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politics said:
Just like what Diaco's making
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Why can't you understand that money isn't the sole factor? Miles would get the same or more from other programs - programs that are held in much higher standing and that have a much better chance to compete. This shouldn't be so difficult.
 
walker11 said:
Why can't you understand that money isn't the sole factor? Miles would get the same or more from other programs - programs that are held in much higher standing and that have a much better chance to compete. This shouldn't be so difficult.
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Also, the only P5 that pays their coach that little is Kansas.

The schools that pay in that range are: Connecticut, USF, Bosie, Fresno, Colorado State, North Texas and Tulane.
 
SonsOfNutmeg said:
Les Miles on coaching next season....

"I'm looking for a place dedicated to the players' achievement in the classroom and that wants to win championships," said Miles, who turned down television offers after his dismissal at LSU. "If there's an athletic director and president that wants to do that, I'm in line."

Tell me this doesn't sound like SH and Benedict??
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Miles' buyout requires him to seek another job. I question how much he really wants one. He won't win at a place where he doesn't have a huge talent advantage either.
 
walker11 said:
Why can't you understand that money isn't the sole factor? Miles would get the same or more from other programs - programs that are held in much higher standing and that have a much better chance to compete. This shouldn't be so difficult.
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You're right, it shouldn't be so difficult being a nattering nabob of negativism like all you low-bar types. Wonder what your mindset was in 1986 when Calhoun got hired.
 
politics said:
You're right, it shouldn't be so difficult being a nattering nabob of negativism like all you low-bar types. Wonder what your mindset was in 1986 when Calhoun got hired.
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Good hire of a successful coach at a lower division school that had not had much success prior to his arrival. Local guy who knows how to recruit the area.

And 1986 BB is much different than 2014 FB. So since you are comparing pomegranates to cantaloupes, you should try and give us some reason how Calhoun's hiring is even relevant to this conversation.
 
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politics said:
You're right, it shouldn't be so difficult being a nattering nabob of negativism like all you low-bar types. Wonder what your mindset was in 1986 when Calhoun got hired.
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Funny thing is you are probably too dense to realize you are arguing against hiring someone like Calhoun by saying we need to hire a big name and make a splash.
 
Is there that much recruitable talent in the CT area? Im out of the area and was curious on that statement. I have worked with a hs program in NC that has put players in S.Carolina, Tenn, Navy and UNC and NC State and consider ECU a real last resort for player improvement
 
chiller99.5 said:
Is there that much recruitable talent in the CT area? Im out of the area and was curious on that statement. I have worked with a hs program in NC that has put players in S.Carolina, Tenn, Navy and UNC and NC State and consider ECU a real last resort for player improvement
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No to be quite frank. The third smallest state in the union just doesn't have that many kids playing football.
 
The Dow futures being down 800 points is really the sharp stick in the eye.
 
Jerry1714 said:
Funny thing is you are probably too dense to realize you are arguing against hiring someone like Calhoun by saying we need to hire a big name and make a splash.
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Fair enough. Who's a Calhoun-like football coach out there at the mid-major level like Northeastern?
 
Jerry1714 said:
Funny thing is you are probably too dense to realize you are arguing against hiring someone like Calhoun by saying we need to hire a big name and make a splash.
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The larger point, dude, is that the minute Calhoun got on the campus he told everyone this was "do-able". Not one one of your posts suggests that you think UConn football is "do-able". So many examples of football programs that came out of nowhere (Boise, Kansas State, Northwestern for a while, even Miami in early 1980s). What's your endgame for football? Back to I-AA? MAC?
 
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politics said:
The larger point, dude, is that the minute Calhoun got on the campus he told everyone this was "do-able". Not one one of your posts suggests that you think UConn football is "do-able". So many examples of football programs that came out of nowhere (Boise, Kansas State, Northwestern for a while, even Miami in early 1980s). What's your endgame for football? Back to I-AA? MAC?
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Comparing the basketball program in 1986 to the football program now makes you sound like a huge crackpot
 
First, Diaco is here next season unless he decides not to be. He's not getting fired.

That said, I'd sign on for Morehead or Wilder in a heart beat. Forget "splashy" name hires. Both guys are/have been successful head coaches, both guys play an exciting brand of football, both guys have ties in the NE, and both guys would come in and win at UConn, bringing a more open style of offense that people have been pining for.

We won't hire either though.
 
weyuo said:
No to be quite frank. The third smallest state in the union just doesn't have that many kids playing football.
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Unless you are Texas or Florida you don't win by recruiting your home state anyway so available talent is not hugely relevant. You win by recruiting the 95 corridor and landing a few Florida kids and DEVELOPING the kids you have. And the goal isn't a national championship (if he is honest Calhoun will tell you that wasn't his at first either--doable meant competitive in the Big East). The goal is a consistent top 35ish program. Do that and from time to time you'll catch lightening in a bottle or land a Matt Ryan or Dan O and find yourself in the national conversation. That's the Boise model. Was the BC model and more or less the Houston and Navy models.
 
freescooter said:
Unless you are Texas or Florida you don't win by recruiting your home state anyway so available talent is not hugely relevant. You win by recruiting the 95 corridor and landing a few Florida kids and DEVELOPING the kids you have. And the goal isn't a national championship (if he is honest Calhoun will tell you that wasn't his at first either--doable meant competitive in the Big East). The goal is a consistent top 35ish program. Do that and from time to time you'll catch lightening in a bottle or land a Matt Ryan or Dan O and find yourself in the national conversation. That's the Boise model. Was the BC model and more or less the Houston and Navy models.
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And it's all any UConn fan would expect. We'd fill the Rent for a team like that. I don't think anyone is blind to our disadvantages.
 
freescooter said:
Unless you are Texas or Florida you don't win by recruiting your home state anyway so available talent is not hugely relevant. You win by recruiting the 95 corridor and landing a few Florida kids and DEVELOPING the kids you have. And the goal isn't a national championship (if he is honest Calhoun will tell you that wasn't his at first either--doable meant competitive in the Big East). The goal is a consistent top 35ish program. Do that and from time to time you'll catch lightening in a bottle or land a Matt Ryan or Dan O and find yourself in the national conversation. That's the Boise model. Was the BC model and more or less the Houston and Navy models.
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Boise State has competent QB play year in and year out though...
 
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HuskyHawk said:
And it's all any UConn fan would expect. We'd fill the Rent for a team like that. I don't think anyone is blind to our disadvantages.
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Right. And you know what? That's all 120 of the 128 schools playing 1A football can expect. If I asked you to name 8 teams every August from which the 4 teams will be chosen my guess is you would get 2 every year and all 4 75% of the time. For everybody else the goal is to get into the conversation occasionally. Like Memphis and Temple and Houston all have been in recent years.
 
politics said:
The larger point, dude, is that the minute Calhoun got on the campus he told everyone this was "do-able". Not one one of your posts suggests that you think UConn football is "do-able". So many examples of football programs that came out of nowhere (Boise, Kansas State, Northwestern for a while, even Miami in early 1980s). What's your endgame for football? Back to I-AA? MAC?
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Your posts get harder and harder to respond to, but I will try. Saying Les Miles will have better options than UConn is not saying UConn should go back to 1-AA, that leap is really something even for you.

Diaco walked in here and said it was "do-able" in fact he said it was a lot more than that, so again you Calhoun references are just off base.

UConn can be decent in football with hiring the right coach, but you need to realize that saying Miles will have better options is not setting the bar low or saying UConn has no chance at success, it is simply being realistic and having some understanding of where UConn is in the national landscape for football.
 
Jerry1714 said:
Saying Miles will have better options is not setting the bar low or saying UConn has no chance at success, it is simply being realistic and having some understanding of where UConn is in the national landscape for football.
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Again, not saying is Miles my only choice. My beef with you is how quickly you shot it out of the sky.

Now we're getting somewhere. How do you define "being decent in football"?
 
freescooter said:
Boise mostly gets system qbs who function well in what they want to do. And that is fine. I'd take it in a heartbeat.
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Having system QB to fit your system and be competent at in that system is the goal of every CFB team at the FBS I'd imagine... Something we have a hard time with.... We gotta fix that...
 
Can you really become "the next Boise" in the current CFB landscape?
 
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FartMan69 said:
Can you really become "the next Boise" in the current CFB landscape?
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Actually I think you can. Let's take Houston. All they have done is beat FSU last year and Oklahoma this year. Now 2 years in a row they have had wtf losses, to us last year and SMU this but if they come out next year and spank Arizona and Texas Tech they are there. Maybe they luck out and get a mid level ACC team in a bowl and smack them around this year. Or the beat Louisville. Who knows? Or Temple beats Notre Dame next year. Those are the type of wins that put and keep you in the limelight. I'd give an awful lot to beat Missouri next year even if they aren't going to be confused with Alabama
 
politics said:
Just like what Diaco's making
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You asked for minimum it is likely Miles pushes for $3mill plus look up the coaches making $4 mill and over and tell me all of them are better than miles
 
freescooter said:
Let's take Houston.
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Houston is a terrible example to compare UCONN to, they are located in Texas where you can field a top 25 team with just the recruits leftover after the Big12 is done recruiting the state. If you get a coach that can produce on the field and recruit, like Herman, you can field a national contender. The only non-P5 schools that have the potential to compete nationally would be those located in or around FL and TX, where the talent pool is large to draw from.
 
jazyj said:
You asked for minimum it is likely Miles pushes for $3mill plus look up the coaches making $4 mill and over and tell me all of them are better than miles
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But those guys over $4 million aren't in danger of losing their jobs, right?
 
politics said:
But those guys over $4 million aren't in danger of losing their jobs, right?
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Charlie Strong, James Franklin, Gus Malzhan, and Butch Jones have all been on the hot seat I don't understand your point, and
Bobby Petrino got $3.8 mill to go back to Louisville I guarantee someone will fork that over for miles
 
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