Pre Season Bracketology

[Vowelguy]

If UConn doesn't get a 1 seed then Dallas is very plausible with Lou (FW) and SoCar (Grnv) getting the other 2s.

 

[Vowelguy]

These preseason bracketology things are laughable to me. Sure it gives people something to talk about, but it's based on no data. You can make assumptions based on previous seasons and returning or incoming players. But no games have been played. Every year some teams are better than expected and some worst than expected.

Yeah, outside of these preseason items, nothing about sports analysis is ever about speculation.

 

[nwhoopfan]

How the PAC 12 could get three #1 Seeds. How the Pac-12 could make history with three No. 1 seeds

Even as a big Pac 12 fan, there's NO WAY they will get 3 #1 seeds. Even 2 would be quite a coup. There's going to be more than 1 other #1 seed among Baylor, UConn and ACC/SEC champs (or maybe Maryland if they have a really, really good season).

 

[triaddukefan]

Greensboro gets a regional again this year .... wonderful

Are you sure about Greenville. The arena here maxes out at about 10,000 for basketball.
2020 NCAA tournament schedule and locations:

DATES	ROUND	CITY, STATE	HOST(S)	FACILITY
March 15	Selection Sunday	N/A	N/A	N/A
March 17-18	First Four	Dayton, OH	University of Dayton	UD Arena
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	Albany, NY	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	Times Union Center
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	Spokane, WA	University of Idaho	Spokane Veterans Memorial Arena
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	St. Louis, MO	Missouri Valley Conference	Enterprise Center
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	Tampa, FL	University of South Florida	Amalie Arena
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Greensboro, NC	Atlantic Coast Conference	Greensboro Coliseum
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Omaha, NE	Creighton University	CenturyLink Center Omaha
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Sacramento, CA	Sacramento State University	Golden 1 Center
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Cleveland, OH	Mid-American Conference/Cleveland State	Quicken Loans Arena
March 26/28	Midwest Regional	Indianapolis, IN	Horizon League/IUPUI	Lucas Oil Stadium
March 26/28	West Regional	Los Angeles, CA	Pepperdine University	STAPLES Center
March 27/29	South Regional	Houston, TX	University of Houston	Toyota Center
March 27/29	East Regional	New York, NY	St. John’s University/Big East Conference	Madison Square Garden
April 4/6	Final Four	Atlanta, GA	Georgia Institute of Technology

The arena in Greenville seats more than that for basketball. Probably around 15,000 or so.

 

[mbr33ct]

When was the last time Stanford stayed out in the West? Interesting 8 (Rutgers) / 9 (Tenn) match at Maples Pavilion. The other 8 (Duke) / 9 (Gonzaga) at Oregon...yikes. If this bracketology does stay course, will Oregon St survive to take on UConn. (lot's of interest in this match on the Boneyard)

 

[Vowelguy]

When was the last time Stanford stayed out in the West? Interesting 8 (Rutgers) / 9 (Tenn) match at Maples Pavilion. The other 8 (Duke) / 9 (Gonzaga) at Oregon...yikes. If this bracketology does stay course, will Oregon St survive to take on UConn. (lot's of interest in this match on the Boneyard)

The recent rule that conference teams in the top 4 have to be in different regions (unless of course there's more than 4) means if you're not the top PAC team, you're sent east.

2019 Chicago #2
2018 Lexington #4
2017 Lexington #2
2016 Lexington #4
2015 OKC #4
2014 Stanford #2

 

[SCspur]

Hard for me to imagine SC not being in Greenville.

 

[HuskylnSC]

Is the above the men's locations? The women's final four is in New Orleans this year.

Regardless -- Future Dates & Sites | NCAA.com

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You're Right!! I grabbed the men's. Hot dog. I've got to start saving my nickles and dimes. If UConn comes here, you are going to love Greenville!

 

[Argonaut]

You're Right!! I grabbed the men's. Hot dog. I've got to start saving my nickles and dimes. If UConn comes here, you are going to love Greenville!

I'll go regardless -- I had a great time in Greensboro last year -- it would just be that much sweeter for me if UConn was there, too.

 

[HuskylnSC]

I'll go regardless -- I had a great time in Greensboro last year -- it would just be that much sweeter for me if UConn was there, too.

Greensboro doesn't hold a candle to Greenville. One of the top downtowns in the US. World class restaurants. #YeahthatGreenville

 

[Monte]

Are you sure about Greenville. The arena here maxes out at about 10,000 for basketball.
2020 NCAA tournament schedule and locations:

DATES	ROUND	CITY, STATE	HOST(S)	FACILITY
March 15	Selection Sunday	N/A	N/A	N/A
March 17-18	First Four	Dayton, OH	University of Dayton	UD Arena
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	Albany, NY	Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference	Times Union Center
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	Spokane, WA	University of Idaho	Spokane Veterans Memorial Arena
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	St. Louis, MO	Missouri Valley Conference	Enterprise Center
March 19/21	1st/2nd Rounds	Tampa, FL	University of South Florida	Amalie Arena
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Greensboro, NC	Atlantic Coast Conference	Greensboro Coliseum
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Omaha, NE	Creighton University	CenturyLink Center Omaha
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Sacramento, CA	Sacramento State University	Golden 1 Center
March 20/22	1st/2nd Rounds	Cleveland, OH	Mid-American Conference/Cleveland State	Quicken Loans Arena
March 26/28	Midwest Regional	Indianapolis, IN	Horizon League/IUPUI	Lucas Oil Stadium
March 26/28	West Regional	Los Angeles, CA	Pepperdine University	STAPLES Center
March 27/29	South Regional	Houston, TX	University of Houston	Toyota Center
March 27/29	East Regional	New York, NY	St. John’s University/Big East Conference	Madison Square Garden
April 4/6	Final Four	Atlanta, GA	Georgia Institute of Technology

This is not the women's 2020 schedule

 

[Ozimoto]

In any event, the purpose of these articles is to generate interest in the season and to provide points of discussion, which it obviously has. I seriously doubt that this bracketology ages well over the course of the season.

 

[Centerstream]

Greensboro doesn't hold a candle to Greenville. One of the top downtowns in the US. World class restaurants. #YeahthatGreenville

Yeah Greensboro must really s*ck because nobody ever picks them to hold their tournament games there.

 

[triaddukefan]

Greensboro doesn't hold a candle to Greenville. One of the top downtowns in the US. World class restaurants. #YeahthatGreenville

You DIDN't have to take it there

I love downtown Greenville.......and I think the arena location is close to ideal. Main Street and Falls Park are tremendous. @Argonaut I personally recommend lunch at the Lazy Goat on the patio... overlooking the "River".... followed by a few fried candy bars from FunnelDelicious. Hammercy.

 

[Vowelguy]

So...he has Tennessee projected as a #9 seed. He doesn't seem to believe a new coach will make much difference apparently.

They lost Meme, C Greene, Westbrook, and Collins.
Add Horston, injured last year Lou Brown, Aussie guard Rennie, and 3 others.
That's a lot of turnover to deal with.

And despite what folks say, there is some, but not a ton, of talent.
Horston, Z Green, Davis = yes.
KK, Massengill = top 20 HS
Harris = no
other 6 = who knows (none highly rated)

 

[MilfordHusky]

Was KK a consensus top 20, or that high with just 1 service?

 

[Vowelguy]

Was KK a consensus top 20, or that high with just 1 service?

#11 PN & #57 ESPN. Not sure about rest.

 

[eebmg]

I found it interesting that the promo picture used on ESPN to introduce the Bracketology was Evina in UConn uniform. I imagine this is a factor in Creme's analysis. Not implying he has any inside info.

 

[bballnut90]

Texas A&M a 3 seed? No way! My top seeds this early would be Oregon, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Stanford.

A&M over UCONN?

 

[bballnut90]

They lost Meme, C Greene, Westbrook, and Collins.
Add Horston, injured last year Lou Brown, Aussie guard Rennie, and 3 others.
That's a lot of turnover to deal with.

And despite what folks say, there is some, but not a ton, of talent.
Horston, Z Green, Davis = yes.
KK, Massengill = top 20 HS
Harris = no
other 6 = who knows (none highly rated)

New coaching is everything for the LVs. And the trio of Horston, Green, and Davis could be stellar to build the team around. You dont need a roster of all top 5 recruits to do very well.

 

[Alydar]

New coaching is everything for the LVs. And the trio of Horston, Green, and Davis could be stellar to build the team around. You dont need a roster of all top 5 recruits to do very well.

No. But when you need 3 new players to be stellar it's not likely. (Although I expect Horston to be good out of the gate.

 

[LoTrader]

Even as a big Pac 12 fan, there's NO WAY they will get 3 #1 seeds. Even 2 would be quite a coup. There's going to be more than 1 other #1 seed among Baylor, UConn and ACC/SEC champs (or maybe Maryland if they have a really, really good season).

I also think that 3 x PAC-12 teams getting a #1 seed is impossible. I would be incredibly happy if there were 3 x PAC-12 Teams that earned a #1 or #2 seed in 2019-20 NCAA Tournament. The PAC can do lots of damage in the tournament as a #1 or #2 seed.

 

[LoTrader]

When was the last time Stanford stayed out in the West? Interesting 8 (Rutgers) / 9 (Tenn) match at Maples Pavilion. The other 8 (Duke) / 9 (Gonzaga) at Oregon...yikes. If this bracketology does stay course, will Oregon St survive to take on UConn. (lot's of interest in this match on the Boneyard)

Way to early to fantasize about NCAA Tournament match-ups, but I would absolutely love to see UCONN vs Oregon State.

 

[bballnut90]

No. But when you need 3 new players to be stellar it's not likely. (Although I expect Horston to be good out of the gate.

Green and Davis arent new. Davis is already very good and Green had bright spots as a frosh. I don't expect Tennessee to be a top team but I think there is good potential that they're significantly better this season.

 

[Lorcan]

I’ll echo others that unless the Pac does unbelievably well in OOC it’ll be hard to get three #1 seeds. Even then, you’d have to have Oregon State probably top the conference with Stanford and Oregon sweeping their OOC and splitting matchups. As long as we don’t have a repeat of the nightmare in Maples last season, I’ll be happy.

UConn is just as unknown (IMO) as most of these teams, and I think we’ll see the contenders shake them apart from the pretenders early on.

As far as the top 16, I’d wager that South Dakota could sneak in, but it’s hard to logically go against the usual suspects. I’m surprised he thinks so highly of Arkansas.


I have a hard time with Iowa. I know they lost a lot, but they still have Kathleen Doyle and Bluder’s been around the block. I have hope that she’ll figure things out and make this a tourney worthy team.