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Not sure I understand what Hurley’s substitution strategy was tonight. Seems like he was subbing just to get guys minutes instead of subbing based on who was playing smart and with effort.

He's been doing that all year. At some point, you guys will realize he is trying to figure out the roster more than he's trying to get a surprise NCAA bid.
 
How did the USF coach adjust with a far less talented team? Love Hurley, great hire but let’s be honest - he’s not off to a great start on the court. Fortunately his most important job this year (recruiting) is off to a great start.

Posted this in a diff. thread but thought it was more relevant here.

Minus a few good possessions by Alterique, Rideau got to the rim all night. He was the best player on the court tonight hands down. Our guards didn't have an answer for him defensively & our front court got absolutely manhandled on the boards. Remind me again how exactly are we the more talented team than USF?
 
You really want to die on the hill of "2016 #8 recruiting class", don't you.

I'm making the point that everyone keeps complaining about talent this and talent that..... then we lose to USF. To say that Jalen Adams, Gilbert, Polley, Wilson and Carlton (Xavier and Clemson offers btw) are awful and that poor Hurley just has nothing to work with is ridiculous. Lets get real ... the coaching has sucked... second half adjustments have been god awful. Hopefully he does what great coaches do and figures it out soon.

I want to add that this is on the players too.. they play undisciplined basketball. But that starts with coaching... Calhoun would throw walk ins in over super stars when deemed necessary.. and it often worked.
 
2nd half of Villanova: 19-0 run.
2nd half of USF: 22-7 or something.

He fails to make adjustments after the half. Sure the players are also playing like complete losers but come on man.
Adjust to what...??? The dude is no miracle worker, this is the same team from last year, even with the additions.. this team reflects bad habits from prior coaching staff and the lack of a big man or two is the Achilles heal of this team. You thought this was bad, wait until Cincy, UCF, etc..
 
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The minute the other team makes a run on us and the momentum shifts, we turtle up. This group of players are so weak mentally. They break so easily it's amost ridiculous. There is just zero mental toughness. They let their bad offense affect their defense and vice versa. It just snowballs and gets away from us. It's like Groundhog day.
 
Lackadaisical, if you prefer. Calhoun might say they lack intensity. They are not crisp. They need a hear transplant.

Watch the lazy passes. The failure to box out. No hard screens. Constantly beaten to the rim.

Riddle me this Batman. Who on this team would you describe as "tough?" Or mentally tough?
Vital is the only tough player. Jalen's attitude, softness and low basketball IQ permeate this team. Everything about him screams I don't care. Waste of great talent and I feel like he brings the team down w him. I think Syd will get there too someday. Everyone else I could do without.
 
Vital, maybe Gilbert. That’s about it right now. They all usually play hard though. But tonight USF played much harder than uconn. But you are 100% correct about how a lot of our guys play: inexplicable turnovers, not boxing out, not being crisp, we have guys that seem to fall down or lose their footing way too often
 
We couldn't secure a defensive rebound without a game of volleyball first. We missed WIDE open layups. We have NO heart. That is not coaching, thats culture, and it takes more than 6 months to fix a broken culture. Especially when the players from said broken culture are ALL still there
 
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I miss JC's quick hook too, but with about 10 minutes left in the half, he had 5 guys with 3 fouls. Not much wiggle room on who to play.

Well, JC had talented guys on the bench, too. Hurley doesn't.
 
Hard to get out coached when you don’t have a good roster
Here is not a good roster. 247 rank in parenthesis with other schools considered. It's ok to say that Hurley isn't doing a great job with Xs and Os but he's still clearly the right man for the job - not mutually exclusive.

David Collins (212) - Cincy, Drexel, Duquense, Long Island
Laquincy Rideau (NR) - Began career at Gardner Webb
Alexis Yetna (325) - Cincy, Charlotte, Drexel, Duquesne
Justin Brown (NR) - Unclear who else was recruiting him
 
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The manner in which the game was officiated - not necessarily bad but close - minimized adjustments that could be made. We needed to do what USF did - take almost everything to the rim.

That is the adjustment he didn't make.
 
Lackadaisical, if you prefer. Calhoun might say they lack intensity. They are not crisp. They need a heart transplant.

Watch the lazy passes. The failure to box out. No hard screens. Constantly beaten to the rim.

Riddle me this Batman. Who on this team would you describe as "tough?" Or mentally tough?
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Our roster is better than USF. Otherwise we win 2 Games in conference this year. And he gets canned.
Is it? There bigs are better by a WIDE margin. Their leader/point guard is a better leader/ point guard than ours. Our roster is closer to being on par with USF's than better
 
Lackadaisical, if you prefer. Calhoun might say they lack intensity. They are not crisp. They need a heart transplant.

Watch the lazy passes. The failure to box out. No hard screens. Constantly beaten to the rim.

Riddle me this Batman. Who on this team would you describe as "tough?" Or mentally tough?


Christian Vital is tough. He puts it on the line.
 
We looked like a d2 team trying to rebound against a high major on free throws. Still too small and weak.
 
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Polley 1-10, getting outrebounded by 15 - not much Hurley could do there. The team is what the team is.

There's a lot he can do there, like not play him the whole game when he can't hit the ocean from the shore.
 
Bet your ass Sid is starting over him next game after this performance. Not to say that’s going to help us because Sid has his own issues he looks lost out there half the time.

Polley was awful and if we're going to in any way approach our ceiling this year and beyond, Wilson has to play a prominent role.

But I haven't seen anything in Wilson that suggests he's going to be part of a winning team in the near future. Elite athleticism, highlight-reel plays, yes, but nowhere near the requisite consistency and basketball IQ. I said before the season that people have overhyped him and would be disappointed in the production on the court, and nothing we've seen so far disabuses me of that notion.

Wilson wasn't supposed to be this raw project -- what happened?
 
there's a lot he can do there, like not play him the whole game when he can't hit the ocean from the shore.
Who do you replace him with when he's one of your only outside threats?
 
Serious question: There were an absurd amount of fouls this game. Was that due to poor defensive fundamentals on both teams or were the refs just blowing their whistle at any contact? Seemed like a mixture of both but I'm not entirely sure.
 
Who do you replace him with when he's one of your only outside threats?

Seriously? A freakin walk-on can rebound better than he can. If he missed 5 straight three's, what makes him a threat to keep him in there to miss two more? And yes CV was more of a threat than him this game.
 
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