Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

[Jbirdp5]

NCAA rules (I believe) prohibit divisions or pods in conference scheduling.

Prevents divisions? Half the countries conferences are divided into divisions.

 

[Rocktheworld]

The recency bias of ThE BiG12 iS tHe BeSt BaSkEtBalL cOnFeReNcE going on ITT is really something

 

[navery12]

The recency bias of ThE BiG12 iS tHe BeSt BaSkEtBalL cOnFeReNcE going on ITT is really something

Is it really recency bias though? They've been the #1 conference on KenPom 8 of the last 10 years. They were #2 the 2 years they weren't at the top, which was the cancelled NCAA tournament year when they had 2 of the top 3 teams, and the year Baylor steamrolled Gonzaga and won a national championship

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Prevents divisions? Half the countries conferences are divided into divisions.

Which conference has divisions?

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Prevents divisions? Half the countries conferences are divided into divisions.

Conferences are starting to realize divisions have negative consequences within the CFP system.

 

[AzHusky]

The BIG 10 does.
With the 2014 conference expansion, the divisions were realigned and renamed East and West. The East features Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, and Rutgers, while the West comprises Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue, and Wisconsin.

 

[ElGreco]

Which conference has divisions?

SEC for one-East & West.

 

[Zissou]

They ACC remnants would try to build a better football league because the one you are proposing would not be good enough for an auto-bid and would be relegated to G-5 status.

They would either try to steal WVU, Cincy and UCF from the B12 and add UCONN or they would join the B12.

If WVU, Cincy, and UCF were willing to move I could see them then trying to go hybrid to shore up basketball by inviting Nova, StJohns, Gtown but I don't think they would want to swallow the entire Big East.

I don’t think WV, Cincy, or UCF would prefer to change, and I don’t think the B12 would want all of these ACC leftovers

 

[huskymedic]

 

[willie99]

Why can’t UConn go to the ACC?

Well, it appears they're moving into survival mode themselves

Only two conferences stand as the king of the hill, SEC & B10. Everyone else is in the state of fluctuation. Except for maybe the Big East

 

[metsfan2323]

I don’t think WV, Cincy, or UCF would prefer to change, and I don’t think the B12 would want all of these ACC leftovers

Bottom line is if the ACC dissolved all of those schools are going to try to maintain their "Power" status by being in an auto-bid league so your football league proposal will be a non-starter. A majority of those schools will certainly be enticing for the B12, which really highlights why UCONN cannot reject a B12 offer, it may be our last chance to ever secure a seat at the big money football table.

 

[auror]

I love this. Also that guy's twitter pic is exactly the face I would picture with the bio "Strategy Consultant".

 

[Rocktheworld]

Is it really recency bias though? They've been the #1 conference on KenPom 8 of the last 10 years. They were #2 the 2 years they weren't at the top, which was the cancelled NCAA tournament year when they had 2 of the top 3 teams, and the year Baylor steamrolled Gonzaga and won a national championship

Appreciate the KenPom, I wasn’t aware and appreciate that. Maybe I was off on that. It’s just felt like the ACC and SEC at least have been better overall, with different conferences taking turns being the best, but maybe not.

 

[Rocktheworld]

That’s wild and I really appreciate the graphics.

Wow on Cincinnati research and KU being as bad a school overall that it is.

 

[WestHartHusk]

That’s wild and I really appreciate the graphics.

Wow on Cincinnati research and KU being as bad a school overall that it is.

Kansas isn’t that surprising when you think about the fact that it is the state university of…Kansas.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Well, it appears they're moving into survival mode themselves

Only two conferences stand as the king of the hill, SEC & B10. Everyone else is in the state of fluctuation. Except for maybe the Big East

There is a meaningful probability that football eventually breaks off and has its entire own set of rules and conferences.

Yet most of this board is proposing that UConn move ALL sports to a flyover league that is about to lose its two highest profile programs because that league happens to have a big contract, for now. What happens if football breaks off and sets up its own conferences and eligibility rules? UConn is in a league with Iowa State and Texas Tech for women's basketball and field hockey, etc.

There will never be a P2 for basketball, especially if one of those two is the SEC. It will simply never happen. So everyone using that as a bogeyman to justify joining the Big 12 is either disingenuous or stupid, or both.

I would be fine with joining the ACC and Big 10 for all sports, but the Big 12 seems crazy. Just wait a few years. The conference landscape is going to change, and I think the chances of football breaking off is much higher than the Big 12 surviving as part of a "P3" with the Big 10 and SEC. Yet most of this board would bet UConn's entire athletic future on being in a league with Iowa State and Texas Tech. These are the same "football drives the bus" people that thought being in a league with Tulane and Tulsa was the way to go.

Whoever said that the Big East will NEVER let us back if we leave was 100% right. If we are going to leave, it better be for a higher potential option than the mud hut that the Big 12 Commissioner is putting together. That is going to fail, and when it does, it will be the end of UConn athletics if UConn has joined it.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Honestly, if the ACC was smart, they would just vote to let all their football programs leave and reform a new conference. This would get them out of the ESPN clusterfudge and still maintain their conference for all other sports.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I wonder if UConn is doing this to try to get an ACC invitation.

 

[Kolumbo]

If the ACC 7 split, pick up the remnants and add Temple.

4 hoops pods, play within pod twice and other pods once for a 18 game conference schedule.

• UConn, Providence, Boston College, Seton Hall, Temple
• Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Syracuse, St. John's
• DePaul, Marquette, Butler, Creighton, Xavier
• Duke, Georgia Tech, Wake, Louisville, Pitt

Football:

• Boston College, Duke, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt, Wake, UConn, Villanova, Temple

You lost me at BCU. If we are talking about the Big East inviting remnants, BCU will rot in the NE-10 before I vote to let them in.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Kansas isn’t that surprising when you think about the fact that it is the state university of…Kansas.

But they’re AAU and do have a lengthy history, so I guess that leads to giving the benefit of a doubt. I never thought they were some public Ivy but not in the 100s

 

[bendm]

https://247sports.com/article/acc-realignment-league-considered-at-least-four-

WVU, SMU, Washington and Oregon. UConn still not getting an invite to the ACC

 

[bendm]

There is a meaningful probability that football eventually breaks off and has its entire own set of rules and conferences.

Yet most of this board is proposing that UConn move ALL sports to a flyover league that is about to lose its two highest profile programs because that league happens to have a big contract, for now.

but why not cash $30 million checks every year until then?

Being in the big12 will also give UConn a better chance of being included in the conference that gets cobbled together among the schools from the big12 and acc that don’t get invited to the breakaway football division, which will be most of them.

 

[Jbirdp5]

Which conference has divisions?

The SEC has east and west divisions the Big 10 has 2 also

 

[Ratso]

every major conference wants the nyc market

 

[hank970]

But they’re AAU and do have a lengthy history, so I guess that leads to giving the benefit of a doubt. I never thought they were some public Ivy but not in the 100s

Though Kansas was a founding member of the AAU, its current status is a bit tenuous. A lot of non-AAU schools have far better metrics. Does the AAU make an allowance for Kansas for old time's sake, or does Kansas quietly go the way of Syracuse and Nebraska? UAB, NC State, Cincy, VT, and several others are knocking on the door.