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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
  • Total voters
    650
HuskyHawk said:
What makes sense is the ACC + WVU, Cinci, UConn and maybe UCF and the Big XII adding the remaining Pac teams. Which is why it probably won't happen.
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Big 12 has a GOR.
 
3rdbass said:
Why? What is the incentive does the B12 have without our Basketball men's and women's teams? Do you really think they want a bottom of the barrel college football team just because we are in the Northeast? It will be all sports or no sports if we move to the B12. B12 has some pretty good basketball teams in Kansas, Baylor, Houston, Iowa St., K-State and Texas Tech.
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I think he was joking.
 
UCONNRPh said:
I do not believe we'd be taken BECAUSE of football... Men and Womens BB is what I feel keeps our name in the game. Would love to have baseball head out to Omaha (Big 12 territory) plus all the other ranked sports teams we have.

regarding football: attendance is a major check on the negative side, as is winning record consistency, recruiting quality, NIL (even though I do not know numbers-I'm sure the oil and land owners/alumni in midwest (Big 12) will be more than ours), We would be the Rutgers of the Big 12 in football. I say this not to be a debbie downer (I went to Marshall Bowl game) but am not falling for a college sports dream again. .....I'm sure there are more reasons but am in a hurry to meet son at bar (21st birthday today)

We need to be realistic and not jump at rumors like we did in the past.

(Am not looking forward to any responses when I look at this later):(
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Football recruiting in CT and New England is now considered a plus because of the talent coming out of the prep schools.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Why can’t UConn go to the ACC?
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They're just not that into us. They have had a decade plus t
uconnric said:
Simple. The teams in the Big 12 have nowhere else to go.
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And they lost their top 2 brands AND negotiated a contract without them that was on par with the ACC with Clemson and FSU AND they will go to market at least 1 more time before the ACC. That's what you call a win, win, win.
 
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Kolumbo said:
I'm stealing this from the cuse board and what is interesting is, everyone in the ACC wants out. I'd replace bcu with USF or Temple or something. Big XII x II:

"Big 12 East
Boston College (MA)
Connecticut (CT)
Syracuse (NY)
Pittsburgh (PA)
West Virginia (WV)
Cincinnati (OH)
Louisville (KY)
Kansas (KS)
Duke (NC)
Wake Forest (NC)
Georgia Tech (GA)
UCF (FL)

Big 12 West
Iowa St (IA)
Kansas St (KS)
Oklahoma St (OK)
Houston (TX)
Baylor (TX)
TCU (TX)
Texas Tech (TX)
Colorado (CO)
BYU (UT)
Utah (UT)
Arizona (AZ)
Arizona St (AZ)"
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Not a great travel schedule for the Jayhawks
 
If the ACC 7 split, pick up the remnants and add Temple.

4 hoops pods, play within pod twice and other pods once for a 18 game conference schedule.

  • UConn, Providence, Boston College, Seton Hall, Temple
  • Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Syracuse, St. John's
  • DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Xavier
  • Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake, Louisville, Pitt

Football:
  • Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Wake, UConn, Villanova, Temple
 
We don’t need a second small Philly school in temple. Memphis brings in another decent market as the 25th biggest city and has a much higher ceiling as a program in football.

And idk how you organized those pods but these are the best geographic pods

  • UConn, PC, BC, Cuse, SJU
  • Hall, Georgetown, Nova, Pitt, Xavier
  • DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Notre Dame
  • Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake, Louisville, Memphis

Football:
  • Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Wake, UConn, Villanova, Memphis
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Zissou said:
If the ACC 7 split, pick up the remnants and add Temple.

4 hoops pods, play within pod twice and other pods once for a 18 game conference schedule.

  • UConn, Providence, Boston College, Seton Hall, Temple
  • Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Syracuse, St. John's
  • DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Xavier
  • Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake, Louisville, Pitt

Football:
  • Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Wake, UConn, Villanova, Temple
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Looks like you did the pods geographically but didn’t have the two Philly schools in the same pod?
 
Zissou said:
If the ACC 7 split, pick up the remnants and add Temple.

4 hoops pods, play within pod twice and other pods once for a 18 game conference schedule.

  • UConn, Providence, Boston College, Seton Hall, Temple
  • Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Syracuse, St. John's
  • DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Xavier
  • Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake, Louisville, Pitt

Football:
  • Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Wake, UConn, Villanova, Temple
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They ACC remnants would try to build a better football league because the one you are proposing would not be good enough for an auto-bid and would be relegated to G-5 status.

They would either try to steal WVU, Cincy and UCF from the B12 and add UCONN or they would join the B12.

If WVU, Cincy, and UCF were willing to move I could see them then trying to go hybrid to shore up basketball by inviting Nova, StJohns, Gtown but I don't think they would want to swallow the entire Big East.
 
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I think it would be more likely..big east schools joining what’s left of the acc
 
Zissou said:
If the ACC 7 split, pick up the remnants and add Temple.

4 hoops pods, play within pod twice and other pods once for a 18 game conference schedule.

  • UConn, Providence, Boston College, Seton Hall, Temple
  • Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Syracuse, St. John's
  • DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Xavier
  • Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake, Louisville, Pitt

Football:
  • Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Wake, UConn, Villanova, Temple
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NCAA rules (I believe) prohibit divisions or pods in conference scheduling.
 
Rocktheworld said:
The recency bias of ThE BiG12 iS tHe BeSt BaSkEtBalL cOnFeReNcE going on ITT is really something
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Is it really recency bias though? They've been the #1 conference on KenPom 8 of the last 10 years. They were #2 the 2 years they weren't at the top, which was the cancelled NCAA tournament year when they had 2 of the top 3 teams, and the year Baylor steamrolled Gonzaga and won a national championship
 
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Jbirdp5 said:
Prevents divisions? Half the countries conferences are divided into divisions.
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Conferences are starting to realize divisions have negative consequences within the CFP system.
 
The BIG 10 does.
With the 2014 conference expansion, the divisions were realigned and renamed East and West. The East features Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, and Rutgers, while the West comprises Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, and Wisconsin.
 
metsfan2323 said:
They ACC remnants would try to build a better football league because the one you are proposing would not be good enough for an auto-bid and would be relegated to G-5 status.

They would either try to steal WVU, Cincy and UCF from the B12 and add UCONN or they would join the B12.

If WVU, Cincy, and UCF were willing to move I could see them then trying to go hybrid to shore up basketball by inviting Nova, StJohns, Gtown but I don't think they would want to swallow the entire Big East.
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I don’t think WV, Cincy, or UCF would prefer to change, and I don’t think the B12 would want all of these ACC leftovers
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
Why can’t UConn go to the ACC?
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Well, it appears they're moving into survival mode themselves

Only two conferences stand as the king of the hill, SEC & B10. Everyone else is in the state of fluctuation. Except for maybe the Big East
 
Zissou said:
I don’t think WV, Cincy, or UCF would prefer to change, and I don’t think the B12 would want all of these ACC leftovers
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Bottom line is if the ACC dissolved all of those schools are going to try to maintain their "Power" status by being in an auto-bid league so your football league proposal will be a non-starter. A majority of those schools will certainly be enticing for the B12, which really highlights why UCONN cannot reject a B12 offer, it may be our last chance to ever secure a seat at the big money football table.
 
navery12 said:
Is it really recency bias though? They've been the #1 conference on KenPom 8 of the last 10 years. They were #2 the 2 years they weren't at the top, which was the cancelled NCAA tournament year when they had 2 of the top 3 teams, and the year Baylor steamrolled Gonzaga and won a national championship
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Appreciate the KenPom, I wasn’t aware and appreciate that. Maybe I was off on that. It’s just felt like the ACC and SEC at least have been better overall, with different conferences taking turns being the best, but maybe not.
 
Rocktheworld said:
That’s wild and I really appreciate the graphics.

Wow on Cincinnati research and KU being as bad a school overall that it is.
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Kansas isn’t that surprising when you think about the fact that it is the state university of…Kansas.
 
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