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I wonder if Geno would ever consider Anna as a short term ONO replacement. While Aubrey can sky, was watching Anna down low tonight and few can move her out of her spot. Good at boxing out.
 
GRIFFBIFF20 said:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves UCONN fans. A very good win tonight, but Cincinnati is NOT Oregon, Baylor, or South Carolina. One game at a time folks.
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Don't you think UConn fans know that? Everyone knows Cincy is not on the same level of the top three. Can't UConn fans enjoy one of the better played games this season without someone telling them to not get ahead of themselves? Your last sentence, it's impossible for any team to play more than one game at a time.
 
Dokey said:
Her complaint would be with Athletic Director, not girls she recruited.
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UConn beats Cincy by 47 pts will slap the Cincy athletic director's face really hard.
 
This was the third straight game AM scored in double figures. If she does not start next season then next year's team will be at a very elite level. For any freshman to be as much of a factor as Anna has been will be something to see. I expect Westbrook to play as well.
 
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HopJim said:
I wonder if Geno would ever consider Anna as a short term ONO replacement. While Aubrey can sky, was watching Anna down low tonight and few can move her out of her spot. Good at boxing out.
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Do you get the feeling we have only seen the edge of her potential? A summer in Storrs (after a visit home) could do wonders. Before she leaves Storrs she will have record for most threes in a game. And duel Paige for most assists in a game.
 
GRIFFBIFF20 said:
Let's not get ahead of ourselves UCONN fans. A very good win tonight, but Cincinnati is NOT Oregon, Baylor, or South Carolina. One game at a time folks.
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No offense, but I get tired of this. If the Huskies have a bad half against Memphis, the Cassandras see an early exit from the tourney and declare our players aren’t all that talented. But if they put a shellacking on the second and third best teams in the conference, including a 47 point beatdown on the road, well, it doesn’t mean a thing. Sorry, but i call bull.
 
ScottCT said:
There's always that one person.
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Hope Liv's bug doesn't go through the team. Sounds like Geno might have picked it up. Poor Liv. (I already used up my Marcia Brady joke in Chat). But kudos to her for giving it a try & she was a presence in her meager minutes.

Christyn believers might have been feeling a bit low for the last several games, but she showed she isn't ready for the bench quite yet. The mystery of putting the ball in the hole eludes me. Psychology? Muscle memory/amnesia? Movement? Position/matchups? Sinking a couple FTs? Basketball gods? Whatever it is, you can't say CW wasn't working to get back in the groove, and it finally came through. I suspect early in the game the team was trying to get her the ball so she could get in rhythm, and maybe that was what worked. Now, if she & Anna can do this with consistency ... It doesn't take Captain Obvious to figure this was an unusually hot shooting night, but as long as the shooters can keep an even keel in the coming games there's reason for optimism.

Meg was really Megatron this evening. A real scoring machine before the fouls benched her for a while, then comes back and goes back to work. Relentless.

Anna Mak also broke 20 and matched CD's 6 assists, with Kyla contributing 5 asts plus 2/2 3s. For this game, anyway, UConn 3 pt shooting was like the Q1 shooting of all the bad teams they've ever played.

Pretty good FT shooting tonight. CW 6/6, Griff matched Anna Mak's 2/2. AG was part of an ONO by committee that did pretty well.

Cinci got whipped -- outstanding UConn defense shouldn't be overlooked -- but some good things worth remarking, perhaps a credit to a former coach's recruiting. Antoinette Miller was persistent and got some hits. Sifa managed to get the ball in the scrums with some regularity. Sam Rodgers maybe should be on the gymnastics team since she seems to excel in backflips. UConn haters would probably compare her to Katie Lou for her dramatics, though KLS was really being fouled in all the cases they will cite, of course.
 
WCBB is loaded with teams worse than Cinci. Sure they aren't top 5, or even top 50. But the P-5 has maybe 65 or so teams, and fans don't make fun of Oregon or Baylor or S Carolina when they beat teams worse than Cinci. No, they simply say "Baylor won another B12 game or Oregon took down Utah and the assumption is that it must have been a tough win because it was a conference opponent.
Cinci would win games in any P-5 conference.
 
RockyMTblue2 said:
Anna is very comfortable with the ball everywhere on the court. Delighted with CW's game tonight. Started blah, but something kicked in.
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I think it's fair to say that Anna has arrived. Geno said she was a good shooter. You couldn't prove it by us at the beginning of the season, but you can now!! :D
 
Carnac said:
I think it's fair to say that Anna has arrived. Geno said she was a good shooter. You couldn't prove it by us at the beginning of the season, but you can now!! :D
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One of the best things about Anna tonight is that she had a big game on the road against a pretty good team. Wherever UConn ends up in the Big Dance, assuming they get to the Sweet 16, all their remaining games will be on the road against good teams.
 
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Alydar said:
Really? That's it?

No system is unreliable but Massey does at least as good a job as anything.

How about NCAA RPI?

74 Cinci
75 Colorado
83 S Cal
107 Utah
137 Cal

Why don't you show me a more reliable ranking.
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I’m not sure such a thing exists. You compare teams from different conferences. I see teams with 11 loses that are better than many of the higher rank3d Masset. It’s what there is, so, no, there isn’t one, but that wasn’t my point. Din’t Always chase the obvious.
 
HuskyNan said:
But if they put a shellacking on the second and third best teams in the conference, including a 47 point win on the road, well, it doesn’t mean a thing.
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No one said "it doesn't mean a thing."

There is a big difference between Cinci and the big three....big 20 for that matter.
Kara on the post-game show put it in perspective (my reprise)...it was a step along the way,
a big improvement. a fine game, many positives but in the first case, it had to be reproduced in the next game.

A case could also be made for how god-awful the conference is. if this is the second best team.
 
BostonBay said:
Always a great shooter, Anna is now starting to cut some of her Euro bad habits out of her game - lazy, 1-handed cross-court passes, trying to dribble through players, not using her feet on defense, etc. Geno is coaching her up!
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I wish more players would toss “lazy, 1-handed cross-Court passes” to a frequently open Anna. The key was getting Anna comfortable. Once she started hitting threes she moved to third in % in league even after an atrocious start. Throw out early games and her three point % is spectacular. Did her “Euro bad habits” make her best passer on team? I think that those skills were there. She just needed confidence. However, I do believe he helped her learn team defense, picked up because of her bb iq. I watched those slow feet all season long keep opponents from penetrating. She’s a freshman. Just, in Geno’s words, “a really, really good” one.
 
msf22b said:
A case could also be made for how god-awful the conference is. if this is the second best team.
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Your point is such an absolutely awful perspective. Every once in a while the bear is going to show it's dominance among the minnows swimming in it's pond.

I've seen many of your posts over the years and they are solid. But this comment . . . Heck you've seen UCONN in the past totally obliterate top 5 teams. Yet you seem to think the statement like the above you made has some meaning about Cinci? I mean you find it odd that a team among the top 8 in the country can totally obliterate a team in the 40-70 range? I'm not saying Cinci is 40 but what I'm saying is when a team that is 4-8 range and is hitting on all cylinders, you seriously wouldn't think that the top 8 team could comepltey wipe out a 40-70 team? You've seen number 1 annihilate number 3/4/5 etc.
 
Dokey said:
I’m not sure such a thing exists. You compare teams from different conferences. I see teams with 11 loses that are better than many of the higher rank3d Masset. It’s what there is, so, no, there isn’t one, but that wasn’t my point. Din’t Always chase the obvious.
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The whole point of ranking teams using algorythms is to account for different schedules. Massey doesn't rank based on record, ignoring the strength of opponents as you seem to suggest. Of course it is difficult to precisely rank 350 D1 teams when they play different schedules. At least I pointed to 2 different systems while you continue to pooh pooh tonight's opponent based on nothing but the fact that they are in the AAC instead of a P-5 conference.
I don't think anyone who posted positive comments about tonight's game has any delusions about Cinci's strength. But UConn has struggled against worse teams earlier in the season and a laugher, especially on the road is a huge improvement over those games. The level of energy was also a big improvement over games a month ago. I'm applauding improvement.

This is really laughable. Not too long ago I was accused of being a "Debbie Downer" for pointing out the lack of effort and team play in more than one game. Now I'm making too much of a win over an admittedly weaker team. That's my Boneyard! :rolleyes:
 
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hoophuskee said:
Your point is such an absolutely awful perspective. Every once in a while the bear is going to show it's dominance among the minnows swimming in it's pond...
Heck you've seen UCONN in the past totally obliterate top 5 teams.
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I've seen it hoophuskee and reveled in it.
But this UConn team is not your run-of-the-mill UConn team.
It's been a big problem getting everyone on the same page...getting the offense to jell;
Having all five starters participate. If this game is an indication that Geno has pulled another
rabbit out of his hat and finally gotten them to play coherent UConn BB, its an amazing feat;
perhaps his ultimate coaching triumph...if he gets them anywhere close to the final four.

But that was not your major issue...But remember my point, this is not your typical UConn of the last decade or more...
That makes a victory such as this a bit suspect and calls into question the viability of the opponent.

By any consideration, Cinci was just plumb awful...allow them some credit for their feistiness in the 4th quarter...but the UConn kids, stopped defending for a bit and took 5 minutes off and the Cinci kids hit some
layups and a few 3's...For the rest of the game, they could have been the local HS or worse...

My point: that we beat them so soundly cannot be compared to past UConn demolitions. This team
was not a worthy opponent and the present UConn group is atypical as well.

But next year should be another story :)
 
What was encouraging to me was that despite being in a self-described "bad slump" for atleast a acouple of weeks now, Christyn showed no hesitation on her three pointers tonight. She caught the ball in an open space, squared up, and confidently shot it. During the rough stretch her reluctance and indecision on offense was downright palpable. On the road to recovering her old form, this is a very positive and signifcant step.
Her rebounding was solid as well, grabbing a total of 8 boards, 2 offensive to go along with the ones she tipped to teammates.
There is a mindset that Geno has preached for a long time: do other things to help the team win (especially) if you're not scoring. Something tells me, when Christyn does reemerge on the other side for good, we'll see a player that practices that mentality to go along with her increased scoring ability and efficiency.
Of course, this was just one game. I understand that most are cautious in their optimism. But I'm just plain optimistic after seeing her performance tonight. I'm very confident that she has finally figured it out and that she will sustain this quality of play for the rest of the year and beyond.
 
msf22b said:
I've seen it hoophuskee and reveled in it.
But this UConn team is not your run-of-the-mill UConn team.
It's been a big problem getting everyone on the same page...getting the offense to jell;
Having all five starters participate. If this game is an indication that Geno has pulled another
rabbit out of his hat and finally gotten them to play coherent UConn BB, its an amazing feat;
perhaps his ultimate coaching triumph...if he gets them anywhere close to the final four.

But that was not your major issue...But remember my point, this is not your typical UConn of the last decade or more...
That makes a victory such as this a bit suspect and calls into question the viability of the opponent.

By any consideration, Cinci was just plumb awful...allow them some credit for their feistiness in the 4th quarter...but the UConn kids, stopped defending for a bit and took 5 minutes off and the Cinci kids hit some
layups and a few 3's...For the rest of the game, they could have been the local HS or worse...

My point: that we beat them so soundly cannot be compared to past UConn demolitions. This team
was not a worthy opponent and the present UConn group is atypical as well.

But next year should be another story :)
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No.. I think you're way off on this. :)

UCONN is still and has been a legit top 8 team in the country. Cinci is about a team in the 60's. When a top 8 team is hot and a top 60 team is playing badly it is going to be w wipeout regardless of the how tough the division is.

Top 8 teams will ALWAYS have chances to annihilate top 40-70 teams.

The numbers can be compared. It doesn't just have to be "UCONN." When number 6 or 7 goes against number 62 -- you can get these type of games at any point in time. Just because UCONN isn't like 4 years ago etc doesn't mean they aren't damn good. We've got a very good team this year. Not great/elite -- but very good. If you are top 8-- you are very good.
 
msf22b said:
I've seen it hoophuskee and reveled in it.
But this UConn team is not your run-of-the-mill UConn team.
It's been a big problem getting everyone on the same page...getting the offense to jell;
Having all five starters participate. If this game is an indication that Geno has pulled another
rabbit out of his hat and finally gotten them to play coherent UConn BB, its an amazing feat;
perhaps his ultimate coaching triumph...if he gets them anywhere close to the final four.

But that was not your major issue...But remember my point, this is not your typical UConn of the last decade or more...
That makes a victory such as this a bit suspect and calls into question the viability of the opponent.

By any consideration, Cinci was just plumb awful...allow them some credit for their feistiness in the 4th quarter...but the UConn kids, stopped defending for a bit and took 5 minutes off and the Cinci kids hit some
layups and a few 3's...For the rest of the game, they could have been the local HS or worse...

My point: that we beat them so soundly cannot be compared to past UConn demolitions. This team
was not a worthy opponent and the present UConn group is atypical as well.

But next year should be another story :)
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So you put no credence in and dismiss what you saw last night but have confidence in the unknown of “next year”. Strange.........the team played well last night as a team, something that had been missing all year. They showed a little real chemistry, played with a team rhythm, something that had been missing all year. Shooting in game conditions especially can be adversely affected by split second timing as it can be helped by the same. Last night it was helped. All good signs and none too soon. Uconn, by and large, tries not to play to the opponent but play “Uconn” basketball, last night, IMO, this team did for maybe the first time this year. The future will reveal whether it was the start of something really good or an aberration. And this team will decide that, not the opponent. They have the talent to compete, not necessarily win, but legitimately compete against anyone if they play as a team.
 
Littlemin said:
So you put no credence in and dismiss what you saw last night but have confidence in the unknown of “next year”. Strange.........the team played well last night as a team, something that had been missing all year. They showed a little real chemistry, played with a team rhythm, something that had been missing all year. Shooting in game conditions especially can be adversely affected by split second timing as it can be helped by the same. Last night it was helped. All good signs and none too soon. Uconn, by and large, tries not to play to the opponent but play “Uconn” basketball, last night, IMO, this team did for maybe the first time this year. The future will reveal whether it was the start of something really good or an aberration. And this team will decide that, not the opponent. They have the talent to compete, not necessarily win, but legitimately compete against anyone if they play as a team.
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Yes, agree 100%

Thank you for mentioning the game rhythm or what I interpret to mean as pace. Last night was the first time I saw the Huskies control the pace of the game, largely through a great defensive effort that took Cincy out of its game. Since UConn was in control of the pace, shots were in rhythm, making for a very pretty offensive game. As you said, it was UConn basketball
 
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