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The new 0 for America is now bestowed upon Nika
These damn Europeans! ;)

Though Nika missed 2 makable layups--1 a left-handed reverse and 1 from slightly too far under the basket--plus an open 3-pointer, I thought she played pretty well. She made some nice passes and caused Providence to commit two 5-second violations. She definitely added energy today. Once she scores, she will be more relaxed.
 
These damn Europeans! ;)

Though Nika missed 2 makable layups--1 a left-handed reverse and 1 from slightly too far under the basket--plus an open 3-pointer, I thought she played pretty well. She made some nice passes and caused Providence to commit two 5-second violations. She definitely added energy today. Once she scores, she will be more relaxed.
So will the fans! LOL :D
 
My 2 cents....


I'm not as down on this game as some. Defense looked good to me. Yes there were some drop-offs in concentration but it is damn hard to play full-on defense for a full game, with so many moving parts after 11 days off. Geno coaching his A** off on the defensive side.

First 4 minutes looked a bit disjointed…maybe the layoff or maybe the change in line-up. But, they did have 3 short layup chances in those 4 minutes and missed all of them with fouls called on Providence. Foul on Liv for illegal screen seemed very ticky tacky to me, turnover by CW going to the basket and poor entry pass by CW. I think they could have sticked with this line-up longer to see if they could iron on the mistakes. They could have easily had 6 points at a minimum during that time if they hit the bunnies.

Guard Play:
EW looking better. Starting to take advantage of her quickness, size and skills on offense. I hope she can keep this up against top competition. This will stress our opponent’s defensively and it may be their best offensive player (for example Jones at Stanford) who is guarding EW, so even better! Defensive consistency is still a struggle. She falls asleep sometimes. I don't think she is used to being expected to play good defense all the time.

PB starting to become a menace on defense/disruptive with her anticipation of passes. Getting better at stopping penetration as well. PB starting to hit that mid-range pull up. She is fast becoming a first team AA. She hasn’t quite had the huge game I think is coming, but she is getting close to it.

Only 10 shots and scored 23 points with 5 assists. If this was Cooke for example, she would need 18-20 shots to get the same results. What you saw PB do off the ball in the half court is what you would hope CW would do with PB at the point. This is really disappointing…maybe just a bad game for CW, but I didn’t think she had been terrific to this point anyway and was hoping for a little bit of a breakout from her.

NM – wow, this kid can play! Terrific facilitator of the BB – much like PB. Great option going forward to keep the offense moving if PB or CW need a break (or even start for CW). Using NM to play the point and get the offense started so we can run a quick screen for PB and post her up on 2 different possessions and also drain threes off screens. Also, she takes pressure off the ball handling from PB. I can't think of any team tht has an option like NM coming off the bench!

I wonder if CW is heading for more pine time with an emergence of NM at the point. She missed her shots again, but she did break down the defense on at least 6 occasions with penetration and passing. That is a lot of easy points for her teammates that the backup guard is creating. I get the feeling she is going to break out soon with her scoring.

Controlled her hand swiping better but still does it (did it twice). You can tell she is working on this, but it will take time as this is a deep-seeded habit of hers. It may rear its ugly head more when she plays extended minutes and gets a bit tired.

She was also the cause of at least 3 Providence TOs as well. Just an really impactful game all around except she can't find the bottom of the net.

I think we can safely say that her perceived lack of foot quickness was due primarily to her injury. Her lateral movement looked good to me.
 
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My two cents...

Bigs:

AG - How many teams have the luxury of putting a long, rangy, quick defender on the opposing team’s point? Geno finding more roles for AG to impact the game. It is no fun for the opposing point to be harassed all the way up the court, expelling energy and having to make multiple decisions with the ball, time after time. This wears down players both mentally and physically. You saw this happen with the backcourt turnover AG forced. It also makes the opposing team run their offense more crisply since they will be starting their rotation with a good 8-10 seconds less on the clock. This also saves energy for one of our guards who now doesn’t need to mirror the opposition’s point guard. It is a win all around with big domino effects. AG also hit a 15 footer…if she can do that at a 45% clip, she is instant AA. Not sure they were in Zone, but having AG at the top of the Zone would be a great option as well.

On the other hand, it may be hard to play AG for extended minutes with all the energy she puts into playing full court defense. She never gets a rest on the court. I think this is why she missed a few bunnies.

When UCONN plays Stanford, it may be that AG will play more, but this time to stick to Jones like glue. I think she is the only player we have to counter Jones.

AM - Once AM started hitting threes, there was no way GA was taking her out. He wants her to shoot herself out of the funk she is in. I think she had a good start today, draining the first two with no hesitation on the ‘catch and shoot’.

By the way, AM’s defense was very good – beat once and only once, that I saw. I disagree with many posters who say she gets ‘torched’ or beat a lot off the dribble. She does get beat sometimes, but CW and EW get beat more often than AM. Also notice how AM brings out the other team’s big and then Geno can post up AG. AM makes a difference just by being out there with threat of the three.

The question is will AM be able to duplicate her good defense against top level teams? Well, I think she could because usually against these lower level teams, she has to effectively play a quicker, perimeter player who can shoot from the outside. Against higher-level teams, that player may be taller and stronger, but not as quick and will probably not have the perimeter movement skills that AM has to deal with now.

Liv continues to struggle finishing. She loses her balance too often and just isn’t quite strong enough to finish. I am becoming less optimistic that this will change much this year. I think she will be inconsistent as she has shown in finishing. But, she just needs 12 and 10 against Top level competition and be effective on defense and stay in the game. We have a chance if she can do that!

AE is very quick in the post. Knows how to post up. Needs to finish better. Big, strong body. Breakout game coming.

Mir – Didn’t look lost. She appears to be in the ‘I’ve memorised by steps in the offense now’ stage. It’s not second nature and she can’t deviate off her basic responsibilities, but I think she has it down, just needs to be a bit more crisp. I could be wrong but it’s like she can only remember the next step and then once she gets there, she remembers the next step, and so forth. Good energy and may be another option for full court harassment of the opposing point guard.

PG – You can tell she is being coached. Can she give us a few minutes down the road??
 
-what we MIGHT think of Anna differs from Geno thinks. Anna must try to do everything Geno wants in practice.

-the open missed layups has been a multiple year problem

- as brilliant as Bueckers has been, the turnover number has to drop.

-ONO‘s minutes per game continues to be ahead scratcher.

- watching Aubrey play well is an absolute treat.

- the ease in which Paige posted up the shorter guard was scary.

- Chief00 am glad he pulled the starters early. Would he have done it against Baylor?

- it looks like the free throw issue was addressed and fixed.

-Mir’s body language has done a 180. Chief00 can’t believe how similar she is to Aubrey.

-the posts are too flat footed when receiving entry passes.

- Chief00 continue to believe Plath will be factor before her time is up.
Bueckers had 2 turnovers?
 
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Has anyone noticed that everywhere the letter (eye or aye) is typed, it shows Chief00? Have to type the word or it won't show. What causes that?
yes I (eye) or will it be Chief00 noticed this.... Your not going crazy Donald but I thought I was until I read your message. Thanks for having the courage to ask about it.... I was too chickenS*** . Thought I was seeing things...
 
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Man O man. After reading these posts, I was hesitant to say anything for fear of starting a firestorm of indignation. But then I realized it's pretty cold here in SC so a little fire would be beneficial:

1 - We proved once again that a quick water bug of a guard gives us real trouble. Geno had to try his best on ball defender on her and Aubrey spent many trips up court running along beside her to try and cut her off. It's a good thing dribbling slows people down.

2 - Ono had trouble with players her size. I was very happy when she realized she could dominate smaller posts. This girl is no where near the athlete Ono is and gave her fits for a while. Also, I did not see one run out for her.

3 - Aubrey stood out in this helter skelter rag tag game. Her athleticism and quick hands serve her well in these situations. However she is no where ready to play a significant role in the half court offense. She still doesn't know how to run the plays. On her cuts through the paint she will stop and stand instead of run through thereby clogging the middle for the next cutter. Other players have to tell her where to go and when to go. Also she doesn't look for the ball as she runs down court but runs to a spot. She almost blocked the pass from Paige to Aaliyah on an Aaliyah basket because with her back to the ball, she had no idea the pass was coming.

4 - Paige has to change her game this year and become the shooter. She is the most proficient 3 point shooter and her skill must by used to open the lane for the slashers.

5 - Glad to see E take charge for a short spell. Sad to see it was only for a short spell. I am beginning to wonder of she may be a bit gun shy about sticking her head out of a foxhole for more than a bit. She did get in a heck of allot of trouble before.

6 - The offense always runs better with Anna than anyone else at the 4. Even if she is not hitting her 3's the other players can trust her to be in the right spot and to make the right pass. Not the quickest of foot she is strong enough to physically dominate defensive position underneath. If today takes the lid off the rim for her then there is nothing but good news.

7 - So sad to see Christyn depressed on the bench. I am sure that will compound Geno's dissatisfaction with her performance today. She is expected to lead at all times.

8 - Glad to see Aaliyah get to experience starting a game. Early Jitters were obvious. I hope we don't have to start her again this year.

9 - It's been a while since I've seen Geno this up set in a 30 point win. Justified though. He may be wondering who he can count on down the road.

Well, that's probably enough tinder to get a fire started with some of my good friends on the board. Remember I'm just a poor redneck boy in South Carolina and my opinions reflect that. So go easy on me.
Hey Husky! I'm from SC too - Charleston to be exact.

I like most of what you said and will respond mostly to my disagreements if that is ok:
1. Didn't think we did a bad job against their guards but I do agree that smaller quicker guards could be a problem.
2. AG made a 15 foot jumper and that bodes well. If we run the offense and use her to post up or if she can sit at the foul-line extended and take her player to the hoop, then she can be good in the half court as well. It may not always be conventional, but can be effective nonetheless. Not sure if Geno will like the unconventional part though.
3. Agree on AM, Liv and the rest. AE is going to have a breakout game soon. Very quick in the low post with strong body to go with it.
 
Some thoughts on the Providence game:
  • Raggedy start after 11 days without a game. The challenge for UConn will be to maintain continuity and continue to improve during a season of starts and stops.
  • When UConn went to a small lineup, Aubrey & Mir’s energy immediately changed the tempo and complexion of the game.
  • Evina was moving as well as I’ve seen her move all season. She showed some really explosive moves to the basket.
  • Paige scored 23 points on 8 for 10 shooting. She still needs to take more shots. As Geno says, “The person who makes the most shots, needs to take the most shots.”
  • While Aaliyah earned the start today, I was anxious to see how Anna reacted to coming off the bench. When Anna is knocking down 3’s, like today, the entire court opens up for UConn’s offense
  • Aubrey was all over the court making plays today, defending 1 through 5 and even knocking down a 15 footer. Does she start next game?
I think you and I saw the same game oldude! :):)
 
That was not true of Chong. She played much better as a senior than at any other time in her UConn career.
True but she still wasn't what you wanted from her, especially on the defensive end. I thought she had a chance to be big time coming off her freshman year....
 
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My two cents...

Bigs:

AG - How many teams have the luxury of putting a long, rangy, quick defender on the opposing team’s point? Geno finding more roles for AG to impact the game. It is no fun for the opposing point to be harassed all the way up the court, expelling energy and having to make multiple decisions with the ball, time after time. This wears down players both mentally and physically. You saw this happen with the backcourt turnover AG forced. It also makes the opposing team run their offense more crisply since they will be starting their rotation with a good 8-10 seconds less on the clock. This also saves energy for one of our guards who now doesn’t need to mirror the opposition’s point guard. It is a win all around with big domino effects. AG also hit a 15 footer…if she can do that at a 45% clip, she is instant AA. Not sure they were in Zone, but having AG at the top of the Zone would be a great option as well.

On the other hand, it may be hard to play AG for extended minutes with all the energy she puts into playing full court defense. She never gets a rest on the court. I think this is why she missed a few bunnies.

When UCONN plays Stanford, it may be that AG will play more, but this time to stick to Jones like glue. I think she is the only player we have to counter Jones.

AM - Once AM started hitting threes, there was no way GA was taking her out. He wants her to shoot herself out of the funk she is in. I think she had a good start today, draining the first two with no hesitation on the ‘catch and shoot’.

By the way, AM’s defense was very good – beat once and only once, that I saw. I disagree with many posters who say she gets ‘torched’ or beat a lot off the dribble. She does get beat sometimes, but CW and EW get beat more often than AM. Also notice how AM brings out the other team’s big and then Geno can post up AG. AM makes a difference just by being out there with threat of the three.

The question is will AM be able to duplicate her good defense against top level teams? Well, I think she could because usually against these lower level teams, she has to effectively play a quicker, perimeter player who can shoot from the outside. Against higher-level teams, that player may be taller and stronger, but not as quick and will probably not have the perimeter movement skills that AM has to deal with now.

Liv continues to struggle finishing. She loses her balance too often and just isn’t quite strong enough to finish. I am becoming less optimistic that this will change much this year. I think she will be inconsistent as she has shown in finishing. But, she just needs 12 and 10 against Top level competition and be effective on defense and stay in the game. We have a chance if she can do that!

AE is very quick in the post. Knows how to post up. Needs to finish better. Big, strong body. Breakout game coming.

Mir – Didn’t look lost. She appears to be in the ‘I’ve memorised by steps in the offense now’ stage. It’s not second nature and she can’t deviate off her basic responsibilities, but I think she has it down, just needs to be a bit more crisp. I could be wrong but it’s like she can only remember the next step and then once she gets there, she remembers the next step, and so forth. Good energy and may be another option for full court harassment of the opposing point guard.

PG – You can tell she is being coached. Can she give us a few minutes down the road??
Excellent commentary. I keep hearing how poor AM’s defense is but as she is the player I focus on, I vaguely recall the only one time she was beat. One time in 36 minutes. The truth is she makes up for slower feet with floor iq. That is one of the reasons why Geno played her more than any other player along with his admission that the team doesn’t play as well with her on the bench. Others were beat several times. PB played great as usual but she got taken on defense, especially nearer basket, just as she did in high school. On the other hand, her incredible anticipation created havoc. As much as Geno praises her shooting, he is less enthusiastic about her defense. Don’t get me wrong. She will dominate the game for four years and will rack up more than one POY award.

As for offense, AM put up only five shots. I saw two or three times where she should have taken the shot. But the real problem for AM and other long range bombers is the team’s tunnel vision. They simply don’t see open outside shooters, going for layups instead when the chances are slim. That might be Geno’s fault.
 
Excellent commentary. I keep hearing how poor AM’s defense is but as she is the player I focus on, I vaguely recall the only one time she was beat. One time in 36 minutes. The truth is she makes up for slower feet with floor iq. That is one of the reasons why Geno played her more than any other player along with his admission that the team doesn’t play as well with her on the bench. Others were beat several times. PB played great as usual but she got taken on defense, especially nearer basket, just as she did in high school. On the other hand, her incredible anticipation created havoc. As much as Geno praises her shooting, he is less enthusiastic about her defense. Don’t get me wrong. She will dominate the game for four years and will rack up more than one POY award.

As for offense, AM put up only five shots. I saw two or three times where she should have taken the shot. But the real problem for AM and other long range bombers is the team’s tunnel vision. They simply don’t see open outside shooters, going for layups instead when the chances are slim. That might be Geno’s fault.
I could not agree more and it is so refreshing that some people actually get AM's value to this team. Her benching had nothing to do with GA's displeasure with her. He just thought that maybe coming off the bench would help her get her shots falling. She still missed 2 she could have made and yes, I remember a couple she could have taken. I want her trigger on the ball like KLM use to be. Heck KLM was shooting before she got the ball.

By the way, AM had 5 rebounds, 3 assists, shot 60% from 3 while the rest of the team shot 30%, 1 TO, 1 Foul, beaten only once to the hoop. I'm not saying she is AA, but she's pretty darn good!

We all need to give her come credit for a very good game. Geno must have liked it, once her put her in, he never took her out.
 
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Not a criticism just and observation. I noticed that during Aubrey's post game presser that after each answer there was an awkward moment of silence. One would say she is a woman of few words but, I think she will need a little word smithing tutoring for future post game interviews.
Maybe its because the questions are so freaking bad. Who are these idiots asking these questions?? Good golly moss molly.
 
Not a criticism just and observation. I noticed that during Aubrey's post game presser that after each answer there was an awkward moment of silence. One would say she is a woman of few words but, I think she will need a little word smithing tutoring for future post game interviews.

Not every player is a "Rebecca Lobo of the Microphone". Different players have different personalities. Some are "Extroverts" and well spoken individuals and some are "Introverts" and are not necessarily comfortable in speaking in front of people. It well could be that Aubrey prefers to do her talking "On The Court". And in my humble opinion, I would rather see her to continue to practice on continuing to be able to put up games consistently, like yesterday's effort, than having her spend anytime on being 'tutored' on how to speak in front the press.
 
As to the CW no show, having Paige on board takes some adjustments, especially if she and the coaching staff thought CW was going to take the de facto captain's role. It's clear Paige is the leader of this team, at least in the early going. As goes Paige so will the team. To take a back seat to that will eat at a kid, especially someone as apparently sensitive CW is, and she needs to find how she fits into things as a significant contributor to this team. We will not go far in the tourney if she can't give us 10-15 ppg and 4-8 rpg. There's time to make the adjustment and the schedule will give her that runway but she and the coaches need to figure it out.
 
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The key for her is not how she played today but how she will play next Wednesday. She has to realize that a once in a generation player who plays her position is joining the team next year.
CW appears to struggle with her confidence, which to us mere mortals seems silly because she is in a enormously gifted athlete. She just needs to develop no conscience. Don’t worry about the last play just make the next one. I’d also like to see Geno run more please to get her open looks in the corners. She can make those shots if she has time to sit her feet. Likewise, I’d like to see her taking the ball to hoop off screens. She’s fast enough to make those plays.

She’s a good player. She just needs to believe in herself and not compare herself to anyone else.
 
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Hey Husky! I'm from SC too - Charleston to be exact.

I like most of what you said and will respond mostly to my disagreements if that is ok:
1. Didn't think we did a bad job against their guards but I do agree that smaller quicker guards could be a problem.
2. AG made a 15 foot jumper and that bodes well. If we run the offense and use her to post up or if she can sit at the foul-line extended and take her player to the hoop, then she can be good in the half court as well. It may not always be conventional, but can be effective nonetheless. Not sure if Geno will like the unconventional part though.
3. Agree on AM, Liv and the rest. AE is going to have a breakout game soon. Very quick in the low post with strong body to go with it.
Thanks man. Upstate here. I am definitely in the minority on AG. I see a great athlete with limited basketball skills. On making the 15 footer, while she does have a tremendous percentage of makes, 1 for 1, I'm still not a believer she can be consistent. Secondly I don't think she can take her player to the hoop because she has a poor handle. She has a couple of uncontested drives to score. But from what I remember most of her points occur in a scramble for the ball under the hoop. There is a reason Geno told her last year to just rebound and pass and not to shoot. I'm also concerned for he BBIQ in a read and react offense. If you notice, when running up court on O, she typically ignores the ball and runs to a spot, turns and finds out what happened. Contrast that to AE who has her head on a swivel looking up court then over her shoulder. Something everyone has to do with Paige or E having the ball.
 
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I personally thought Anna’s and Aubrey’s game was just terrific. Let’s hope they both grow on this game and their confidence too.
I just love both of them! Hooray for Anna and Aubrey!
 
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Thanks man. Upstate here. I am definitely in the minority on AG. I see a great athlete with limited basketball skills. On making the 15 footer, while she does have a tremendous percentage of makes, 1 for 1, I'm still not a believer she can be consistent. Secondly I don't think she can take her player to the hoop because she has a poor handle. She has a couple of uncontested drives to score. But from what I remember most of her points occur in a scramble for the ball under the hoop. There is a reason Geno told her last year to just rebound and pass and not to shoot. I'm also concerned for he BBQ in a read and react offense. If you notice, when running up court on O, she typically ignores the ball and runs to a spot, turns and finds out what happened. Contrast that to AE who has her head on a swivel looking up court then over her shoulder. Something everyone has to do with Paige or E having the ball.
Hmmm. Other than she is limited in her BB skills or at least she hasn't shown a diversity of BB skills which I agree with, I don't agree with your other points.

1. She is one for one but I'm just happy she took it, looked good taking it and made it. Now, let's build on it. Maybe she can or maybe she can't. But since she looked really good with her form, I think she can do it with some success. I didn't even know she could shoot or would shoot in that situation. I do think she is more comfortable as a movement player where she scores on the move and not just taking a jumper...I'm not sure she feels very comfortable taking jump shots...but she looked good with the one she took and made.
2. I think she has a good handle. I've see her in the open court with the ball and moving faster to the hoop than the players chasing her. Anyway, FT line to hoop is two dribbles. Do you really think she can't do that?
3. She doesn't always ignore the ball when running up the court. Sometimes she has been the recipient of passes for the finish.
4. If there are times she runs to a spot, could it be Geno telling her to do so?

She may be a one trick pony now, but is it possible that that one jumper is the start of something more????

Anyway we can agree to disagree.

If she can hit that jumper with consistency, I think she can be AA. But, as you said and I agree with, it is only one.

I also forgive you for being from upstate SC...:):)
 
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CW appears to struggle with her confidence, which to us mere mortals seems silly because she is in a enormously gifted athlete. She just needs to develop no conscience. Don’t worry about the last play just make the next one. I’d also like to see Geno run more please to get her open looks in the corners. She can make those shots if she has time to sit her feet. Likewise, I’d like to see her taking the ball to hoop off screens. She’s fast enough to make those plays.

She’s a good player. She just needs to believe in herself and not compare herself to anyone else.
Problem is she is a #1 recruit and her own expectations is to be a WNBA player. A good player is not enough (in her eyes). She has to get it into her head that she is the best player on the court and her opponents can't compete with her. It is just a mindset
 
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CW appears to struggle with her confidence, which to us mere mortals seems silly because she is in a enormously gifted athlete. She just needs to develop no conscience. Don’t worry about the last play just make the next one. I’d also like to see Geno run more please to get her open looks in the corners. She can make those shots if she has time to sit her feet. Likewise, I’d like to see her taking the ball to hoop off screens. She’s fast enough to make those plays.

She’s a good player. She just needs to believe in herself and not compare herself to anyone else.
You stated it well; she is very talented and a “good” player. Her aspirations of wanting to become “legendary”, (her own words) though, are sadly not going to come to fruition. I would like to see her become more effective with the pick and roll and give and go, etc.; she has little chance of becoming deadly from the arc.
 
My thoughts:

  • I expect ONO and CWill to bounce back. I think Cwill was a little down on herself and you could see it on her face and the fact that she was pushed to be back in at the start of the second half you could tell she was not all there today. I've been tough on Cwill in the past but I do like how's shes played the majority of the games this year.
  • ONO is irreplaceable because she affects that middle of the paint so much and demands doubles with inferior teams. Although she's improved, I think we just have to understand that she will never be like Pheesa around the rim and she will miss some layups she has no business missing. As a junior I think she can improve a bit more, but I've tempered my expectations a bit when it comes to her game against solid or very good post players. Hope she proves me wrong.
  • Paige - Best dang player in the college today - not much more to say
  • Makarut - When she looks to shoot it just makes our team so much different, previous games not a threat at all on offensive end and working so hard on the defensive end has gotten her out of rhythm. She solid on defense, but her contribution is adding passing, better flow and movement on the offensive end and another shooter. I hope that she can build on this...
  • AG-This is what's shes capable of, but until i see 2,3,4 etc games in a row of a consistent game I just dont know what we will get from her game in and game out.
  • Mir & Muhl played with great effort. Feel bad for Muhl, her offensive skills are much worse than I thought and Mir has a great feel around the basket, just a little out of control at times
  • Evina - Love her game. She's getting better and I believe she will be a key factor for us going down the stretch. She has scoring ability at all three levels and plays very good defense. Her knees has limited her play at the moment to reach her max potential but I am pleasantly surprised by her as a player and teammate
  • AE - I thought she played ok. She's got a lot of talent. Hoping she can get better as the season goes on because we haven't really played anyone with significant size or a strong defensive team with athletes
  • Piath is so raw but like that Geno is at least giving her some minutes
 
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