Re: Megan Walker's Twitter Page

[CocoHusky]

i say that those stats are true but Sue has twice as many Championships as Diggins and THAT is the measure of a point guard not stats...not to be hateful it is just a fact...just my opinion

Your not being hateful. Championship is a team award and an accurate reflection of Sue having better teammates (3 Olympians?) =overwhelming for Sue. The individual statistics overwhelmingly favor Skylar.

 

[Wally East]

Mostly we were splitting hairs about "conversations" vs "sentence". But... if you want to compare apples to apples (PG to PG) (Skylar vs. Sue) and INDIVIDUAL statistics my opening statements are:

• Skylar scored almost 1000 more points than Sue in college.
• Skylar had more assist than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more steals than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more rebounds than Sue did in college.
• Skylar won the Lieberman award twice, Sue won it once.

What say ye?

Counting stats are for the, well, they certainly don't favor the birds in this case because:

Skylar: 150 games played
Sue Bird: 118 games played.

Playing just 8 games in your freshman year hurts your career totals.

Assists per game are even at 5.0 but Bird's A:TO ratio is 2.1 while Diggins's is 1.5.

Sue was also a much better shooter:

SB: 48.1%, 45.9% 3-pt
SD: 44.8%, 35.0% 3-pt

(Despite all the practice she got at the line, Diggins also was worse than Bird at free throw line: 89.2% vs. 77.9%)

And Diggins took about 3.6 more shots than Bird per game.

Also, Sue won the Lieberman award three times.

 

[mkwstar23]

Counting stats are for the, well, they certainly don't favor the birds in this case because:

Skylar: 150 games played
Sue Bird: 118 games played.

Playing just 8 games in your freshman year hurts your career totals.

Assists per game are even at 5.0 but Bird's A:TO ratio is 2.1 while Diggins's is 1.5.

Sue was also a much better shooter:

SB: 48.1%, 45.9% 3-pt
SD: 44.8%, 35.0% 3-pt

(Despite all the practice she got at the line, Diggins also was worse than Bird at free throw line: 89.2% vs. 77.9%)

And Diggins took about 3.6 more shots than Bird per game.

Also, Sue won the Lieberman award three times.

i thought that Sue won Lieberman award three times

 

[mkwstar23]

She was playing very well (Most Improved Player and 1st team All-WNBA in '14) before her knee injury in early '15. She was not the same this year. This year specifically she was just a very famous average player. I hope she can get back to her pre-injury form.

trading Sims might help too...not enough basketballs for both of them...it takes away from both of their talents...both need the ball to be effective

 

[RockyMTblue2]

i thought that Sue won Lieberman award three times

She did.

 

[HopJim]

Not sure about anyone else, but while I would welcome Meagan to the Huskie family, getting bored with the "all Walker, all the time" posts. Would appreciate equal energy going into other recruits-who they are and where they are in the recruiting process.

 

[Wally East]

Oh, and as long as we're mentioning Lieberman awards, just to cap the Bird vs. Diggins: Sue won all of the POY awards in 2002. Diggins won none.

So, her senior season, Sue Bird was, by all accounts, as voted by both media and coaches, the best player in the country her senior year.

Skyler was not.

 

[meyers7]

Mostly we were splitting hairs about "conversations" vs "sentence". But... if you want to compare apples to apples (PG to PG) (Skylar vs. Sue) and INDIVIDUAL statistics my opening statements are:

• Skylar scored almost 1000 more points than Sue in college.
• Skylar had more assist than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more steals than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more rebounds than Sue did in college.
• Skylar won the Lieberman award twice, Sue won it once.

What say ye?

Sorry to have to do this BUT

Skyler played 32 more games than Sue did in college. So one can assume she would have higher total numbers. Notice you didn't add in shooting percentages or A/TO ratio. .481%/.448%. 3 pt .459%/.350% and A/TO was 2.11/ 1.50.

AND, Bird won the NLC Pt Guard award 3 (Three) times, not once.

If you are going to use Individual stats, it would be nice to get them correct.

On Edit. Sorry Wally, I didn't read far enough.

 

[Reypl21]

Oh, and as long as we're mentioning Lieberman awards, just to cap the Bird vs. Diggins: Sue won all of the POY awards in 2002. Diggins won none.

So, her senior season, Sue Bird was, by all accounts, as voted by both media and coaches, the best player in the country her senior year.

Skyler was not.

Well I'm willing to bet that Sue Bird didn't have two other women that were anywhere near the level of future Olympians Brittney Griner and Elena Delle Donne during her senior year.

 

[HoopsFan21]

Did someone really compare Diggins to Sue Bird? If someone asked you to make a list of the top 10 greatest college players of all time, would Diggins make that list? Would she even make the top 25?

 

[southie]

This thread sure did get hijacked . . .

 

[JSB60]

Counting stats are for the, well, they certainly don't favor the birds in this case because:

Skylar: 150 games played
Sue Bird: 118 games played.

Playing just 8 games in your freshman year hurts your career totals.

Assists per game are even at 5.0 but Bird's A:TO ratio is 2.1 while Diggins's is 1.5.

Sue was also a much better shooter:

SB: 48.1%, 45.9% 3-pt
SD: 44.8%, 35.0% 3-pt

(Despite all the practice she got at the line, Diggins also was worse than Bird at free throw line: 89.2% vs. 77.9%)

And Diggins took about 3.6 more shots than Bird per game.

Also, Sue won the Lieberman award three times.

I'm not sure these stats explain all that much. They played on very different teams, which really dictated much of the difference in shots taken, percentages, and A/TO ratio. Skylar played on some very good teams with some very good players, but Sue was surrounded by all time greats. I doubt any point guard ever had better teammates. So Sue could shoot less, be in a better position to make assists, take fewer chances on turnovers, etc..

Of course, I think Sue was the far superior player, but I'm not going to try to lean on stats one way or another.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Did someone really compare Diggins to Sue Bird? If someone asked you to make a list of the top 10 greatest college players of all time, would Diggins make that list? Would she even make the top 25?

I'm A Uconn/Sue Fan--but---Skylar would make the list at ND.

 

[BroadwayVa]

Well I'm willing to bet that Sue Bird didn't have two other women that were anywhere near the level of future Olympians Brittney Griner and Elena Delle Donne during her senior year.

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WHAT???

 

[Wally East]

Well I'm willing to bet that Sue Bird didn't have two other women that were anywhere near the level of future Olympians Brittney Griner and Elena Delle Donne during her senior year.

A player on the level of Britney Griner and EDD. Let me think.

Let me think.

Hmm.

Oh, wait. Yes, of course.

Diana Taurasi.

 

[Wally East]

I'm A Uconn/Sue Fan--but---Skylar would make the list at ND.

All time, every school. So, a list looking like:

Diana, Chamique Holdsclaw, Tamika Catchings, Breanna Stewart, Candace Parker, Maya Moore, Cheryl Miller, Sheryl Swoopes, Katie Smith, and Lisa Leslie.

These 10 just serving as an example, of course

 

[Wally East]

On Edit. Sorry Wally, I didn't read far enough.

No problem

 

[Orangutan]

Did someone really compare Diggins to Sue Bird? If someone asked you to make a list of the top 10 greatest college players of all time, would Diggins make that list? Would she even make the top 25?

No. Actually they did not. Somebody thought it happened and Coco started playing devil's advocate and now we have a bunch of people making the point that Bird was better than Diggins and no one who actually believes Diggins was comparable to or better than Bird.

Fun!

 

[Orangutan]

This thread sure did get hijacked . . .

As compared to how focused it was before

 

[easttexastrash]

Not sure about anyone else, but while I would welcome Meagan to the Huskie family, getting bored with the "all Walker, all the time" posts. Would appreciate equal energy going into other recruits-who they are and where they are in the recruiting process.

There are none for 2017. Let's face it, this is a HUGE recruit for UCONN as not getting her would mean that UCONN has one top 10 recruit in two years.

 

[uconnell]

• Mostly we were splitting hairs about "conversations" vs "sentence". But... if you want to compare apples to apples (PG to PG) (Skylar vs. Sue) and INDIVIDUAL statistics my opening statements are:
  

  • Skylar scored almost 1000 more points than Sue in college.
  • Skylar had more assist than Sue did in college.
  • Skylar had more steals than Sue did in college.
  • Skylar had more rebounds than Sue did in college.
  • Skylar won the Lieberman award twice, Sue won it once.

  
  What say ye?

  
  Did Skylar win a Championship,all those. Statistic are great but...... that's what say me.
  

 

[cbraarj]

Mostly we were splitting hairs about "conversations" vs "sentence". But... if you want to compare apples to apples (PG to PG) (Skylar vs. Sue) and INDIVIDUAL statistics my opening statements are:

• Skylar scored almost 1000 more points than Sue in college.
• Skylar had more assist than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more steals than Sue did in college.
• Skylar had more rebounds than Sue did in college.
• Skylar won the Lieberman award twice, Sue won it once.

What say ye?

Sue Bird won the first 3 Lieberman Awards in her last 3 seasons at Uconn. Bird only played 118 games because she had an ACL injury her freshman year. Her record was 114 -4. Skylar played in 25 to 30 games more than Sue did.

 

[CocoHusky]

Sue Bird won the first 3 Lieberman Awards in her last 3 seasons at Uconn. Bird only played 118 games because she had an ACL injury her freshman year. Her record was 114 -4. Skylar played in 25 to 30 games more than Sue did.

All your corrections are noted above.

 

[CocoHusky]

• Did Skylar win a Championship,all those. Statistic are great but. that's what say me.

Championship=team awards. That Sue had better teammates has already been noted.

 

[cbraarj]

All your corrections are noted above.

Skylar record was 130 - 20. I dont think she missed a game. 32 more than Sue..

 

[CocoHusky]

Sorry to have to do this BUT

Skyler played 32 more games than Sue did in college. So one can assume she would have higher total numbers. Notice you didn't add in shooting percentages or A/TO ratio. .481%/.448%. 3 pt .459%/.350% and A/TO was 2.11/ 1.50.

AND, Bird won the NLC Pt Guard award 3 (Three) times, not once.

If you are going to use Individual stats, it would be nice to get them correct.

On Edit. Sorry Wally, I didn't read far enough.

I was wrong on the Lieberman awards. Sue won the first 3. The shooting numbers & A/TO ratio favor Sue drastically as noted by you and @Wally East.
If you normalize the other numbers to account for the difference of + 32 games for Skylar by (using a per/game average) for points, assists, steals, rebounds would drastically favor Skylar.
To expand on a specific example points:
Total Points: Sue 1378, 2357 : Points/Game: Sue 11.7, Skylar 15.7
Sue would have to average 30 points/game in 32 games to make up the difference in career points between her and Skylar.

To @Wally East point: "And Diggins took about 3.6 more shots than Bird per game." -I'd gladly take that because the efficiency is pretty good >1 Point/shot attempt. But we all know that efficiency was because Skylar knew how to make her way to the charity stripe.

 

[CocoHusky]

Skylar record was 130 - 20. I dont think she missed a game. 32 more than Sue..

Previously noted twice by @meyers7 & @Wally East.

 

[cbraarj]

Previously noted twice by @meyers7 & @Wally East.

Didnt see it until now or I would not have repeated it.

 

[cbraarj]

Skylar had to score for ND. Sue didnt but she was the leader those 3 years. Diggins is great player but no NCs. Nneka is MVP but if the Lynx win than what matters more. She did the same thing at Stanford, no NCs.

 

[cbraarj]

Skylar had to score for ND. Sue didnt but she was the leader those 3 years. Diggins is great player but no NCs. Nneka is MVP but if the Lynx win than what matters more. She did the same thing at Stanford, no NCs.