Post Mortem Army

[ASweet3781]

i have never seen defenses this bad. It’s actually a wonder of college football. Army could have scored 100 today……..ARMY!

Hopefully the next coach's charisma can fix it.

 

[JohnFSilver]

I am gonna be honest here, the QB looked like a dangerous and explosive player. That is much better than how Zergiotis and Krajewski looked. Tyler P Needs to work on his throwing of the ball out of the pocket and they need to learn about what arm strength he has and hasn’t.

But Do read option and RPOs all day and move the pocket. That’s what they need to do.

zergiotis has a terrific arm, and that’s something that coaches love because they can diagram plays all day and it stretches the defense. But, UConn can’t block on the o line and doing things like quick throws, RPOs and read-option stuff helps stop the defense from pinning their ears back and attacking the QB.

mid UConn had elite offensive line talent and good WRs, I would go with a guy with arm talent. But if you can’t block or catch, give me a running QB.

 

[247365]

What is everyone’s thoughts on coaches NOW need to relook at the guys on scout team and who have been buried by Edsall? Freshman guys seem to be better than the chance they are getting.

Edsall had TP on scout.

 

[06029]

UMass looks very, very winnable...

UMass...0-51 vs Pitt, 28-45 vs BC...and behind Eastern Michigan 7-21 in early 3rd qtr

You know UMass looks at UConn and thinks the same thing.

 

[Bongo Fury]

I guess we forgot how agile SK looked against Purdue. I do think he makes that throw, the kid was wide open, he just didn't have the arm to get it far enough

I don’t think TP would have done better against Purdue but think his mobility opens things up a little.

 

[jbdphi]

I guess we forgot how agile SK looked against Purdue. I do think he makes that throw, the kid was wide open, he just didn't have the arm to get it far enough

It seemed to me watching it live that TP put some loft on the ball and "soft tossed" it to avoid overthrowing him like JZ had done several times in the first few games and he underestimated the recovery speed of the Army DB.

I wasn't able to see the Purdue game (a bit of a blessing) so haven't seen how well / not well SK played. Consensus here after the game was that he had earned another start? Do we know if he was injured today or not? Very confusing.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I am gonna be honest here, the QB looked like a dangerous and explosive player. That is much better than how Zergiotis and Krajewski looked. Tyler P Needs to work on his throwing of the ball out of the pocket and they need to learn about what arm strength he has and hasn’t.

But Do read option and RPOs all day and move the pocket. That’s what they need to do.

zergiotis has a terrific arm, and that’s something that coaches love because they can diagram plays all day and it stretches the defense. But, UConn can’t block on the o line and doing things like quick throws, RPOs and read-option stuff helps stop the defense from pinning their ears back and attacking the QB.

mid UConn had elite offensive line talent and good WRs, I would go with a guy with arm talent. But if you can’t block or catch, give me a running QB.

While not great against Army's 1's, today was the OLine's best game as a unit. Fortin at C is such a huge upgrade. Lundt needs help at RT but that is manageable by a competent offensive staff.

 

[Life Is Good]

What you forget from this play is his scramble to avoid the sack. Yes he missed the throw. But JZ and SK don’t even create the opportunity to make that throw

Did you watch the Purdue game? SK avoided many sacks and scrambled for big gains or made the pass. Unfortunately, #5 was in his face all day. Is TP faster, absolutely but you need both an arm and legs. SK fits that bill better than anyone. He is the real deal

 

[Palatine]

Not true.

TP was much better than SK and I have long advocated SK over JZ.

On the short throw to the receiver down the left side TP was rolling left and throwing across his body. Had the receiver come back to the ball 3-5 yards, the WR makes the catch and it's a first down. Instead WR half asses the come back and allows DB to make the break up.

When TO has his feet underneath him he is very good. Rolling left he underthrows a ton. He's physically small and a true frosh. He can't consistently throw against his body. When. He rolls right, he flatter on his throws but gets plenty of zip.

No. To my eyes SK was much more poised in the pocket. Hit receivers (also had a TD dropped) and ran effectively. And he did it against a much better defense.

I would love it if TP was great. But he wasn't. And he not any better that SK, to my eyes he wasn't as good.

 

[metsfan2323]

And he did it against a much better defense.

That's debatable, let's not pretend Purdue is an elite defense, good certainly, but Army also plays tough defense. To me its a wash.

Army is very capable of beating Purdue head to head.

 

[MrHockey9]

Hunter Webb and TP...gets me to the game next week.

 

[blue93]

I thought TP looked awesome considering the circumstances. I don’t know what more you can expect from a true freshman with a limited supporting cast. There’s no doubt there’s something there.

With that being said… I hope he’s not our starter for the rest of the season. There’s no reason to play him in the last 3 games. The extra year we can potentially get out of him isn’t worth 3 pummelings.

On defense, we sucked. But Quay Evans and Hunter Webb deserve more meaningful time. They look like they want to hit people. Let them.

 

[Bomber36]

2 wins? In football? UMass is clearly better and Yale looked better than Holy Cross.

But they lost didn’t they? By the time we play Yale, I don’t think we will resemble the team that lost to HC. Because….no Randy.

 

[Husky92]

You know UMass looks at UConn and thinks the same thing.

Sad, but this our bowl game this year. Beat UMass or bust!

 

[BigTenFan]

I think it's great that the Service Academies can put together such tough teams.
I think we all forget the sacrifices that these cadets make to our country and their education. No way could most D1 student- athletes play at such a high level while taking such a rigorous course load.

 

[Rosebud70]

There’s the breakdown on offense. For team stats. Offense got more first downs and moved the ball much better against a much tougher opponent. Purdue’s back ups could probably compete possibly beat army’s back ups. Leave this out there for some thought

 

[Bomber36]

I think it's great that the Service Academies can put together such tough teams.
I think we all forget the sacrifices that these cadets make to our country and their education. No way could most D1 student- athletes play at such a high level while taking such a rigorous course load.

Definitely. I root for them anytime they aren’t playing UConn. They are our people and our defenders…the best of the best.

 

[scotty0330]

It's against Army's second team but it's pretty clear Tyler P can do a lot more things than the other 2 qb's. Who cares that he's a freshman, Edsall was a special kind of stubborn and stupid.

This might be the understatement of all time

 

[CL82]

Im gonna be honest, SK showed a lot more against a much better defense imo. I'm not blown away by TD runs against Army's backups.

Were you excited by the absence of QB touchdown runs against Purdue’s third string? No? Me either.

 

[SubbaBub]

Stockholm syndrome has arrived with a vengeance. Next we'll be searching for positives in hanging tough in the first half against Ms. Porters.

Temple was lot better when they were kicked out of the BE.

 

[blue93]

Stockholm syndrome has arrived with a vengeance. Next we'll be searching for positives in hanging tough in the first half against Ms. Porters.

Temple was lot better when they were kicked out of the BE.

UConn fans happy about UConn looking competent for the first time all year. The horror.

 

[ktuck911]

Jack Z should never throw another pass in a UConn uniform - maybe a receiver?

you get that feeling actually when you look at what Tyler P did today

 

[06029]

UConn fans happy about UConn looking competent for the first time all year. The horror.

There were positives but what was the score at halftime? I liked some of what I saw in the second half. But let’s not assume that it shows a sudden competence that will carry forward against any starting D Coming up on the schedule.

 

[ktuck911]

I also felt the the D didn’t realize how fast Army’s O really was. Playing against the scout team vs the real thing means taking better angles…we didn’t and that’s on the coaches.

Our defense was not properly prepared today. I agree, that's on coaching, or lack of...that urked me more than anything. LBers constantly out of place, bad angles, getting caught in the wash, late getting to the play. Thank God Monken put in his own mercy rule.

 

[ktuck911]

They could be a top 25 team their defense was ranked high last year and returned almost everyone. TP did pretty good job there
will be a big improvement after they get him to look at film this week. Hard to understand how secondary is so bad. I though when Perkins was brought in we would have had improvement but we seemed to regres.

Perkins????? As in Lew???? Huh????

 

[ktuck911]

Hunter Webb and TP...gets me to the game next week.

Hunter Webb got a crazy baptism today. He got stonewalled pretty good a lot today. I think the only time I saw him get penetration was when Monken went into mercy rule mode with his offense and kept running the same dive play. Glad to see him get some live game reps though.

 

[tzznandrew]

2 wins? In football? UMass is clearly better and Yale looked better than Holy Cross.

Sadly, if we get two wins this board will be desperate for Spanos to be the coach.

The bar is so low, we have the teams our fans deserve.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

No. To my eyes SK was much more poised in the pocket. Hit receivers (also had a TD dropped) and ran effectively. And he did it against a much better defense.

I would love it if TP was great. But he wasn't. And he not any better that SK, to my eyes he wasn't as good.

He was also in his first start...EVER.

Unless he totally craps the bed, you stick with him for the rest of the season. If JZ and SK haven't shown enough to be far ahead of a true freshman by now, they never will.

 

[blue93]

There were positives but what was the score at halftime? I liked some of what I saw in the second half. But let’s not assume that it shows a sudden competence that will carry forward against any starting D Coming up on the schedule.

I haven’t seen anybody making any giant leaps. We suck. I think that’s been established. God forbid people look for some bright spots.

 

[Bomber36]

Sadly, if we get two wins this board will be desperate for Spanos to be the coach.

The bar is so low, we have the teams our fans deserve.

That’s so wrong….if he can turn this bunch around, he at least deserves a look. A clean sweep just means another 2 years of this.