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Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

Big 12 Yea/ Nay

  • We got no choice

    Votes: 305 46.9%

  • Stay in the Big East

    Votes: 251 38.6%

  • Are we there yet?

    Votes: 94 14.5%
  • Total voters
    650
Drumguy said:
The verse is actually "whiskey in Rye" as in Rye, NY. McLean was from New Rochelle - the Levee was a bar that closed ("is dry"). So whiskey will have to do and should suffice!
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Thanks. it never made sense to me that it was "whiskey and rye."
 
CL82 said:
Thanks. it never made sense to me that it was "whiskey and rye."
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Yeah but,...

I live ten miles from Rye. I highly doubt many good old boys would go there to drink.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Yeah but,...

I live ten miles from Rye. I highly doubt many good old boys would go there to drink.
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It has changed from the late sixties and seventies.....is the Mug and Ale still there?
 
SECONN said:
It has changed from the late sixties and seventies.....is the Mug and Ale still there?
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This. In the late 70s, when I was legal in Westchester, there were plenty of dive bars where the regular crowd were the type you'd expect to see in dive bars. (Plus young, future yuppies who still couldn't afford anything better.)
 
Every news article taht comes out feels like UConn is once again getting the shaft by the Big 12. Just this time they didn't have to fly down to Texas to make a presentation like a beauty pageant.
 
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CL82 said:
It's over, when it's over. So you will forgive me if I wait for the big 12 to say they're done expanding for the moment. Right now they're appeared to be two slots remaining, and we only need one of them.
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There may be 3. We do not know that AZ is moving.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
We need to hear a statement very soon from UConn's board, athletic director and president about realignment. Even if it is just to say
they are monitoring activities and UConn is committed to its sports programs. Right now, it looks like UConn is floundering while the realignment process nationally is in a state of flux
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No. We don’t.

You can be sure they are on top of it.
 
LoyalFanCT said:
No. Remember a dozen years ago. Herbst and the rock star thought they had everything under control and we would land in the ACC. Then, one of most mediocre universities in the South, Louisville, gave the conference all sorts of promises and they got our spot. We need to look like this is important to us. I would even float the idea of building an on campus FB stadium in Storrs. There are those on the Boneyard who think UConn should remain in the New Big East for 100 years or more and who cares about football, we have to work to make it into a Power Conference.
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......LOL
 
DCT said:
With the PAC 12 going under today, Big 12 has choice of remaining PAC 12 teams, I don't think UCONN has much chance anymore.
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I’m still hoping Arizona Utah UConn. But hard to pass up Stanford.
 
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Khal Drogo said:
If you want to be a coast to coast conference why would you choose two schools from AZ and Utah.
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Because their Presidents decided to go against the advice of BY and think they can get the eastern expansion when the ACC implodes and they will pick up Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Duke, etc

It is a risky play as I think establishing the NE presence now with UConn would have given them an advantage over the ACC when the time comes and I think this western only move with only two new western states gives the ACC a better chance of out-surviving the B12. But I guess only time will tell if that is the case.
 
UConnSportsGuy said:
Because their Presidents decided to go against the advice of BY and think they can get the eastern expansion when the ACC implodes and they will pick up Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Duke, etc

It is a risky play as I think establishing the NE presence now with UConn would have given them an advantage over the ACC when the time comes and I think this western only move with only two new western states gives the ACC a better chance of out-surviving the B12. But I guess only time will tell if that is the case.
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Disagree. The Big 12 adding us does nothing to attract the ACC schools because the ACC will be effectively destroyed without Clemson, UNC, UVA, Miami, FSU, etc. All the schools that don't get picked up by the SEC and B1G will know right away that their best, and pretty much only option will be to vie for a Big 12 invite.
 
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UConnSportsGuy said:
Because their Presidents decided to go against the advice of BY and think they can get the eastern expansion when the ACC implodes and they will pick up Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Louisville, Duke, etc

It is a risky play as I think establishing the NE presence now with UConn would have given them an advantage over the ACC when the time comes and I think this western only move with only two new western states gives the ACC a better chance of out-surviving the B12. But I guess only time will tell if that is the case.
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But UConn is more valuable than Syracuse, Pittsburgh, or Louisville. Yes, if the ACC implodes they may be able to get Duke and some others who fall shy of the B1G or SEC, but they can't afford to wait until 2036 to expand.

The bottom line is UConn is more valuable than the average current B12 member, so UConn raises the per-school value of the conference. So it makes sense to grow.

I think it's more about who to pair with us, and landing on a good number of schools, and geography / travel costs / identity. If the B12 is committed to going East then UConn will be in. If they want to avoid the East, or need an even number of schools, then it may get tricky.
 
pj said:
But UConn is more valuable than Syracuse, Pittsburgh, or Louisville. Yes, if the ACC implodes they may be able to get Duke and some others who fall shy of the B1G or SEC, but they can't afford to wait until 2036 to expand.

The bottom line is UConn is more valuable than the average current B12 member, so UConn raises the per-school value of the conference. So it makes sense to grow.

I think it's more about who to pair with us, and landing on a good number of schools, and geography / travel costs / identity. If the B12 is committed to going East then UConn will be in. If they want to avoid the East, or need an even number of schools, then it may get tricky.
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According to who? Because we get paid roughly $500k annually for our football rights and $4M annually for our basketball rights. The numbers would seem to disagree with your post.
 
Drew said:
According to who? Because we get paid roughly $500k annually for our football rights and $4M annually for our basketball rights. The numbers would seem to disagree with your post.
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From a TV/markets perspective, UConn is the dominant brand in a mid-size (by population) state with no pro teams, plus significant market penetration in large neighboring markets (New York, New England); a national brand in basketball; and has been competitive in football when it was in a power conference.

Compare the B12 properties: only Kansas compares as the leading brand in its state, but Kansas is a smaller state (3M vs 3.6M), and has pro teams and a competing university (Kansas State). Iowa State has Iowa as a bigger brand in a better conference, UCF is at best the #4 college brand in Florida which also has numerous pro brands, Cincy is second to Ohio State and to numerous pro brands, Baylor/Texas Tech/Houston/TCU are of minor significance compared to Texas, Texas A&M, and pro brands, WVU is a state flagship but in a smaller and poorer state, Oklahoma State and Kansas State are like Iowa State secondary brands in smaller states.

Only Kansas and Colorado would be of comparable value to UConn.

The current payouts are not reflective of brand value, they also depend on who you are playing and quality of distribution. In a major conference UConn football becomes far more valuable. UConn's market adds to the value of all the teams it plays.

And if basketball value devolves from the NCAA to the schools, that will add greatly to UConn's value. No other available school has the same upside.
 
Exit 4 said:
I think the only way ahead is win another national championship in BB this spring and have an 8 win football season. Resilience is the only way forward. A another year of the Frig the world tour.
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Like that would matter to these dopes. We win basketball national championships all the time and they continue to add former Conference USA schools who don't win anything.
 
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Our problem is twofold.
We're worth whatever the Board of a Conference thinks we are in whatever their metric or outside influence determines.
Secondly the networks who are the gatekeepers have us for cheap right now and they would prefer to keep it that way.

Guys like Yormark can be right in their vision over and over and he appeared to have a great plan outlined. But even accomplished adults have their own vision and it doesn't always include what's best long term. And the older you get the shorter that long term is. What's shocking to me is how little time it appears they will take to approve ASU and Utah over us. It's like nothing really matters and Yormark has just had his legs cut out from under. But Rule #1.
 
Exit 4 said:
It wont matter...but its all we can do.

They have their tv money, we have the trophy.
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Agreed, I would never brag about money that's in my pocket I certainly couldn't imagine bragging about money that's not in my pocket. My joy in college sports is watching UConn teams win and the greatest joy is watching them cut down nets.

Stability would certainly be nice but I'll take cutting down more nets over anything.
 
pj said:
But UConn is more valuable than Syracuse, Pittsburgh, or Louisville. Yes, if the ACC implodes they may be able to get Duke and some others who fall shy of the B1G or SEC, but they can't afford to wait until 2036 to expand.

The bottom line is UConn is more valuable than the average current B12 member, so UConn raises the per-school value of the conference. So it makes sense to grow.

I think it's more about who to pair with us, and landing on a good number of schools, and geography / travel costs / identity. If the B12 is committed to going East then UConn will be in. If they want to avoid the East, or need an even number of schools, then it may get tricky.
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UConn may be more valuable than the schools you mention and may be more valuable than the most recent additions to the Big 12, but clearly UConn is not more valuable in the eyes of the power conference presidents and commissioners. When UConn was not invited with Colorado, the hand writing was on the wall. By the way, much maligned Nelson called it when he said we all were crazy hoping for the demise of the PAC 12. He was absolutely correct.
 
buddy said:
UConn may be more valuable than the schools you mention and may be more valuable than the most recent additions to the Big 12, but clearly UConn is not more valuable in the eyes of the power conference presidents and commissioners. When UConn was not invited with Colorado, the hand writing was on the wall. By the way, much maligned Nelson called it when he said we all were crazy hoping for the demise of the PAC 12. He was absolutely correct.
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Why would anyone be rooting for the demise of the Pac 12?
 
superjohn said:
Why would anyone be rooting for the demise of the Pac 12?
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Go back in the posts. He was the only one who said the demise of the PAC 12 will lead to UConn not getting an invite.
 
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