Putting the ball on the court at the end of a game

[MD#12Fan]

Quit this song and dance!
Let the kids play. The end of the game is a chance for bench players to get minutes. To learn and play basketball. Both teams have a bench. How many scholarships do D1 teams get- 13, 14, 15. That means 3, 4 or 5 players on each team have players generally not playing at all. (I know except for UConn with all their infirmities) The game is over. Everybody knows the game is over. Let 'em play.
Or.... just sound the horn and let's go home.
This dribbling out the clock or placing the ball down or whatever is a waste of my oxygen. I like it in the NFL, when the clock can just run out and players start walking across the field to shake hands. Very communal and positive. They could do that. If the losing teams concede and there is less than 30 seconds to go, everyone starts shaking hands. BTW I love how the NBA ends games now, with hugs and hand shakes with teammates and opponents. I get a kick out of it.

 

[Cuango]

Still haven’t seen a real explanation of why setting the ball down on the court is somehow taunting, insulting, disrespectful, or enraging to the opposing players. I guess I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I just don’t get it!

 

[sun]

Still haven’t seen a real explanation of why setting the ball down on the court is somehow taunting, insulting, disrespectful, or enraging to the opposing players. I guess I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I just don’t get it!

For every Nika who wants to put the ball down early, somewhere there's an anti-Nika who wants to pick the ball up.
Anti-Nika may enjoy to keep playing the game and doesn't mind risking a fun tumble with Nika.
It's in the rules, the game isn't over until it's over.
I don't know how else to put it, Nika may be ready to quit early but others don't need to agree with her.

What do you want UConn to do, have all of the players huddle around the ball so Nika doesn't need to dribble it out?
Maybe that would be considered an invitation for a technical?

 

[MD#12Fan]

Still haven’t seen a real explanation of why setting the ball down on the court is somehow taunting, insulting, disrespectful, or enraging to the opposing players. I guess I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I just don’t get it!

I'll try.
In victory, a sportsman is understated, a sportsman expresses humility and modesty. A sportsman compliments the opponent. Sometimes the best examples of this is after a boxing match, in which the two combatants tried for 11 rounds to knock the other's block off.
in one-on-one, if I was checking you the ball and I was overly competitive or aggressive, I might put the ball in front of you on the ground, probably with some gyrations or expletives to go with it. It would be a gesture of aggression. Players know what that would mean. It's the polar opposite of the humble attitude in my first paragraph.
Time to lay down the swords and acknowledge your opponents effort
All the non-verbal communication we do on a minute by minute basis! It is what it is.
In the British Open of (I think) 2016, Jordan Spieth (my favorite) made a windy eagle putt coming down the stretch and, as he walked off the green, he pointed at the hole telling his caddy to "pull it out"- pull the ball out of the hole. It was a thrilling moment. 2 or so holes prior he had literally almost hit the ball off the golf course. Yes- his gestures were uncool, unsportsmanlike for golf. Yes, it was exciting as heck. Google it for kicks

 

[Longtime fan]

How can it be considered unsportsmanlike or taunting, the only thing they are doing is putting the ball on the court and walking away.

And, in every case I have seen, the defending team has stopped defending. Everyone knows the game is over and the outcome decided. Time to take a shower.

 

[meyers7]

I'll try.
In victory, a sportsman is understated, a sportsman expresses humility and modesty. A sportsman compliments the opponent. Sometimes the best examples of this is after a boxing match, in which the two combatants tried or 11 rounds to knock the other's block off.
in one-on-one, if I was checking you the ball and I was overly competitive or aggressive, I might put the ball in ront of you on the ground, probably with some gyrations or expletives to go with it. It would be a gesture of aggression. Players know what that would mean. It's the polar opposite of the humble attitude in my irst paragraph.
Time to lay down the swords and acknowledge your opponents effort
All the non-verbal communication we do on a minute by minute basis! It is what it is.
In the British Open of (I think) 2016, Jordan Spieth (my avorite) made a windy eagle putt coming down the stretch and, as he walked off the green, he pointed at the hole telling his caddy to "pull it out"- pull the ball out of the hole. It was a thrilling moment. 2 or so holes prior he had literally almost hit the ball off the golf course. Yes- his gestures were uncool, unsportsmanlike or golf. Yes, it was exciting as heck. Google it or kicks

That makes no sense. Explain how putting the ball down at the end of the game and walking away is taunting? It's the exact opposite.

 

[Carnac]

Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill. People are too easily offended today.

You’re right! People are easily offended today. That’s why we have ”road rage” incidents today we did not have 40-50 years ago. This is where we are and we have no choice but to live with it. You can’t make people see things the way we may want them to. Rich people have a much different perspective on world events and day to day life than poor people do. That will never change.

 

[Forego]

Who's gonna tell'em about what Diana did with the ball at the end of the NCAA finals?

As I recall, she dropkicked it into the stands. In her defense she might have trying to kick it over to CD to see if she could catch it.

 

[Carnac]

Those actions are all easily construed as disrespectful or even taunting. How is simply setting the ball down on the court seen in that light?

How????? Perception. Everyone does not see things the same. They never have and never will. Look at the division on this topic so far. Some think it’s much ado about nothing, others have a much different opinion. Who is right? Who is wrong? Is there a right or wrong, or just a difference of opinion/perception?

I’m fine with anyone not seeing this from my point of view. I respect others point of view, but I don’t have to agree with it.

 

[The deacon]

How????? Perception. Everyone does not see things the same. They never have and never will. Look at the division on this topic so far. Some think it’s much ado about nothing, others have a much different opinion. Who is right? Who is wrong? Is there a right or wrong, or just a difference of opinion/perception?

I’m fine with anyone not seeing this from my point of view. I respect others point of view, but I don’t have to agree with it.

Exactly, Carnac.... it seems we wouldn't need to go any further than to ask Nika and Amari for their thoughts on the matter. Clearly, in the game in question above, Amari instinctively felt to pick the ball up and hand it to the ref was the respectful and courteous thing to do.

I would admire Nika that much more if she had done that, and hope she will in the future, maybe after the Huskies have beaten Stanford or SC in the national championship game? Dribbling the ball for another three or four seconds would hardly lessen the joy of a post-game celebration.

 

[Plebe]

In my opinion, this is much ado about nothing. But, that's just me.

Not just you.

Truly unbelievable that something so trivial and inconsequential as this is prompting such hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing. Good lord.

Still haven’t seen a real explanation of why setting the ball down on the court is somehow taunting, insulting, disrespectful, or enraging to the opposing players. I guess I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I just don’t get it!

It isn't at all. People have active imaginations that they insist on exercising.

 

[boontonbomber]

This is something new that is catching on around college and probbly HS basketball. The head coaches will control it. Either they will allow it or they won't. As I shared in another thread, I'm old school. That is not how we were taught to play the game. I played for three coaches. 1 HS, 2 in college. All three would have gone ballistic if one of their players did that. That player probably would have been benched for the next game. We we always taught to respect the game, and don't cheat it.

But that was 50 years ago. Things, perceptions and people change. We played in tight short shorts and Chuck Taylor shoes. Nike, Addidas and Puma had not been invented yet. Since basketball has been played the styles and brands have changed from decade to decade. In the ‘50s and ‘60s, Converse was the dominant shoe in the league, during this era the NBA was all about legends Bill Russel and Wilt Chamberlain. Few people today know that the “Chuck” is truly a basketball shoe. THIS is the shoe I played in. This was all we had at the time.

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We played with only 2 referees. The 3 point line was about 25 years in the future. There were no girl's HS sports teams in the mid-60's in metropolitan L.A. All male sports teams....football, basketball, golf, tennis, baseball, etc. My college did not have any intercolligiete women's sports teams either. See how much things have changed in the last 50 years. I don't like it, but I can live with it. It won't keep me up at night. It will only continue if the coaches allow it.

Well, I played even further back, and I can't remember stopping playing until the final buzzer went off. I believe that was one of Naismith's original rules. Up by 20,down by 20, we just kept playing. Beat 'em by 22. What's the difference. Oh, and loved my Converse All Stars.

 

[DefenseBB]

Normally Nan would have “locked” this thread already, but as she innocuously started it, maybe Biff can sub in and lock it down…
This thread shows how rigid our brethren are with their views and seeing conspiracy everywhere when none exists.

 

[sun]

How can you expect UConn players to become pro players someday if they're not taught to play like pros?
A pro coach would ask, "Where did you learn to play that way...Mars?"

 

[MD#12Fan]

That makes no sense. Explain how putting the ball down at the end of the game and walking away is taunting? It's the exact opposite.

Ever play competitive sports?

 

[MD#12Fan]

Exactly, Carnac.... it seems we wouldn't need to go any further than to ask Nika and Amari for their thoughts on the matter. Clearly, in the game in question above, Amari instinctively felt to pick the ball up and hand it to the ref was the respectful and courteous thing to do.

I would admire Nika that much more if she had done that, and hope she will in the future, maybe after the Huskies have beaten Stanford or SC in the national championship game? Dribbling the ball for another three or four seconds would hardly lessen the joy of a post-game celebration.

Maybe we can plant a UConn flag at center court!

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

Exactly, Carnac.... it seems we wouldn't need to go any further than to ask Nika and Amari for their thoughts on the matter. Clearly, in the game in question above, Amari instinctively felt to pick the ball up and hand it to the ref was the respectful and courteous thing to do.

I would admire Nika that much more if she had done that, and hope she will in the future, maybe after the Huskies have beaten Stanford or SC in the national championship game? Dribbling the ball for another three or four seconds would hardly lessen the joy of a post-game celebration.

Most refs will refuse to take the ball. They do not have a responsibility to remove the ball after the game. Some - and it is only some - will take the ball to prevent an accidental tripping, etc. The ball is collected by a member of the home staff, and not typically directly from a player.

Arizona typically stands and holds the ball when they are unguarded. They bring it up to the forecourt if necessary, if under 10 seconds are on the clock I have seen them stand under the opponents basket. If they are guarded, they dribble the game out. I would not care if they laid the ball on the court if the other team has given up.

 

[Viet Vet]

When I played in High school I always just set the ball on the court when we won big. I could care less if the other team didnt like it. I was kinda like Nika, I didnt like the other team or anyone associated with it until way after the game was over and I had left the gym.

Bush league.