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Providence Is A Good Team

Can we stop with the ___ is a good team bulls^t, please? Someone did it after the Xavier ass kicking too. Lets not make this a thing. We got taken to the woodshed twice in a week. Even in the win before that we had our prized big man leave with less teeth than he checked in with. It's about time we have someone step up and claim a few chiclets of our own.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
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Big East Prediction thread heading into conference play

I know there are a handful of OOC games left. Either they don't matter (those involving Depaul) or I am assuming the Big East team will win. Records and NET numbers are as of Noon on 12/14. 1) UConn (11-0, 1 NET) - #1 in NET and KenPom. First six weeks could not have gone any better. The...
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Until a promised 3rd prediction materializes, here's the Post-OOC Prediction thread to answer your query. I lauded the OP, some follow-ups, and the additional thoughtful posts that issued forth as solid work.

Here, I've provided the link to express admiration for your comments offered in this thread. In addition to responding to the direct challenges that have come your way, your integrity in openly representing as a PC fan shines brighter when contrasted with offers who feel the need to play it differently. It'd be ungenerous for me to take note and remain silent.

Of course it helps that Providence won, but being a good winner is part of the package.

PS - If you're not going to read the full thread, at least take a peak at post #20.
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Appreciate it, sincerely. I was simply giving him a chance to revise and I even mentioned it to him that he might want to. But as usual he will go down with the ship on that prediction and then tell us we can’t read properly, along with a “scoreboard!” In there for prosperity. It’s so old, anyone that has posted here for any length of time knows the game.
 
Rakkasan said:
Prov played uninspired basketball for the first stretch of their OOC. Lost (and looked bad) to the 3 quality opponents they faced. To someones point earlier, it wasn't that they lost but how they lost. From their URI game on they, for the most part, have played very solid and improved every game. The Uconn game was probably their most complete game all season.

Uconn rode a 14 game wave and now has hit some adversity. Most teams do at some point in the season. Huskies are supremely talented. Prov seems to have hardened their identify on how they will play since their uninspired start. Anyone can be charming when the grass is green. How does this prticular Uconn team (and Hurley) come out after these 2 losses and 2 more tough games?
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They were lost. Bynum was not leading and the newbies didn’t know where they fit. In a nutshell, basketball is a team game, and teams need to figure out an identity and stick to it. Starting with URI, they have figured it out and have stuck to it. You can call the first 8 games uninspiring and you wouldn’t be wrong. I think it’s as simple as they sucked.
 
HuskyHawk said:
PC is good. I thought they were underrated preseason. But they arenn’t as good as UConn. Not top ten good. The skill level isn’t there. Still a dangerous team in any given game.
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That’s some condescending crap right there. Tell me about your backcourt talent again? Outside of Hawkins, who is a great talent, the rest of your backcourts skill level isn't there. (Read that somewhere and it applies) I wouldn’t trade a single one of them for any one in our backcourt. Our two freshman outplayed them the majority of the 2nd half. Tell me why I’m wrong.

You don’t have a single player as talented as Hopkins to boot. Spare me the talent difference crap. You got some players that can jump high. Congrats.
 
One more thing, I decided to watch and count the number of times a player with the dribble went into the paint from outside of it.

1st 10 minutes of the first half. 9 times a UConn player dribbled with the ball into the lane. 11 times a PC player dribbled into the lane

2nd 10 minutes of the first half. 11 times UConn did it and 11 times PC did it.

1st 10 minutes of the 2nd half. 9 times UConn did it, and 14 times PC.

Last 10 minutes of game. 6 times for UConn and 10 for PC

UConn 34 times UConn dribbled drove into the paint. PC did it 45 times.

So 45-34 PC

Fouls were 27-20 UConn

Couple observations. Watching intently of another team gives an interesting perspective. Newton really tried, although as the game slipped, UConn resorted to shooting 3’s (coaching) Newton was responsible for many of UConn’s dribble drives before that time period. Hawkins scored or was fouled almost every time he did it. Sanogo had many chances and didn’t much try and Jackson should have done it much more, he must look for his own offense and it’s not chucking 3’s. Essentially, I think he has to be more like Hopkins who was relentless. Finally I was surprised how effective Locke was off the dribble as well.
 
FriarJ said:
One more thing, I decided to watch and count the number of times a player with the dribble went into the paint from outside of it.

1st 10 minutes of the first half. 9 times a UConn player dribbled with the ball into the lane. 11 times a PC player dribbled into the lane

2nd 10 minutes of the first half. 11 times UConn did it and 11 times PC did it.

1st 10 minutes of the 2nd half. 9 times UConn did it, and 14 times PC.

Last 10 minutes of game. 6 times for UConn and 10 for PC

UConn 34 times UConn dribbled drove into the paint. PC did it 45 times.

So 45-34 PC

Fouls were 27-20 UConn

Couple observations. Watching intently of another team gives an interesting perspective. Newton really tried, although as the game slipped, UConn resorted to shooting 3’s (coaching) Newton was responsible for many of UConn’s dribble drives before that time period. Hawkins scored or was fouled almost every time he did it. Sanogo had many chances and didn’t much try and Jackson should have done it much more, he must look for his own offense and it’s not chucking 3’s. Essentially, I think he has to be more like Hopkins who was relentless. Finally I was surprised how effective Locke was off the dribble as well.
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One thing you didn't mention was the free throw discrepancy. If we drove the ball about 75-80% of how often your team did, shouldn't the free throws attempted be close to the same? Instead you shot almost double the free throws we did.

It's not the end of the world, we all know Hurley is psychotic and too hard on the refs and this is their way of letting him know they're not going to take it anymore, Jeff Goodman said as much last week. Honestly I doubt we would have won anyway even if the whistle was closer, we missed a ton of jump shots and didn't have an answer for Hopkins. I also expect the home team to get a handful of calls most of the time, and we looked a little rattled by the crowd at times in the 2nd half. I'm looking forward to making some adjustments and seeing how the return game goes next month.
 
Hay FriarJ - Good team, good game, good Coach. You seem intelligent and I have enjoyed your (some) posts. Posting at 1:45 AM days after a game demonstrates your deep insecurities about our program. You are now acting like a house guest that has stayed far too long. Time for you to go. We have other business to deal with.
 
Malamute said:
Hay FriarJ - Good team, good game, good Coach. You seem intelligent and I have enjoyed your (some) posts. Posting at 1:45 AM days after a game demonstrates your deep insecurities about our program. You are now acting like a house guest that has stayed far too long. Time for you to go. We have other business to deal with.
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I’m in a time zone 4 hours away
 
Rico444 said:
One thing you didn't mention was the free throw discrepancy. If we drove the ball about 75-80% of how often your team did, shouldn't the free throws attempted be close to the same? Instead you shot almost double the free throws we did.

It's not the end of the world, we all know Hurley is psychotic and too hard on the refs and this is their way of letting him know they're not going to take it anymore, Jeff Goodman said as much last week. Honestly I doubt we would have won anyway even if the whistle was closer, we missed a ton of jump shots and didn't have an answer for Hopkins. I also expect the home team to get a handful of calls most of the time, and we looked a little rattled by the crowd at times in the 2nd half. I'm looking forward to making some adjustments and seeing how the return game goes next month.
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Not at all, as has been mentioned many times, Hopkins in particular sought contact when in the lane. UConn tried to avoid it many times.
 
FriarJ said:
One more thing, I decided to watch and count the number of times a player with the dribble went into the paint from outside of it.

1st 10 minutes of the first half. 9 times a UConn player dribbled with the ball into the lane. 11 times a PC player dribbled into the lane

2nd 10 minutes of the first half. 11 times UConn did it and 11 times PC did it.

1st 10 minutes of the 2nd half. 9 times UConn did it, and 14 times PC.

Last 10 minutes of game. 6 times for UConn and 10 for PC

UConn 34 times UConn dribbled drove into the paint. PC did it 45 times.

So 45-34 PC

Fouls were 27-20 UConn

Couple observations. Watching intently of another team gives an interesting perspective. Newton really tried, although as the game slipped, UConn resorted to shooting 3’s (coaching) Newton was responsible for many of UConn’s dribble drives before that time period. Hawkins scored or was fouled almost every time he did it. Sanogo had many chances and didn’t much try and Jackson should have done it much more, he must look for his own offense and it’s not chucking 3’s. Essentially, I think he has to be more like Hopkins who was relentless. Finally I was surprised how effective Locke was off the dribble as well.
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now, that's data. useful and sentient, with no deep doodoo analysis of arm angles and such. bingo, bango.
and,
Newton really tried,
yeppers. obvious.
one point tho, You don’t have a single player as talented as Hopkins to boot. mebbe, mebbe not. hop is oh, so sweet. danny said 'we watched the tape and he scared us.' of course, another dopey danny comment.
not cool. i am of the opinion that donno may be the one. if the draft were today, he is the only one that could go higher than hop. ur guard opinion is also spot on with our move to replace jalen and corey with mr oldman can't shot and mr. can't brake. hey gang! where are all those lazerlike gushings on these two from yestermonth. it's now January, halfway thru, and i've seen absolutely zero, squattola, from both. not interested in doing the 'bbut, bbut tomorrow!' thing again. in the real world, there is a yuge diff between 'speculation' and 'investment.' all i got is hanging the label "Sir Stop Touching Me' on typo years ago, joshy is wonderful, jmoney leading his squad to unprecedented heights, and corey now just beginning his career in a big way by dropping a death bomb 3 on danny. and us.
kudos mr 'getaway place in Alaska.'
now, that's gettin away. prolly a great help in thinking clearly.
 
Rewatched PC game and their game today I’m not sure that style of play will travel well, meaning in tournament. Reminds me of Leprechauns teams at Cincy. PC needs calls going their way to win, which they can get in the BE.
 
FriarJ said:
That’s some condescending crap right there. Tell me about your backcourt talent again? Outside of Hawkins, who is a great talent, the rest of your backcourts skill level isn't there. (Read that somewhere and it applies) I wouldn’t trade a single one of them for any one in our backcourt. Our two freshman outplayed them the majority of the 2nd half. Tell me why I’m wrong.

You don’t have a single player as talented as Hopkins to boot. Spare me the talent difference crap. You got some players that can jump high. Congrats.
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Talented could mean a number of things, but it seems ridiculous to suggest we have nobody that talented on our roster.

He’s averaging less points and a lower TS% than Sanogo. Rebounding numbers are almost even per 40 minutes. Adama splitting time with Clingan is hurting his normal averages.

And I know you’ll say it’s because Hopkins will play in the NBA while Sanogo probably won’t. But that’s not because of skill/talent at the college level. Hopkins is just built for the NBA game better.

Meanwhile Hawkins is almost assuredly going to be picked higher in the draft than Hopkins, if that’s the route you’re going to argue.

Clingan might have the best size adjusted athleticism in college basketball. Scouts have called him a possible 1 and done.

Andre might be the best athlete in college basketball, which is an aspect of “talent.”

But if none of this addresses what you meant by “talent,” let me know.
 
Huskyforlife said:
Talented could mean a number of things, but it seems ridiculous to suggest we have nobody that talented on our roster.

He’s averaging less points and a lower TS% than Sanogo. Rebounding numbers are almost even per 40 minutes. Adama splitting time with Clingan is hurting his normal averages.

And I know you’ll say it’s because Hopkins will play in the NBA while Sanogo probably won’t. But that’s not because of skill/talent at the college level. Hopkins is just built for the NBA game better.

Meanwhile Hawkins is almost assuredly going to be picked higher in the draft than Hopkins, if that’s the route you’re going to argue.

Clingan might have the best size adjusted athleticism in college basketball. Scouts have called him a possible 1 and done.

Andre might be the best athlete in college basketball, which is an aspect of “talent.”

But if none of this addresses what you meant by “talent,” let me know.
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Hopkins was a very highly rated high school player, who seems to be coming into his own. He may be the most talented of any of the players btw UConn and PC.

It is hard to 100% agree but it’s an argument that can be made.

I wouldn’t take him on UConn ahead of Jackson, but I wouldn’t mind him at the four, and I love Karabans potential (and production).

As for the rest of his drivel, he’s off his meds.
 
FriarJ said:
That’s some condescending crap right there. Tell me about your backcourt talent again? Outside of Hawkins, who is a great talent, the rest of your backcourts skill level isn't there. (Read that somewhere and it applies) I wouldn’t trade a single one of them for any one in our backcourt. Our two freshman outplayed them the majority of the 2nd half. Tell me why I’m wrong.

You don’t have a single player as talented as Hopkins to boot. Spare me the talent difference crap. You got some players that can jump high. Congrats.
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You were doing so well.

You’re reading a lot into that one game. But thank you, I believe you guys made us a better team. We’ll see you soon.

Go back to wherever PC fans go
 
Providence has had a soft schedule to open their season. UCONN has had a tough schedule to open their season with the final stretch this Wednesday @Marquette. Providence just pulled one out at home against a very bad St. John’s team (we did the same with GTOWN but won by 11, not 3.) Providence has 7 days to get ready for @Creighton and then it’s on to @Marquette, DePaul at home, Butler at home, @NOVA, and @ Xavier. Two “easy” get right games sandwiched at home in between 4 tough road games. It’ll be interesting to see how Providence does in the toughest part of their schedule.
 
formerlurker said:
Can we stop with the ___ is a good team bulls^t, please? Someone did it after the Xavier ass kicking too. Lets not make this a thing. We got taken to the woodshed twice in a week. Even in the win before that we had our prized big man leave with less teeth than he checked in with. It's about time we have someone step up and claim a few chiclets of our own.
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Make up your mind. Posters get crap for criticizing UCONN’s play, and they also get crap for complimenting an opposing team.
 
AntG168 said:
FriarJ said:
That’s some condescending crap right there. Tell me about your backcourt talent again? Outside of Hawkins, who is a great talent, the rest of your backcourts skill level isn't there. (Read that somewhere and it applies) I wouldn’t trade a single one of them for any one in our backcourt. Our two freshman outplayed them the majority of the 2nd half. Tell me why I’m wrong.

You don’t have a single player as talented as Hopkins to boot. Spare me the talent difference crap. You got some players that can jump high. Congrats
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You were doing so well until this post. Your backcourt played very well Carter plays hard but gets away with murder. Holds everyone coming off picks basically all game. Your PG is make or break he’s not very good. Locke played out of his butt hasn’t looked all that good until this game but that’s good timing. Hopkins is a real nice player I would take him over most anyone we have. Croswell had an unofficial triple double they just didn’t call all of his fouls, another clutcher pushed and grabber.

But hey you guys are good tough. Reality will set in I have no doubt. But enjoy the ride.
 
mauconnfan said:
You were doing so well until this post. Your backcourt played very well Carter plays hard but gets away with murder. Holds everyone coming off picks basically all game. Your PG is make or break he’s not very good. Locke played out of his butt hasn’t looked all that good until this game but that’s good timing. Hopkins is a real nice player I would take him over most anyone we have. Croswell had an unofficial triple double they just didn’t call all of his fouls, another clutcher pushed and grabber.

But hey you guys are good tough. Reality will set in I have no doubt. But enjoy the ride.
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This is some world class whining here. You put it into almost every sentence. The absolute epitome of the whining that now infects this fan base. It’s sad to watch a 4 time NC fan base act like everything is against them. The AAC did a number on you guys.
 
FriarJ said:
This is some world class whining here. You put it into almost every sentence. The absolute epitome of the whining that now infects this fan base. It’s sad to watch a 4 time NC fan base act like everything is against them. The AAC did a number on you guys.
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You seem confused every time the board doesn’t give you a tongue bath. This place allows a forum for visiting fans to interact and even criticize the host team, which is far more than the circle jerk Coren runs.
 

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