Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

[Blades]

All this overt signaling makes me think we are being strung along to entice other schools to make a decision.

If it were a done deal for us I think it would be held much closer to the vest.

True, twitter specualtion by writers is one thing, but Yormark comments now seems like he's throwing it out to still fish/ turning up the noise for some jumpy PACs. See Uconn back to the new BE and how there was nothin' out there about it.

 

[John]

Then you put the soccer team in the America East (with two other top 25 teams) and see what happens. But it’ll obviously have no part in any actual realignment discussions.

Atlantic 10 has affiliate field hockey schools too.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Let me get this straight - in your view Dave Benedict would be stupid to:
a) join a P5 designated league in all sports solidly top 3 in both football and basketball,
b) has an already agreed upon tv deal that has the games on linear ESPN/Fox,
c) with total league distribution at an estimated $50M annually

In order to
a) stay in a non P5 basketball only league with smaller Catholic private schools,
b) let football die on the vine as an independent with an expiring CBS Sports Network deal,
c) stay in a basketball league with no future tv deal in a landscape where money and time slots are drying up?

To quote Jim Calhoun you're not really that stupid, are you?

Let me get this straight, in your view Dave Benedict would be smart to:

a) join a P5 designated league that is a phone call by Apple to the Pac 12 from everyone climbing over each other to head West,
b) has a short term TV deal on freaking cable (why not just put it on UHF?) that seems ridiculously overpriced and will expire before UConn would even be fully vested,
c) just lost its two marquee programs,

In order to:
a) bail on a stable, strong basketball league that is in almost every major metro area in the northeast and Midwest,
b) ignore what happened last time UConn joined a far flung league where we didn't fit in,
c) give up the option of finding a home in the future when the ACC either splits or football splits off from basketball and negotiates its own TV and conference alignments.

To quote Jim Calhoun, "$*&% YOU!!!!!"

 

[ElGreco]

Seton Hall and Providence improved because the league got weaker. They never did anything in the NCAA tournament.

Agree. Before the breakup they never sniffed the top 5 or a BE tourney championship. They only moved up when the league got weaker. Eventually the entire league got stronger.

Yes.

 

[WrenchFan69]

If we go, I wouldn't mind seeing a 16 team football conference with a 20 team basketball conference. Take Gonzaga, which is clearly in conversations, and then add Georgetown, 'Nova and St. Johns.

Said this yesterday. CU, ASU, UofA, and us for all sports then the basketball schools. Would even be okay with PC instead of Zaga.

 

[ElGreco]

If UConn and Kansas are in the same conference they're going to play each other in conference twice a year.

TV will demand it.

 

[ElGreco]

They don't need to target anyone. After all, they "threw us a lifeline" which means they did not really need us.

We don’t need more of the Daytons and St Louis to go along with Butler, DePaul & Seton Hall in the BE. All the more reason to go Big 12 if invited!

 

[bendm]

c) give up the option of finding a home in the future when the ACC either splits or football splits off from basketball and negotiates its own TV and conference alignments.

crazy. where do you think the acc teams that dont get invited to the big10 or sec are going if not the big12? to the american? joining the big12 now would improve our positioning for when the acc dissolves.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Let me get this straight, in your view Dave Benedict would be smart to:

a) join a P5 designated league that is a phone call by Apple to the Pac 12 from everyone climbing over each other to head West,
b) has a short term TV deal on freaking cable (why not just put it on UHF?) that seems ridiculously overpriced and will expire before UConn would even be fully vested,
c) just lost its two marquee programs,

In order to:
a) bail on a stable, strong basketball league that is in almost every major metro area in the northeast and Midwest,
b) ignore what happened last time UConn joined a far flung league where we didn't fit in,
c) give up the option of finding a home in the future when the ACC either splits or football splits off from basketball and negotiates its own TV and conference alignments.

To quote Jim Calhoun, "$*&% YOU!!!!!"

This Pac12 Apple fantasy may be your best line to date. Where on gods green earth do you manage to conjure this stuff up.

ESPN or Fox is bad..being on prime and ESPN+ good.


The big 12 lost its two marquee programs... Buddy the Big East has lost 15 of its marquee programs in case you missed it Syracuse basketball and Miami football aren't in the league anymore.

The greatest irony is you moaning about the big12 short term deal and then also moaning we won't have flexibility to pivot in the future.. so what is it exactly?

 

[NowInStorrs]

 

[FriarJ]

Lol, would that be a fraud like a providence college basketball fan using a Connecticut basketball legends name as your handle on the Seton Hall board? If so it would be pretty weird, am I right?

I say the same thing there that I say here. I'd rather play local teams that we can drive to and with whom we have at least some history, but, if we get a full share offer from a P5 conference, we take it on the spot, no questions asked, and are grateful for it.

A split is coming and programs need to be a part of the current P5 to be on the right side of it. Don't feel bad about the break up it's not you, it's… Well actually sort of is you.

2 things, what was your user name when the boneyard was rivals? SHU is a Rivals board. I already had a user name from the old boneyard of a local NE legend who I loved as a teenager. When the boneyard came here I changed it to avoid confusion but have not changed it on the rivals network, capice?

 

[FriarJ]

Tossed a lifeline...

Good lord, get over yourself.

Oh, my bad. I forgot how the school was thriving in the AACK

 

[Chin Diesel]

Yormark has extensive time in the NYC metro area and its sports programming.

There's a theory that says if your only tool is a hammer all your problems look like nails. If you don’t have a hammer none of your problems look like nails.

With Yormark having a background in basketball and lrigramming it's fair to suggest he sees basketball programming as a solution.

 

[upstater]

This article throws out the same deja vu BS that the B12 delivered to us last time. Benedict is being played again. It's not his fault but the B12 can't keep its mouth shut as it drags us yet again.

Big 12 talks expansion, source says, as commish touts 'plan'

A source who participated in the Big 12 meetings this week told ESPN there were no votes on membership or expansion, but there were discussions about scenarios.

www.espn.com

 

[LBird33]

This article throws out the same deja vu BS that the B12 delivered to us last time. Benedict is being played again. It's not his fault but the B12 can't keep its mouth shut as it drags us yet again.

Big 12 talks expansion, source says, as commish touts 'plan'

A source who participated in the Big 12 meetings this week told ESPN there were no votes on membership or expansion, but there were discussions about scenarios.

www.espn.com

 

[LBird33]

Unfortunately there will be no movement until the PAC has a contract. Which will then determine our fate

 

[John]

This article throws out the same deja vu BS that the B12 delivered to us last time. Benedict is being played again. It's not his fault but the B12 can't keep its mouth shut as it drags us yet again.

Big 12 talks expansion, source says, as commish touts 'plan'

A source who participated in the Big 12 meetings this week told ESPN there were no votes on membership or expansion, but there were discussions about scenarios.

www.espn.com

that does not sound good.

 

[superjohn]

Oh, my bad. I forgot how the school was thriving in the AACK

Do you really believe the Big East wasn't beyond excited to bring UConn back?

 

[August_West]

This article throws out the same deja vu BS that the B12 delivered to us last time. Benedict is being played again. It's not his fault but the B12 can't keep its mouth shut as it drags us yet again.

Big 12 talks expansion, source says, as commish touts 'plan'

A source who participated in the Big 12 meetings this week told ESPN there were no votes on membership or expansion, but there were discussions about scenarios.

www.espn.com

Suckers.


But the good news now over what happened 5 years ago is we are where we are supposed to be.

 

[August_West]

Yormark has extensive time in the NYC metro area and its sports programming.

There's a theory that says if your only tool is a hammer all your problems look like nails. If you don’t have a hammer none of your problems look like nails.

With Yormark having a background in basketball and lrigramming it's fair to suggest he sees basketball programming as a solution.

 

[kobe]

Just imagine how often we’ll see @kobe and how infrequently we’ll see @FriarJ.

And not a moment too soon given kobe was running out of digs towards us. He finally got one clever one across. I was betting against him being able to repeat. Guess I there’s a correlation between supporting a pathetic team and cleverness.

actual conference. church league. independent. it dont matter. im going nowhere.

 

[champs99and04]

My read is that UConn is going to join the Big 12 as a basketball-only member.

 

[superjohn]

My read is that UConn is going to join the Big 12 as a basketball-only member.

That would be the dumbest thing in the history of dumb things.

Can't tell if you're joking or not.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This Pac12 Apple fantasy may be your best line to date. Where on gods green earth do you manage to conjure this stuff up.

ESPN or Fox is bad..being on prime and ESPN+ good.


The big 12 lost its two marquee programs... Buddy the Big East has lost 15 of its marquee programs in case you missed it Syracuse basketball and Miami football aren't in the league anymore.

The greatest irony is you moaning about the big12 short term deal and then also moaning we won't have flexibility to pivot in the future.. so what is it exactly?

So you got nothing. You can't make an argument for why the Big 12 should continue to get big tv deals. That's what I thought.

 

[aburks41]

My read is that UConn is going to join the Big 12 as a basketball-only member.

That would literally make zero sense. The B12 move only works if 1) they take our football program. 2) they pay us a full revenue share

 

[nadav]

That would literally make zero sense. The B12 move only works if 1) they take our football program. 2) they pay us a full revenue share

Also it's legally impossible.

 

[businesslawyer]

I translate Yormak's statement today as follows: "Well, by pretending we'd fill the spots with UConn and Gonzaga we were unable to get the 4 4-corner schools to accept our offer before knowing the Pac's future, so now we'll wait and see how their contract looks and whether they're joining us or not."

 

[champs99and04]

That would literally make zero sense. The B12 move only works if 1) they take our football program. 2) they pay us a full revenue share

It makes sense if the only objective is to maximize TV revenue. I don't know the specifics of the Big East's buyout agreement, but I assume at some point the deal ends or the number drops which is when something could happen. I don't necessarily think it will happen in the short-term, but a decade from now maybe.

 

[nadav]

Suckers.


But the good news now over what happened 5 years ago is we are where we are supposed to be.

Dead in the water?

 

[gsmooth]

I translate Yormak's statement today as follows: "Well, by pretending we'd fill the spots with UConn and Gonzaga we were unable to get the 4 4-corner schools to accept our offer before knowing the Pac's future, so now we'll wait and see how their contract looks and whether they're joining us or not."

that's the way I looked at it to. Yormark manipulated the UConn and Gonzaga the media force the hand of the PAC 12 schools. We will find out for sure what really was intended in a few weeks.