful minutes in the last 25 years, and Anderson might be the worst player to ever play 30 mpg. They were taken because we were desperate, but that's not a defense of KO, actually a harsh condemnation given that it's his fault we had to resort to those guys.
 
whaler11 said:
Can anyone provide a single example of a schools in football or basketball that kept a coach to keep his recruiting class and it worked out?
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Seton Hall. Kevin Williard had basically handed in his badge he was so fired...look at them now though.
 
Huskybass said:
Kromah would be exhibit A. But your overall point that grad transfers are nothing but a band aid is a very good one. In the grand scheme of things Gibbs and Onuorah have not helped much. I did like the addition of Shonn Miller though. He was a nice player.
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Miller was our best player. That says a lot about our team talent that a grad transfer can come from outside and become our best player in one season.
 
zls44 said:
Seton Hall. Kevin Williard had basically handed in his badge he was so fired...look at them now though.
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Good one. Addazio may get over the hump too.
 
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zls44 said:
Maybe its less about ESPN amd more about UConn being HORRIFIC at messaging!
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There's no argument from me that UConn has absolutely botched nearly everything along the way, but to me, these two things aren't mutually exclusive.

I don't consiser myself overly sensitive to UConn in the media, i.e. Player X is voted 2nd team all league, not 1st "they don't respect us!" But by and large on the Fiesta Bowl, APR sanctions, conference realignment, etc. We really get taken to task in the news.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Kromah filled a specific niche.

Gibbs was a nice player, but horribly mis-cast as a ball-dominant guard. Miller was a stud and under-utilized.

Onuorah might be the worst player to ever get meaningful minutes in the last 25 years, and Anderson might be the worst player to ever play 30 mpg. They were taken because we were desperate, but that's not a defense of KO, actually a harsh condemnation given that it's his fault we had to resort to those guys.
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I agree with you on all four.

Things have been so unusual since Shabazz left that the roster always winds up being unconventional. I always hope that a Cobb or an Anderson will really be an impact player, but it usually isn't the case. And to leave 2 scholarships unfilled in 16-17 was bizarre, especially in light of the injury histories of guys like Durham and Gilbert. Our recruiting usually looks good on paper, but often the pieces are damaged or don't fit well together.

I truly miss having a relevant team to root for.
 
lange10 said:
Hurley has a top 25 recruiting class coming in next year. With our brand and facilities he’ll be more than okay on the recruiting trail.

And yes, I’ve already convinced myself he’s our next coach. I need it to get through the rest of the season.
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Might be the other Hurley from what I've heard.
 
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Glastonhusky said:
I assume this is before Chill arrived, everything I read about the guy raved about his work ethic and recruiting ability. I like our 2018 class, not great but solid, we just need to keep the momentum going.
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Raved about Ollie’s work ethic?

As a player? Yep. For sure.

As a recruiter? Nope.
 
intlzncster said:
Why Bobby?
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We will have to see how the rest of the season plays out but it looks like he put together a final four contender at ASU in year 3. Look how good their roster is. They're average something like 90 ppg

He also won the MAC in his only 2 years at Buffalo
 
JMick said:
We will have to see how the rest of the season plays out but it looks like he put together a final four contender at ASU in year 3. Look how good their roster is. They're average something like 90 ppg

He also won the MAC in his only 2 years at Buffalo
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Hard to fall behind 18-4 when you are putting up 90!
 
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JMick said:
Bobby but I'll take either if they wanted to come here
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Bobby Hurley? He is not coming here, that's crazy. Why would he leave to come here? Danny could a realistic option.
 
Matrim55 said:
Might be the other Hurley from what I've heard.
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I would love to see that happen but no way Bobby Jr comes to UCONN when he is building a contender at Arizona State. The guy is in a very large state school, in the PAC 12, easy school to recruit to. Sure he would earn more at UCONN but after this year, I would think Arizona State would increase his salary to keep him.

PS: Great news if he is interested though.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Bobby Hurley? He is not coming here, that's crazy. Why would he leave to come here? Danny could a realistic option.
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Did you not read the question? It was who would you want? Not which do you think we could get. The reading comprehension around here is turrible
 
Huskymagic said:
I would love to see that happen but no way Bobby Jr comes to UCONN when he is building a contender at Arizona State.
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It's not a given he would come here, but from what I've heard it's not to be ruled out.
 
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UCweCONN said:
Danny is younger.
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Yes, but he has a longer track record as a college head coach. He's now in his eighth season, while Bobby's just in his fifth.

That's important to me because - as we're currently seeing here - a HC's flaws can sometimes be hidden by one particularly talented group of players. "Right time, right team" sort of thing and you could get a championship followed by a slow decline.

So to me, one of the crucial measures for our next head coach is a proven ability to win across multiple recruiting classes, and with entirely different rosters that you've brought in. Danny's done that; Bobby has not (yet).

Also worth noting that Danny was HC at St. Benedict's for 9 years. So even though he's younger he has waaay more time on the sideline. He's a veteran.
 
Fishy said:
The American Conference didn’t kill recruiting until the recruiting effort started taking escalators and then elevators and then no longer even wanted to do that.

It was obviously a headwind, but the name on the front of the uniform overcame that to some degree....until the name on the front of the uniform was the only thing recruiting for us.
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If this is the problem, then obviously Chill has helped a lot. And it's easily fixable.

I believe Kevin Ollie is competitive enough to put in effort. I worry that he isn't smart enough to put in the right effort, or tough enough to get the best out of his players.
 
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