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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
  • Total voters
    650
Waquoit said:
I still think the B12 should take us as a FB only.
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While we are dreaming. Let’s say baseball as well, the BE is dogshite in baseball
 
FriarJ said:
Do you need more money? Let's say you get $30 mil a year. Does that money go on top of the money the state is currently subsidizing you with? Of course not, it helps replace it. I would be very careful here.
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You are right! Making more money is so stupid!
 
Waquoit said:
I still think the B12 should take us as a FB only.
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Why? What is the incentive does the B12 have without our Basketball men's and women's teams? Do you really think they want a bottom of the barrel college football team just because we are in the Northeast? It will be all sports or no sports if we move to the B12. B12 has some pretty good basketball teams in Kansas, Baylor, Houston, Iowa St., K-State and Texas Tech.
 
CL82 said:
You are right! Making more money is so stupid!
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I think his point was if we can't get the money from athletics we. An get it from taxpayers so why not just keep charging taxpayers more and more.
 
3rdbass said:
Why? What is the incentive does the B12 have without our Basketball men's and women's teams? Do you really think they want a bottom of the barrel college football team just because we are in the Northeast? It will be all sports or no sports if we move to the B12. B12 has some pretty good basketball teams in Kansas, Baylor, Houston, Iowa St., K-State and Texas Tech.
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None. It's a lame attempt to keep hoops in the Big East. Biggest problem is actually soccer. Maybe Big East would let them stay. It would be phenomenal for Baseball.
 
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Waquoit said:
I still think the B12 should take us as a FB only.
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I do not believe we'd be taken BECAUSE of football... Men and Womens BB is what I feel keeps our name in the game. Would love to have baseball head out to Omaha (Big 12 territory) plus all the other ranked sports teams we have.

regarding football: attendance is a major check on the negative side, as is winning record consistency, recruiting quality, NIL (even though I do not know numbers-I'm sure the oil and land owners/alumni in midwest (Big 12) will be more than ours), We would be the Rutgers of the Big 12 in football. I say this not to be a debbie downer (I went to Marshall Bowl game) but am not falling for a college sports dream again. .....I'm sure there are more reasons but am in a hurry to meet son at bar (21st birthday today)

We need to be realistic and not jump at rumors like we did in the past.

(Am not looking forward to any responses when I look at this later):(
 
UCONNRPh said:
We need to be realistic and not jump at rumors like we did in the past.
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It's like you don't know us at all anymore.
 
Billy Jack said:
Yes, networks do make stupid decisions. But seriously look at who’s in the Big XII. Look at the history of those football programs. Look at the population centers they do/don’t represent. Do you really think that money will last? I don’t. I can’t see throwing my lot in with them.

In the real world instead of the world of TV fantasy, the reconstructed Bug XII is not a power conference for the simple reason that it has no power teams. Their power teams walked out the door years ago or are about to walk out the door next year. And they took their population centers with them. You can’t be a power conference without power teams.
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The strength of the Big12 is their extremely dedicated fanbases. While they have not had a run of power/national championship caliber FB teams in the past 20 or so years, they have proven year after year that they have fanbases that care about football and show up at stadia, and watch games on TV. That is their power - and it actually has equaled or surpassed all but the B1G and the SEC.
 
Drew said:
If you’re a UConn fan and don’t already have them, now would be a really great time to spend $53 on UConn football season tickets this fall to support the program:

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Exactly, we need to fill the Rent this season. If you can't go to games, buy the tickets anyways and give them to others. Or simply look at it as a donation to the program. Buy 2.5 less pizzas for the rest of the year and you'll come out feeling better.
 
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Billy Jack said:
You’re absolutely right. If the Big XII wants to add UConn, they can’t simply leave us out on an island as they did with West Virginia. They would have to create a Northeast division so that membership would make some kind of sense for us.
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With WV and Cincinnati in, I would feel better for us if another couple of former BE teams were in as well. Any two of Syracuse, Pitt, or BC would certainly feel better to me.
 
3rdbass said:
Why? What is the incentive does the B12 have without our Basketball men's and women's teams?
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I was just saying what I think would work best for UConn.
 
HuskyHawk said:
What makes sense is the ACC + WVU, Cinci, UConn and maybe UCF and the Big XII adding the remaining Pac teams. Which is why it probably won't happen.
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WVU, Cinci, and UCF signed a GOR with the Big 12. They can't leave.
 
tcf15 said:
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We have world class facilities
The Viking said:
The B12 commissioners interest in us has a lot to do with our hoops program. He wasn’t sniffing around campus for football. And quite frankly I hope he didn’t .because then he will ask why he can’t find the football stadium.
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UConn has a lot of nice facilities. I'm sure he was impressed with the school, campus and facilities, even though there's no football stadium there.

The Rent does its job and can be expanded.
 
HuskyHawk said:
None. It's a lame attempt to keep hoops in the Big East. Biggest problem is actually soccer. Maybe Big East would let them stay. It would be phenomenal for Baseball.
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Big East wouldn’t do us any favors. But with our history and facility, there would be plenty of interest for us as a soccer only affiliate member.
 
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Kolumbo said:
I'm stealing this from the cuse board and what is interesting is, everyone in the ACC wants out. I'd replace bcu with USF or Temple or something. Big XII x II:

"Big 12 East
Boston College (MA)
Connecticut (CT)
Syracuse (NY)
Pittsburgh (PA)
West Virginia (WV)
Cincinnati (OH)
Louisville (KY)
Kansas (KS)
Duke (NC)
Wake Forest (NC)
Georgia Tech (GA)
UCF (FL)

Big 12 West
Iowa St (IA)
Kansas St (KS)
Oklahoma St (OK)
Houston (TX)
Baylor (TX)
TCU (TX)
Texas Tech (TX)
Colorado (CO)
BYU (UT)
Utah (UT)
Arizona (AZ)
Arizona St (AZ)"
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This would be ideal
 
realignment for dummy's abridged version

UConn has TWO potential choices:
1) stay in the BE and keep football indy,
or maybe
2) accept an invitation to the BIG12.

there is no 3rd option. if we want to get into a P5 then we cannot "wait and see" what happens with the ACC GOR. if the ACC dissolves then our invitation to the BIG12 would go to NC St/VT/GT/Louisville instead.

doesnt matter whether a "power 2" football conference eventually breaks away from the ncaa. worst case scenario we join a new conference of leftovers e.g. Cuse/Pitt/WVU etc. because none of them are making the cut either.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Great added points!

I think sports act as the typical flagship university's front porch which helps build enthusiasm within its home state, helps with building its state budget commitments, creates exposure to prospective out of state students, and sustains/builds connections to alumns and donors.

In terms of BU (my undergraduate alma mater), there are a few dynamics involved. We actually had a high performing football program at the Yankee Conference/1AA level when the plug was suddenly pulled in 1997; sent several guys to the NFL in the 80s and 90s including Bill Brooks who was 1986 AFC Rookie of the Year.

BU was one of the first American universities to strongly go after high performing international students. If you walk the campus or step into the student union now you might not even think you are in a US city. This increased the academic profile of BU and that helped with recruiting more high profile US students as well. Research was also focused on and now BU is in the AAU and is considered one of the leading research universities in the US and even globally in certain fields (medical, life sciences, high tech, socio/politics, etc.). Pretty remarkable trajectory over a couple of decades, actually.

Long way of saying, athletic success and academic success can work together but obviously can be mutually exclusive as well.
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BU '90 here as well.

I'm always interested too in the question of branding. Typically, the AD gets all the money from the sale of sweatshirts and the like. But if anyone steps foot on Cal Santa Barbara's campus, NYU, Boston U, etc., there's some people wearing school colors. It's not strictly a sports thing.
 
UConn Dan said:
If you think longterm, there's a good chance those schools will probably join us. The ACC will be falling apart in 10 years. If we get an offer to Big 12 now, we say yes, and thank our lucky stars.
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If the ACC were smart, they'd talk to ESPN and ABC now, get an idea of the payout for a conference without UNC, Virginia, FSU and Clemson, and then decide if it would be smarter for them to let those 4 schools leave with a negotiated settlement (say $25m each), and go after schools like UConn, WV, maybe even Kansas.
 
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nelsonmuntz said:
If there is a market that gets the hodge podge of flyover schools and community colleges like the Big 12 that much money, then let's see how well the Big East can do on its own.
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Since it's football that means 80% of the revenue. So take 20% of their deal, add about $ 1 M a school for being the Big East and you get about $9 m a yr for the new Big East contract.
 
Rico444 said:
I hope you're right. I'm not saying that to be snarky, I really do hope if this happens that I'm proven wrong and we're the outlier that has continues our success. Syracuse and Pitt were top level programs in 2013. Cuse has made a few deep tournament runs, but otherwise hasn't been very successful. Pitt has completely fallen apart. BC wasn't that good to start, but they have dropped so much that I can barely remember the last time they were even remotely relevant. The hit rate for teams leaving the Big East has not been very good. I don't think that's a coincidence.
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Do the coaches they had during that time matter? Over the hill Boeheim, bad hires and athletic department disfunction at Pitt and BC is well, Rutgers of the private schools.
 
upstater said:
BU '90 here as well.

I'm always interested too in the question of branding. Typically, the AD gets all the money from the sale of sweatshirts and the like. But if anyone steps foot on Cal Santa Barbara's campus, NYU, Boston U, etc., there's some people wearing school colors. It's not strictly a sports thing.
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BU '09 - very true about the international influence here. BU to Big 12 confirmed.
 
uconnric said:
Simple. The teams in the Big 12 have nowhere else to go.
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