Pros & Cons to Danny riding the refs.

[MTBingNinja]

Really enjoyed Rob Dauster’s recent insights on Dan Hurley’s penchant with riding the refs on his recent Top Dogs Podcast. I well know this is a sensitive issue on The BY. Appreciate Rob’s “If he’s not nutz he’s not one of us”. At the end of the day, I recall Dan Hurley mentioning in a post-championship article that he learned from his past experience with riding the refs that it’s not in the team’s favor. Feel like he’s back to his old ways, thought he was going to temper himself a bit more this season. Regardless, In Carpenter We Trust.

 

[TheHorde]

Really enjoyed Rob Dauster’s recent insights on Dan Hurley’s penchant with riding the refs on his recent Top Dogs Podcast. I well know this is a sensitive issue on The BY. Appreciate Rob’s “If he’s not nutz he’s not one of us”. At the end of the day, I recall Dan Hurley mentioning in a post-championship article that he learned from his past experience with riding the refs that it’s not in the team’s favor. Feel like he’s back to his old ways, thought he was going to temper himself a bit more this season. Regardless, In Carpenter We Trust.

Leagues and organizations need to demand performance and accountability from their officials and referees. The crew that blew the call in the Detroit Lions game a few weeks ago was removed from the playoffs. The NCAA should do the same with some of these crews and not let them officiate in the NCAA tournament.

 

[HuskyFich]

if it wins you 1 more game a year it’s worth it.

He hasn’t been T’d up yet this year either.

 

[bendm]

i really thought our problems with BE refs would be over after winning the chip and earning hurley and the program the respect we deserve. the fact that it hasnt is shocking. so i say F-it. dont let the zebras win. get a T every game until this boils over and the conference cant ignore it anymore.

 

[husky429]

Danny goes over the top for many calls that aren't that bad and is surprised when no one listens after actual bad calls. He also makes it weirdly personal compared to most other animated coaches. So the refs just don't listen to him any more. You can see it in real time... they do not care what he has to say. Overtly ignore him.

What we're seeing is a result of Hurley's actions. When you treat people like crap, you aren't going to get the benefit of the doubt when you plead for a review or something. He's not going to see a change in how refs react to him after 1 or 2 blow out games keeping his cool like some people think. It isn't about the chip or how many games we've won. They simply don't like Hurley. Some more than others, but it's clear as day.

That being said, I hate the zebras and thrive on the animosity. I'm all for it. Love it, in fact. Our coach is a psycho and I wouldn't have it any other way. I just think it's funny when folks act surprised the ref won't talk to our coach or we get some questionable calls against hs.

 

[Waquoit]

I just don't want him to lose his edge. I'm not a fan of riding the refs as a tactic. But a spontaneous outburst at a perceived bad call is part of the game. Like that held ball that almost took AK's head off.

 

[bendm]

What we're seeing is a result of Hurley's actions. When you treat people like crap, you aren't going to get the benefit of the doubt when you plead for a review or something.

but the issue is much bigger than a play here or there, it's the entire team getting screwed over on a nightly basis with the absurd disparity in FT shooting. i dont care if the refs dot like hurley but i do care that they are taking it out on the players

 

[NJHusky]

but the issue is much bigger than a play here or there, it's the entire team getting screwed over on a nightly basis with the absurd disparity in FT shooting. i dont care if the refs dot like hurley but i do care that they are taking it out on the players

At some point I would hope the AD starts talking to the commissioner/head of officiating.

The reffing around the AK injury is simply inexcusable

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

At some point I would hope the AD starts talking to the commissioner/head of officiating.

The reffing around the AK injury is simply inexcusable

This staff - and Hurley in particular - are so fanatical about literally every detail I would be stunned if it hasn't been a constant subject of conversation with the powers that be. This doesn't seem like the kind of staff that lets any detail go unaddressed. If we are thinking about anything you can guarantee that they have too.

 

[husky429]

but the issue is much bigger than a play here or there, it's the entire team getting screwed over on a nightly basis with the absurd disparity in FT shooting. i dont care if the refs dot like hurley but i do care that they are taking it out on the players

Playing politics with the refs is part of the game, even when you're coaching middle school. Has been since Calhoun still had black hairs on his head. It's as much a part of the game as developing talent or recruiting.

Someone in the AD needs to talk to the refs, particularly with that white haired turd, but Hurley also needs a reality check and a couple xannies if he expects anything to change. Two way street.

 

[Palatine]

Coaches that rode the refs, Calhoun, Knight, K.

Coaches that didn't ride the refs, Ollie.

 

[willie99]

I loved watching the GOAT work the sidelines, I hated watching sad puppy eyes, always wanted him to say something. Now I love Hurley during the games

I don't care what the refs like or not. I don't like them much either

Don't take any chit Danny, dish it my man. Whatever works for you

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Danny goes over the top for many calls that aren't that bad and is surprised when no one listens after actual bad calls.

This is the sense I’ve gotten too. He needs to be better about picking spots, because some of his blowups are over correct or 50/50 calls. I’m sure there’s a bit of boy who cried wolf going on with the refs.

 

[KingAG]

This is the sense I’ve gotten too. He needs to be better about picking spots, because some of his blowups are over correct or 50/50 calls. I’m sure there’s a bit of boy who cried wolf going on with the refs.

I see that from every coach. I think this narrative about Hurley is overblown at this point. The refs are just terrible. It has nothing to do with Hurley pouting. They suck

 

[uconnfan68]

Danny goes over the top for many calls that aren't that bad and is surprised when no one listens after actual bad calls. He also makes it weirdly personal compared to most other animated coaches. So the refs just don't listen to him any more. You can see it in real time... they do not care what he has to say. Overtly ignore him.

What we're seeing is a result of Hurley's actions. When you treat people like crap, you aren't going to get the benefit of the doubt when you plead for a review or something. He's not going to see a change in how refs react to him after 1 or 2 blow out games keeping his cool like some people think. It isn't about the chip or how many games we've won. They simply don't like Hurley. Some more than others, but it's clear as day.

That being said, I hate the zebras and thrive on the animosity. I'm all for it. Love it, in fact. Our coach is a psycho and I wouldn't have it any other way. I just think it's funny when folks act surprised the ref won't talk to our coach or we get some questionable calls against hs.

It’s a difficult job to ref a game, but when you get replays to watch and still blow calls… something else is definitely going on.

 

[Excalibur]

Coaches that rode the refs, Calhoun, Knight, K.

Coaches that didn't ride the refs, Ollie.

I think with Hurley it’s the relentlessness. Calhoun was absolutely brutal with officials, bouncing between intimidation and biting sarcasm. But it wasn’t constant. If Hurley would just save it for the really egregious calls, he’d be fine.

If officials aren’t afraid of being berated when they screw you, they will screw you. We learned that with Ollie.

 

[McLovin]

Pitino decided to weigh in on the topic…
https://x.com/nypost_brazille/status/1746289192953409684?s=46

 

[husky429]

Pitino decided to weigh in on the topic…
https://x.com/nypost_brazille/status/1746289192953409684?s=46

Pitino talking about "cheating" is rich.

 

[HooperScooper]

Pitino decided to weigh in on the topic…
https://x.com/nypost_brazille/status/1746289192953409684?s=46

That is funny. On so many levels.

 

[gars44]

Leagues and organizations need to demand performance and accountability from their officials and referees. The crew that blew the call in the Detroit Lions game a few weeks ago was removed from the playoffs. The NCAA should do the same with some of these crews and not let them officiate in the NCAA

You think i’s so easy to find refs? But I do get your point.

 

[TheHorde]

You think i’s so easy to find refs? But I do get your point.

They should all be graded. The worst ones shouldn’t get to officiate postseason games. The NFL clearly had enough officials to bench the crew that officiated that Lions game for the postseason.

 

[Fan1978]

I loved watching the GOAT work the sidelines, I hated watching sad puppy eyes, always wanted him to say something. Now I love Hurley during the games

I don't care what the refs like or not. I don't like them much either

Don't take any chit Danny, dish it my man. Whatever works for you

Its part of his job, must be done but not overdone. I think he is doing this year. At times last year he looked like an escaped mental patient. Get your point across without showing up refs. He is also doing a lot of hugging and arms around shoulders. Much better approach. Still not getting appropriate respect but trending better.

 

[Stinger92860]

Really enjoyed Rob Dauster’s recent insights on Dan Hurley’s penchant with riding the refs on his recent Top Dogs Podcast. I well know this is a sensitive issue on The BY. Appreciate Rob’s “If he’s not nutz he’s not one of us”. At the end of the day, I recall Dan Hurley mentioning in a post-championship article that he learned from his past experience with riding the refs that it’s not in the team’s favor. Feel like he’s back to his old ways, thought he was going to temper himself a bit more this season. Regardless, In Carpenter We Trust.

Alex needed 10 stiches and the refs told Dan Hurley they did not see anything. Something is amiss. They are either incompetent or they are out to get us at the expense of a solid young man’s face.

 

[bluestreak]

I don't think that his working the refs in general has anything to do with the treatment we get during games. JC was the master and certain refs showed their distain with calls against. Danny has at times taken it to a personal level. I don't remember JC shouting across court calling a man a frowning clown. That's something that a guy won't forget. Zebra or not.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

They should all be graded. The worst ones shouldn’t get to officiate postseason games.

Believe it or not that's how it works.

 

[Umami Zen]

There is a lot of poker playin' among BE coaches working the refs. Coaches know how to tweak Danny. They work the refs to their benefit so that Dan gets the T's or gets calls against him.The sooner he learns how to play poker the better. The more calls his guys are going to get.Pitino wrote the book.

 

[TheHorde]

Believe it or not that's how it works.

I hope then that the crew the other night that said they didn’t see how Karaban got gashed open won’t be doing the tournament. Maybe they thought he pulled a Mick Foley WWE move and cut himself open? Lol

 

[Rico444]

Pitino decided to weigh in on the topic…
https://x.com/nypost_brazille/status/1746289192953409684?s=46

He's clearly trying to get into Hurley's head.

 

[Bazz2014]

I think Hurley believes that the coach, and not the players, should be the voice of the team in dialogue with refs. I notice that our players very rarely pursue or argue with refs about individual calls. They’re not stoic- they react, they’ll throw their arms up after a no call or make a face, but overall, they have an almost professional air about the game.

The flip side of this is that Hurley ends up absolutely dogging the refs about every single thing. I swear he pursues a ref for discussion during every single timeout. And I agree with what others have said - I think some refs think it’s OTT and therefore tune him out.

Coaches who are most successful in “working” refs often find a handful of things that are truly impacting their team (I.e. they’re holding us on screens/ restricting freedom of movement, player X is pushing off everytime he initiates a move in the post, watch the 3 seconds cuz the center is parked in the paint the whole possession… etc.) and they point those specific gripes out to the refs. Those are the things you often see actually getting called after ref/coach discussions - aka, coach has successfully worked the ref. If Hurley has a problem with EVERYTHING… well they aren’t going to change the way they call the entire game to appease him, and some refs even seem to take it personally which can lead to us battling the officiating as well as the opponent.

I like that Hurley is all about defending his players during gametime. Players love when they know coach has their back. It’s probably just a matter of finding focal points and hammering those, rather than losing his mind over every individual call. Find the sweet spot between defending your kids and acting like a total nut job for 100% of the game.

But don’t lose ALL the psycho… a little bit of that Hurley spice is part of the UConn experience now

 

[HooperScooper]

I hope then that the crew the other night that said they didn’t see how Karaban got gashed open won’t be doing the tournament. Maybe they thought he pulled a Mick Foley WWE move and cut himself open? Lol

O.K. admit you stole that from Hurley.

“I got an explanation and it was that they’re not sure why he was bleeding, I don’t know, it was like a phantom… Maybe it was like wrestling back in the day where they cut themselves with a razor, Dusty Rhodes or (something),” UConn head coach Dan Hurley said after the game.

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