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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
  • Total voters
    650
ConnHuskBask said:
Why do you think so little of our football program? Before the ACC fired the opening salvo to this latest round of realignment we had won the BE 2 of the previous 4 years. We've beat half the teams in what would be the new Big 12...it's not impossible.
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Why were we a national laughing stock for not being able to sell tickets to the Fiesta Bowl?
 
CL82 said:
For what it's worth, while @FriarJ is coming to our board and lecturing us on civility, there is a seven page thread on his home board Friartalk which is predominantly filled by profanity and a recurring misspelling of our schools name:

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He has posted in that thread but hasn't called for civility there even once. Apparently he saves the preaching about civility for when he comes on the our board.

The most interesting thing in that seven page thread is that, aside from the profanity and wishing our players and program died in a plane crash, there is a concern for the validity of the Big East should we leave. There are a bunch of posts that hope that Creighton, or Xavier, or Marquette or someone will step up and have a high national profile and "maybe get to some final fours" so that the league will have some legitimacy. But there are no posts, not a single one, suggesting that Providence should be the one to lead the conference.

I have never seen a fanbase so resigned to being a parasite. No wonder why they are so bitter.
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I read Friar Talk every now and then. Yeah, some of them posters are despicable for sure. I hesitate to generalize about a fan base based on a particular blog.

Most, if not all sports blogs, including the Boneyard, have some "civil wars" and hardcore sniping at each other. The Boneyard, or any sports blog for that matter, have their share of morons as well as really good intelligent posters.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
J,

Out of curiosity, if I were to work my way to the PC board would I find any posts authored by you crapping on UConn?

I have no desire to play that game but the way I see it civility is a two way street.
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You would see a post of me hoping you leave because of the fans on here crapping on your current conference. You will not see a single post on there any different than what I have posted in one of your two threads. You will also see me questioning is there the NIL support in Connecticut to produce a competitive FB squad in the B12. I posted the same exact thing here. I think it’s a valid concern and nobody bothered to engage me on it here.
 
The real question is...who does the Big East target to backfill UConn if we left?

Dayton? Do they really want another Ohio school?

St Louis? Barf

UMass? Could be interesting...

Temple? Would Nova allow that?

Memphis?

FAU?
 
August_West said:
Why were we a national laughing stock for not being able to sell tickets to the Fiesta Bowl?
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The Fiesta Bowl story was absurd and I suspect you know it. The stadium was filled (I was there and the reported attendance substantes this) and the secondary market was so cheap because (if memory serves) the national title game was Oregon Auburn a week later in Glendale and to get that ticket you had to get the Fiesta Bowl seat as well..so the market was flooded with cheap seats. Many UConn fans who were already flying to Arizona made a rational choice to save $100+ a ticket and get seats on StubHub as opposed to through the school.

Not to mention the same year the ACC champion got beat by 28 points too in the Orange bowl but that didn't become a national story and a catalyst for the downfall of the BCS.

UConn athletics isn't a blue blood (you yourself tout this as a badge of honor for hoop) and thus we get the ish treatment by many of the media...you debate this?
 
gsmooth said:
Like CL82 said in a post above, there are some here that staunchly want to stay in the BE with some over the top hyperbole so that triggers a reaction from the hardcore football faithful to hyperbolically crap on the BE.

From reading most of these posts, most UConn fans, including myself, really like the BE and would love for the basketball to stay there while reaping the benefits of the football team being in the B12. Basically, our hearts are in the Big East, but our brains say we have to take the B12 invite if it does come our way, which BTW is no guarantee UConn will get an invite. There are not many UConn fans if any that are sticking their tongues out at the Big East and saying "so long suckers".

Look at my post below that is on page 48 of this thread. I think encapsulates very well the sentiments of most UConn fans, not all UConn fans to be honest.
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Yes, I’m sorry if I gave the appearance it’s everybody here, or it’s even the majority. It’s not, but it’s a sizable enough contingent to rub me wrong.
 
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navery12 said:
But basketball would be a factor in the decision, and is why it's such an easy call to make if we get the offer. When it upgrades every sport except men's soccer and is a lateral move at worst for basketball it's a slam dunk decision
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Its not a lateral move at worst for Basketball. LOL it is so much not a lateral move. You're a smart guy why can't you see that? There is so much more at play here because of who we are, who CT is as a state, who and what our University is. What makes our hoops program successful and what doesnt. Who our fans are. What they support and what they don't. There is so much more than KenPom conference ranking that goes into this, and what helps us as a program.

Like I said, everyone has to stop pretending this has anything to do with anything BUT Football, and if you don't like that comment take it up with Mr. Fanta.
 
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aburks41 said:
The real question is...who does the Big East target to backfill UConn if we left?

Dayton? Do they really want another Ohio school?

St Louis? Barf

UMass? Could be interesting...

Temple? Would Nova allow that?

Memphis?

FAU?
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VCU
 
August_West said:
This move has ZERO to do with basketball - stop pretending. We are in the absolute best situation we could be in right now Basketball wise.
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It obviously has the most to do with football, but that doesn’t mean it’s some big step back for basketball.

The big loss for basketball is geographical rivalries. The strength of schedule would improve and the NIL situation would too. Recruiting would only improve and it’s honestly laughable for anyone to say otherwise.

I’d be happy staying in the Big East, but I wouldn’t mourn leaving the Big East for the B12.
 
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August_West said:
Why were we a national laughing stock for not being able to sell tickets to the Fiesta Bowl?
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Because our athletic department is as small-minded as you seem to be and decided to bundle our allotment with a ridiculous travel bundle? We bought tickets…just not through that clown show.

Try to pay a little bit of attention before wading in past your ankles.
 
Fishy said:
Because our athletic department is as small-minded as you seem to be and decided to bundle our allotment with a ridiculous travel bundle? We bought tickets…just not through that clown show.

Try to pay a little bit of attention before wading in past your ankles.
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Right. Any excuse for a lack of demand. We hear it all.
 
August_West said:
Its not a lateral move at worst for Basketball. LOL it is so much not a lateral move. You're a smart guy why can't you see that? There is so much more at play here because of who we are, who CT is as a state, who and what our University is. What makes our hoops program successful and what doesnt. Who our fans are. What they support and what they don't. There is so much more than KenPom conference ranking that goes into this, and what helps us as a program.

Like I said, everyone has to stop pretending this has anything to do with anything BUT Football, and if you don't like that comment take it up with Mr. Fanta.
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What he is saying should be taken seriously, because he's far from alone. Men's basketball fans, unless they also care about football, are having this reaction because, from a men's basketball perspective, leaving the Big East for the Big XII is not what you want. From that perspective, it's not what I want emotionally. Unfortunately, however, turning it down, even if you don't care about football, would require you to think the Big East is guaranteed to be a national player with the P-5 (or less) conferences going forward in hoops, and we can't count on that. I view the offer as one we probably have to take, but not one that will make me happier as a basketball fan in the short term.

And while I don't expect either conference to invite us, for all its issues (stuck in a bad contract that undervalues their schools compared to what the Big XII is getting and the fact that its TX--OK departure hasn't happened yet but will someday), I would still rather take an offer from the ACC than the Big XII for geographic, rivalry and like minded institution perspectives.
 
August_West said:
Explain that to me please
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Instead of needing millions of dollars from big donors to fund facilities upgrades, you can use the $50M in TV money for that and let the donors focus on NIL efforts.
 
August_West said:
We're not going anywhere. Dont worry lil bro.

Nor should we. It just so happens that there is not a dumber message board poster in the world than a UConn fan who constantly plays the Game of Thrones with Conference Realignment scenarios.
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Personally I see one and only one path to our recieving an offer to join the B-12 but at the moment it does appear to be a slight possibility. If I were a betting man I would say odds are 4-1 or 5-1 against it happening.

That said, if it does happen, we would be making the biggest mistake in the history of the school if we didn't accept. In all candor there was nothing leading us back to the BE when it happened beyond money.

The new AAC media contract was disastrous for us and the school's administration realized that if we could cobble together an average football schedule and secure a minimal contract for the home football games (we exceeded the first and met the second) we would be better off leaving the AAC for the BE. That was a financial decision, period and, the BE wanting us back was also a financial decision, nothing else. The BE wanted us because we made the conference more valuable, no other reason.

The only path I see is Colorado securing a move to the B-12 within the next few weeks while none of the other four corner P-12 schools accept an offer. Additionally, media partners refuse to allow a full pro-rata increase for SD St. At that point we will receive an invitation. Under any other circumstances, we won't.
 
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FriarJ said:
And you are on the Seton Hall board saying you don’t want to leave. What a fraud you are.
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Lol, would that be a fraud like a providence college basketball fan using a Connecticut basketball legends name as your handle on the Seton Hall board? If so it would be pretty weird, am I right?

I say the same thing there that I say here. I'd rather play local teams that we can drive to and with whom we have at least some history, but, if we get a full share offer from a P5 conference, we take it on the spot, no questions asked, and are grateful for it.

A split is coming and programs need to be a part of the current P5 to be on the right side of it. Don't feel bad about the break up it's not you, it's… Well actually sort of is you.
 
August_West said:
Explain that to me please
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Here's one way

All the boosters who have been asked to help prop up our dire financial straights programs receiving a negligible 4 million a year tv money could now turn their attention to donations for NIL with the Big12 faucet running
 
aburks41 said:
Instead of needing millions of dollars from big donors to fund facilities upgrades, you can use the $50M in TV money for that and let the donors focus on NIL efforts.
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Why is that automatic? You can't tell donors where to actually put their money.
 
August_West said:
Yes. Big12 makes no sense . None. We will not chase mediocrity in Football to sacrifice the Best Basketball program in the country. If the Big12 is so great why did Texas and Oklahoma run?
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You can't really view a move to the SEC as running.

Now you're getting perilously close to jumping the shark.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
You can't really view a move to the SEC as running.

Now you're getting perilously close to jumping the shark.
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Sure I can. As an indication that a league is on the wrong side of this deal I certainly can say that.
 
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August_West said:
Its not a lateral move at worst for Basketball. LOL it is so much not a lateral move. You're a smart guy why can't you see that? There is so much more at play here because of who we are, who CT is as a state, who and what our University is. What makes our hoops program successful and what doesnt. Who our fans are. What they support and what they don't. There is so much more than KenPom conference ranking that goes into this, and what helps us as a program.

Like I said, everyone has to stop pretending this has anything to do with anything BUT Football, and if you don't like that comment take it up with Mr. Fanta.
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I agree with everything you said in the first paragraph, there is a lot more that goes into it than just a KenPom conference ranking and good teams. And despite all of that I still see it as a lateral move for basketball, and a massive upgrade for almost all other sports.

Nobody is denying that it's football driving the decision, but like you have accurately said we are and always will be a basketball school which is why that has to factor into the decision. If basketball was the only factor then yes you absolutely stay in the Big East. But the AD has to consider all sports in the decision, even if basketball is #1 in that
 
August_West said:
Why is that automatic? You can't tell donors where to actually put their money.
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Well, in a way you can. Because you wouldn't need to do any fundraising efforts for infrastructure improvements. That could get fully funded via new TV money.
 
August_West said:
"Funny how you claim to be the basketball capital of the world and then put basketball on the back burner"
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Because being in a conference with the two immediate prior men's basketball national champions is putting basketball on the back burner?
 
ConnHuskBask said:
I'm not saying UConn Kansas is in the same breath as UNC Duke but those two schools in an expanded ACC somehow miraculously end up playing each other twice a regular season.
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They're 8 miles apart and have been rivals forever lol. If the Big 12 goes to regional pods then UConn and Kansas almost certainly not be together.
 
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