Prince Ali doing Prince Ali things again in EYBL

[his dudeness]

He's been playing out of position. some of you idiots need to calm down and respect the fact that KO wouldn't offer and accept a commitment from someone who can't play

 

[CallMeBruce]

He's been playing out of position. some of you idiots need to calm down and respect the fact that KO wouldn't offer and accept a commitment from someone who can't play

Every coach whiffs from time to time. Ollie's track record on this is very short, so it doesn't seem remotely unreasonable to me that it could happen here.

 

[tcf15]

Every coach whiffs from time to time. Ollie's track record on this is very short, so it doesn't seem remotely unreasonable to me that it could happen here.

True, but that's usually determined after the athlete's first or second year on campus. It's unusual to deem a 2015 recruit a bust when they are a year away from actually suiting up for a college team.

 

[sdhusky]

It's unusual to deem a 2015 recruit a bust when they are a year away from actually suiting up for a college team.

Not sure unusual is the right word.

Stupid. Idiotic. Moronic.

Those might be better choices

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

People like you knocked Terence Samuel before last year. People knocked Jeremy Lamb on here as well.

Jeremy Lamb was killing it during AAU season. I've said it before that I'm not basing my evaluation of a Turtle based on just his AAU stint rather it's more negative to what I already saw on film. Dud was probably the wrong word to use but he isn't going to be a special player. So sorry if I have a problem with having him over guys like Malik and JA like I said before. Do you guys think he's going to be better than those players? If not then I don't see what's wrong with the statement besides bad wording. Turtle looks like he's going to be a player who wouldn't really contribute until his 3rd or 4th year. When you have that in a class where you have guys who will probably want to come here and contribute right away AND go on to kill it in the league that's where I see the problem.

Terrence Samuels situation was also different. We weren't taking him over other highly rated guards. You can also see on film he was the typical New York guard who probably couldn't shoot but was excellent at finishing the basketball and distributing. He was also a big PG and not a combo tweener. Two completely different situations.

 

[7774]

Jeremy Lamb was killing it during AAU season. I've said it before that I'm not basing my evaluation of a Turtle based on just his AAU stint rather it's more negative to what I already saw on film. Dud was probably the wrong word to use but he isn't going to be a special player. So sorry if I have a problem with having him over guys like Malik and JA like I said before. Do you guys think he's going to be better than those players? If not then I don't see what's wrong with the statement besides bad wording. Turtle looks like he's going to be a player who wouldn't really contribute until his 3rd or 4th year. When you have that in a class where you have guys who will probably want to come here and contribute right away AND go on to kill it in the league that's where I see the problem.

Terrence Samuels situation was also different. We weren't taking him over other highly rated guards. You can also see on film he was the typical New York guard who probably couldn't shoot but was excellent at finishing the basketball and distributing. He was also a big PG and not a combo tweener. Two completely different situations.

I think people's problem is that you take a ton of your own opinions and assumptions and pretend like they are facts. But maybe that's just my problem with what you say.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

What in the world are you keeping real ? Your evaluation of a prospect based entirely on a boxscore of a glorified pick up run? Why don't you just calm down and realize you have nothing substantial to contribute here.
Look killing in eybl vs the best comp means a lot , but we may not be recruiting Jackson as a "star" player, you can't have 12 guys who expect 30 mpg signed

Why can't we be recruiting stars at the guard position when we are the hottest school for guards to go to right now or is going to be very soon? I want to be NBA U again like we were back in the mid-late 2000s. So sorry if I have higher expectations for a recruit than to be a 4 year player and help us win a title on a smaller scale and would prefer the recruit that could be a special player for the program who could help us when a title and go on to be a great ambassador for the program in the NBA to keep our great brand going.

I've said this here before that I won't be satisfied by just winning NCs every so often. I'm not just a college basketball or nba fan. I'm a basketball fan and I want uconn to dominate the whole aspect of this sport. So I would prefer the stars that Ollie can win with AND send them off to the NBA to become stars. This is where my opinion and logic stems from. Not just trusting Ollie to win NCs because that won't be a problem while he's here to me. Our program has the potential to be more than that.

 

[sdhusky]

I've said it before that I'm not basing my evaluation of a Turtle based on just his AAU stint rather it's more negative to what I already saw on film.

Ok. You broke down his highlight film?

Moron.

 

[sdhusky]

So sorry if I have higher expectations for a recruit than to be a 4 year player and help us win a title on a smaller scale and would prefer the recruit that could be a special player for the program who could help us when a title and go on to be a great ambassador for the program in the NBA to keep our great brand going.

Its not that we don't want the best players.

I just think that maybe Ollie is a better evaluator than you with your youtube highlight film.

Maybe you have a better BB mind but I'm still going to go with Ollie.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

I'm sorry if you

I think people's problem is that you take a ton of your own opinions and assumptions and pretend like they are facts. But maybe that's just my problem with what you say.

I'm sorry if you all felt like I say things as fact. Didn't mean it that way. I come here to talk basketball really but try to be as objective as possible because I'm used to arguing with friends who are Duke, UNC, and Texas fans. So I'm not as much of a homer as others on this board. But I did say in my last post how my posts are merely opinion (while my track record with discussions and future player assessment have been pretty good) so you guys don't have to agree with them. Just give your opinion on why you don't think mine is right.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

Its not that we don't want the best players.

I just think that maybe Ollie is a better evaluator than you with your youtube highlight film.

Maybe you have a better BB mind but I'm still going to go with Ollie.

I mean if we were always to go with "Coach is right" saying then what is the point of these message boards discussing what the program should be doing who should start,who should play more, etc etc.

A highlight film is a collection of the players best plays. You can still tell a lot from those especially when their best plays aren't that good. He shows off little athleticism and he doesn't seem very crafty with his dribble or his moves. He plays bad HS competition and now when he is playing other stars he is struggling. So sorry if I came to the conclusion that he won't be a special player or that good of a player here. If your a top 50 recruit and people think your going to be a 3-4 year player who would just be a nice role player or distributer then I'm sorry that's considered a bust or not living up to expectations. We don't know what will happen with this kid but we are allowed to make a fan observation. Doesn't mean it will be right either.

 

[sdhusky]

I mean if we were always to go with "Coach is right" saying then what is the point of these message boards discussing what the program should be doing who should start,who should play more, etc etc.

I think you are confused. I'm not going with Coach is right.

I going with You are an Idiot if you think you can break down a player from a youtube highlight video.

 

[sdhusky]

I'm used to arguing with friends who are Duke, UNC, and Texas fans.

I think they might be missing you. Feel free to spend more time with them.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

I think they might be missing you. Feel free to spend more time with them.

I'm away from school so we're no longer around each other. Thanks for the suggestion though. Can't handle any outside opinions? Even when given CLEAR reasoning behind them and no insults to you? Like I don't understand why a lot of the posters here can't just have discussions rather than dismissing someone and calling them a moron just because it's not a uconn popular opinion. Also yes I'm a uconn fan. I was born into a uconn family and grew up watching every game. Still try not to miss a game even when in school and this championship parade was the first one I missed because I was at school. I'm no less of a fan than you or anyone in here. If your older your history of the program probably extends further back but that's it.

 

[Inyatkin]

The problem here is pretending we know anything about anything based on mix tapes and AAU box scores.
It's not as simple as saying we trust the coaching staff, it's saying it's these people's jobs to know about these players. And they have a lot more to go on. Of course they get it wrong sometimes. But pretending to know anything definitive this far out, from this vantage point, is crazy.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I'm sorry I thought this thread was about prince Ali doing prince Ali things? Why are we discussing turtle?

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

The problem here is pretending we know anything about anything based on mix tapes and AAU box scores.
It's not as simple as saying we trust the coaching staff, it's saying it's these people's jobs to know about these players. And they have a lot more to go on. Of course they get it wrong sometimes. But pretending to know anything definitive this far out, from this vantage point, is crazy.

I mean I want to have a career in this sport so I study the game of basketball as a whole a lot. Not just UConn hoops. Just because it's someone's job doesn't mean they would be good at it either (not saying Ollie is not because he has been amazing thus far and I mean AMAZING) just like all these screw up nba franchises. Like I said before. We are fans, this is a message boards, at the end of the day are opinions mean nothing to what will actually happen, so why not express them?

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

I'm sorry I thought this thread was about prince Ali doing prince Ali things? Why are we discussing turtle?

That's my fault. Made a comment about turtle after the original post about him and the thread took a left turn.

 

[aceboon]

I mean I want to have a career in this sport so I study the game of basketball as a whole a lot. Not just UConn hoops. Just because it's someone's job doesn't mean they would be good at it either (not saying Ollie is not because he has been amazing thus far and I mean AMAZING) just like all these screw up nba franchises. Like I said before. We are fans, this is a message boards, at the end of the day are opinions mean nothing to what will actually happen, so why not express them?

No offense but guys who have careers in basketball don't study players by looking at edited highlight tapes or boxscores. I know you said that's where you eventually want to be but step #1 should be to stop trying to make educated evaluations based on these youtube vids.

 

[Inyatkin]

I shot hoops in my brother's driveway yesterday for a good hour. My mixtape will show a killer outside shot.

 

[7774]

Why can't we be recruiting stars at the guard position when we are the hottest school for guards to go to right now or is going to be very soon? I want to be NBA U again like we were back in the mid-late 2000s. So sorry if I have higher expectations for a recruit than to be a 4 year player and help us win a title on a smaller scale and would prefer the recruit that could be a special player for the program who could help us when a title and go on to be a great ambassador for the program in the NBA to keep our great brand going.

I've said this here before that I won't be satisfied by just winning NCs every so often. I'm not just a college basketball or nba fan. I'm a basketball fan and I want uconn to dominate the whole aspect of this sport. So I would prefer the stars that Ollie can win with AND send them off to the NBA to become stars. This is where my opinion and logic stems from. Not just trusting Ollie to win NCs because that won't be a problem while he's here to me. Our program has the potential to be more than that.

LOL. Hopefully you are a kid. For an adult to have such insanely unrealistic expectations and this big a sense of entitlement would be sad.

 

[Inyatkin]

I've said this here before that I won't be satisfied by just winning NCs every so often.

Can't believe I missed this line before. If there's ever been a good reason to ignore someone. Jesus.

 

[sdhusky]

Like I don't understand why a lot of the posters here can't just have discussions rather than dismissing someone and calling them a moron just because it's not a uconn popular opinion.

Actually, I was calling you a moron because you were writing moronic things not because they were unpopular.

Hope that clears things up.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

LOL. Hopefully you are a kid. For an adult to have such insanely unrealistic expectations and this big a sense of entitlement would be sad.

It's not unrealistic. Like Ollie said we don't chase championships. Championships chase us. We just won a championship after a being banned for a year and having a team with no mcdonalds all Americans or lottery picks (maybe potential lottery picks later but not this year). How is it unrealistic to think that if we bring in kids with more potential who are Mcdonalds All Americans that we can win championships and produce constant lottery picks so we can become a juggernaut program. I fully believe Ollie can do this. He knows how to develop players like Calhoun from the years spent with him and has been great in game from all the nba coaches he has played for under. He has an amazing personality, cosigns from the biggest stars in the nba, has now produced TWO amazing PGs that won championships and turned into 1st rounders despite their physical limitations, and is a great role model. What kid wouldn't want to play for him? You don't think we can become this juggernaut if we got kids without physical limitations that he would be able to coach up to be NBA All Stars? UNC used to do this as a program in the 90s-2000s winning championships and producing the lottery picks and nba greats. So sorry if I have high expectations for our program to be great and have a belief that Ollie could do this.

I don't think you guys realize just how special of a coach Ollie can be and how big our program can become over the next decade. It didn't feel good to constantly have multiple kids going in the lottery and watching them play well in the nba? Like I never heard of someone being an idiot for having high expectations for their program.

 

[James]

It's not unrealistic. Like Ollie said we don't chase championships. Championships chase us. We just won a championship after a being banned for a year and having a team with no mcdonalds all Americans or lottery picks (maybe potential lottery picks later but not this year). How is it unrealistic to think that if we bring in kids with more potential who are Mcdonalds All Americans that we can win championships and produce constant lottery picks so we can become a juggernaut program. I fully believe Ollie can do this. He knows how to develop players like Calhoun from the years spent with him and has been great in game from all the nba coaches he has played for under. He has an amazing personality, cosigns from the biggest stars in the nba, has now produced TWO amazing PGs that won championships and turned into 1st rounders despite their physical limitations, and is a great role model. What kid wouldn't want to play for him? You don't think we can become this juggernaut if we got kids without physical limitations that he would be able to coach up to be NBA All Stars? UNC used to do this as a program in the 90s-2000s winning championships and producing the lottery picks and nba greats. So sorry if I have high expectations for our program to be great and have a belief that Ollie could do this.

I don't think you guys realize just how special of a coach Ollie can be and how big our program can become over the next decade. It didn't feel good to constantly have multiple kids going in the lottery and watching them play well in the nba? Like I never heard of someone being an idiot for having high expectations for their program.

I think you took too much adderall this morning. Just slamming away at your touchscreen/keyboard , producing inane post after post...almost outdoing yourself with the troll/moronic vibe. Who are you even arguing with? The people that said its unfair to slam a teenager over such a small sample?