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Guru13 said:
The one were Clercius had no corner on him and Zion did not look his way, plus took forever get the snap off before ’ Marshall called a timeout will be one I’ll never forget
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Hearing these comments from people whom were actually in the stands, at the game, is insightful for those of us back home watching on TV only seeing the part of the field that the camera shows us.

If attendees are universally saying that WRs are open but not being targeted by ZT then that’s hard evidence about the limit of his capabilities.

It appears that the coaches are solidly behind him though. Kind of a head scratcher. He has certain leadership qualities you want in a QB…like toughness mentally and physically. But not the talent.
 
MuchoDogYears said:
Hearing these comments from people whom were actually in the stands, at the game, is insightful for those of us back home watching on TV only seeing the part of the field that the camera shows us.

If attendees are universally saying that WRs are open but not being targeted by ZT then that’s hard evidence about the limit of his capabilities.

It appears that the coaches are solidly behind him though. Kind of a head scratcher. He has certain leadership qualities you want in a QB…like toughness mentally and physically. But not the talent.
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Not a head scratcher to me. He's the best they got according to the coaches. They feel others on the roster would not do as well. So, as the head coach you support, coach and encourage him. Doesn't mean he won't get recruited over or Roberson takes his spot next year. What's really great about Mora is how he supports everyone on the roster who puts in the effort regardless of their success. Doesn't mean guys won't improve or better talent will be added.
 
While I agree that ZT need some work if he wants to hold on to the number one spot at QB, what I would pay to see ZT have a healthy running back core (5 capable RB's, count 'em 5) and Ross, Marion, Joly and Aaron Turner (4 very capable WR/TE) for a full season.

Oh what might have been. Or might not have been. We will never know.

What a fun year.
 
I’m quite sure number 1 on Mora’s Christmas list is a QB. It’s disappointing to see how limited ZT’s capabilities have developed.
 
Outside of a few QBs, true freshman QBs are not going to play well. So, I think ZT will improve. That said, I think every position has to have competition and you bring in the best talent you can at every position including QB.
 
The most prized attribute in a QB is processing speed...a QB that can see the entire field, process who the open target is, and hit that target, has the makings of a great QB.

Arm strength, speed, etc., is secondary in my opinion.
 
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jdb50 said:
Zion did his best this year. He is not a runner. He runs only when protection breaks down. He does not have top level speed. Why Charlton led off the game with that play is mind boggling. 12 and 3/4 games in I am not seeing it for ZT to be handed the job next year. He needs to work on his running speed and decision making bigtime. Finding open receivers, more accurate downfield throws and a midrange passing game instead of all short screens has to be found or next year will be very disappointing. Some of the receivers looked unhappy today. ZT needs to be way better for UConn to get to where Coach Mora wants to go.
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That seems like a mountain of work. I hope he can do it but I wouldn't count on all of it being cured. And no he doesn't have WR speed. I wasn't kidding during the season when I suggested that instead of Millen for the option plays maybe Rosa could run them. That's when we had 3 solid rb's. But ZT does throw a nice deep ball most of the time, and when he misses it's not by much. That said there needs to be a competition in '23.
 
billybud said:
The most prized attribute in a QB is processing speed...a QB that can see the entire field, process who the open target is, and hit that target, has the makings of a great QB.

Arm strength, speed, etc., is secondary in my opinion.
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Actually a great point. Quick release with accuracy is next in line.
 
A really good QB can change this football program and I do not think that QB is on our roster currently unfortunately
 
I'm sure there will be a true competition this spring at QB and there will be at least one portal QB to push that challenge. And I would expect another portal QB to come in July if the spring competition underwhelms.

It was a tough crash course of a season. ZT got the job done for a six wins and for that I am very grateful. Thanks ZT.
 
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HuskyDogArt said:
A true freshman led a team that was 1- 11 last year to a bowl game this year and you are unhappy. Can you do better?
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That's not the question. You think he was the unique contribution that lead to 6-6? He wasn't.

edit: he is a true freshman. Can he improve? Sure. Is he the starter going into next season? Without serious improvement I sure hope not. He made some really stunning plays that almost prove no progression. Especially that last interception where he threw a dodo right into the middle of the end-zone. He doesn't have the speed necessary to be a speed QB and if he was we would have used it. He doesn't have the accuracy and can't read well. Can he improve these things? Sure. Do I want to rely on that for next season. No.

I think this coddling attitude is backwards thinking.
 
Yeah he was a true freshman, yea he played his heart out, yea I'm sure he's a lovely kid, but we need to bring in transferS to compete for the starting job next year. He literally handed them the final difference in the first two drives, with turnovers that are frankly embarrassing. Maybe he can learn and improve. He'll have a chance to show it in the spring and onward.
 
Exit 4 said:
I'm sure there will be a true competition this spring at QB and there will be at least one portal QB to push that challenge. And I would expect another portal QB to come in July if the spring competition underwhelms.

It was a tough crash course of a season. ZT got the job done for a six wins and for that I am very grateful. Thanks ZT.
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Can’t wait until spring. That’s too late. This is idiotic Edsall type thinking.

We need a QB or three on campus. Now.
 
Guru13 said:
The one were Clercius had no corner on him and Zion did not look his way, plus took forever get the snap off before ’ Marshall called a timeout will be one I’ll never forget
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He plays behind the game. He deserves a year on the sideline to watch. Maybe things will slow down for him,
 
Incursio007 said:
To be fair, even when he tries to push the ball down the field his receivers just get tackled before getting a chance to make the catch.

That no call was absurd, but the penalty on Mora afterwards is ludicrous.
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He needs to lead the receivers. The PIs occurred because the balls were slightly underthrown.
 
ZooCougar said:
Can’t wait until spring. That’s too late. This is idiotic Edsall type thinking.

We need a QB or three on campus. Now.
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You drunk again? You’re THE guy that didn’t believe the Spanos-Mora rift was real. Sit this one out!

Btw- reading impaired? We are getting a portal QB tomorrow- someone that will be here in January ready to play.
 
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I think that QB is the position on this team that has both a. the most room to improve b. the most potential to improve. If we are being honest this year's qb play was disastrous but we were able to overcome that and have a super fun season. However I am almost certain that our QB play will be better next year with a floor of slightly better and a ceiling of way better. Next year we will theoretically have a competition between Turner, millen, and probably others and turner will need drastic improvement to retain the spot. The good news is that true freshman often times get alot better
 
Exit 4 said:
You drunk again? You’re THE guy that didn’t believe the Spanos-Mora rift was real. Sit this one out!

Btw- reading impaired? We are getting a portal QB tomorrow- someone that will be here in January ready to play.
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Remove wait until spring from your mindset then. You guys have a loser mentality.

You supported Edsall. Sit the next decade out.
 
ZooCougar said:
Remove wait until spring from your mindset then. You guys have a loser mentality.

You supported Edsall. Sit the next decade out.
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Sorry you are slow on the uptake. Sorry you don’t understand what a QB battle in the spring means and a potential second battle in the fall if you don’t like the results. I can’t help you.

As for Edsall- I’m not fond of pulling down coaches and/or players on message boards. I think my leash on the Edsall 2.0 era was pretty much the same as everyone else. If you want to pretend I was some sort of fanboy that’s your issue. You do show comprehension issues - so par for the course.
 
Just to stir it up a bit more...but have we heard the whole story on why Tyler P didn't play a snap this year? I think we all assume that he wasn't fully recovered from his injury...but has Mora ever said that? The last I heard from Mora, I believe was early in the season and he said Tyler was good to go.

Just curious if his lack of playing time was completely injury related...or capability related?
 
I'm OK with ZT's performance as a true frosh who wasn't planning on playing much this year, never mind starting. I'm willing to see how he develops and give him a shot to earn the job again. That said, yes, hit the portal. Having an older, experienced QB while we develop ZT, Puma, etc. will help them and the team.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Just to stir it up a bit more...but have we heard the whole story on why Tyler P didn't play a snap this year? I think we all assume that he wasn't fully recovered from his injury...but has Mora ever said that? The last I heard from Mora, I believe was early in the season and he said Tyler was good to go.

Just curious if his lack of playing time was completely injury related...or capability related?
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As I just posted in the other QB thread Shaky, we don’t know. And the press has failed miserably at following up on this as the season progressed. But the fact that a totally unable to throw back up QB came in in the 1st Q yesterday says to me that either TP was never going to play this year because he just hadn’t recovered yet from the knee, or that he was never going to play this year because he’s not even in the QB room.
 
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Dizzy21 said:
He needs to lead the receivers. The PIs occurred because the balls were slightly underthrown.
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There was no PI on the play I was referencing, unfortunately.
 
businesslawyer said:
As I just posted in the other QB thread Shaky, we don’t know. And the press has failed miserably at following up on this as the season progressed. But the fact that a totally unable to throw back up QB came in in the 1st Q yesterday says to me that either Tyler Phommachanh was never going to play this year because he just hadn’t recovered yet from the knee, or that he was never going to play this year because he’s not even in the QB room.
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FWIW, I was fortunate enough to sit 6 rows behind the UConn bench during the UMass game, and observed the players on the sideline. TP was active walking around, and throwing the ball back and forth with Millen and/or Zermeno. However he had a very large knee brace and appeared to have a bit of a limp. If I had to guess, I'd say his knee had not fully recovered yet.

I do agree, the press coverage of the team, i.e. more probing issues (TP's knee, Edsall in Florida, etc.) leaves a lot to be desired.
 
Palatine said:
There were numerous plays today where he could have thrown a WR open. Throwing inside instead of outside, or deeper instead of short. He is beyond his skillset.
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All season long it has been a problem. Open guys who were not thrown too. The “we never had open receivers” line is another of the Boneyard myths.
 
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