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"Plan B" ?

"If the UConn is jilted by the Big 12, should they leave the AAC, rejoin the Big East?

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I don't know. We're all kind of Boise St fans in a way. It kind of depends on how this info is gathered. My guess is the majority of the "Boise fans" are just underdog fans and they aren't really invested in Boise St. More like, they'd like to see Boise beat FSU or UT in a major bowl because it is fun. I've never met one BSU fan in my entire life.
 
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I believe those maps are based on Reddit user mentions for each school. I really don't put much stock into it.
 
ZOOCONN said:
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for comparison this is UConns.... they have a tremendous following not only in their market but across the entire country. it again has nothing to do with geography, physical location or otherwise. outside of football and demographic/ fan following every metric is poor for them.
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Great. Here is a map of the United States:
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The small oasis of 50-249 people per square mile in southwest Idaho with the swaths of surrounding land where less than 10 people per square mile live? That's Boise.

I'll leave you to be the only person who thinks the 107th ranked market surrounded by three to four hours of highway in any direction before hitting a city of consequence is beneficial for the B12 to add when they are trying to get a network onto cable systems in their home team's DMAs.
 
UConn Dan said:
I believe those maps are based on Reddit user mentions for each school. I really don't put much stock into it.
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Every time I just see the word Reddit, I feel stoopider. Frickin' insane asylum. :eek:
 
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Hoophound said:
I don't know. We're all kind of Boise St fans in a way. It kind of depends on how this info is gathered. My guess is the majority of the "Boise fans" are just underdog fans and they aren't really invested in Boise St. More like, they'd like to see Boise beat FSU or UT in a major bowl because it is fun. I've never met one BSU fan in my entire life.
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did you go to the BSU game at the rent? i met ppl that drove from Delaware to come to that game. they had a great fan turnout
 
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MattMang23 said:
Great. Here is a map of the United States:View attachment 15192

The small oasis of 50-249 people per square mile in southwest Idaho with the swaths of surrounding land where less than 10 people per square mile live? That's Boise.

I'll leave you to be the only person who thinks the 107th ranked market surrounded by three to four hours of highway in any direction before hitting a city of consequence is beneficial for the B12 to add when they are trying to get a network onto cable systems in their home team's DMAs.
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apparently you struggle with basic concepts like the dude, is that why he is your AVI? or are you in fact the DUDE?! again I never at any point said boise should be in the B12, not even once. What I said was, this decision will not be based on football success alone and they have a following coast to coast. again, Boise should not be in the B12.
 
ZOOCONN said:
apparently you struggle with basic concepts like the dude, is that why he is your AVI? or are you in fact the DUDE?! again I never at any point said boise should be in the B12, not even once. What I said was, this decision will not be based on football success alone and they have a following coast to coast. again, Boise should not be in the B12.
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You said they aren't sniffing an offer because they're not in fertile recruiting ground. I said they're not sniffing an offer because only tumbleweeds live in Boise and beyond. You then told me that their geography should not matter because airplanes have been invented. I went on to 'splain why their geography matters when no one lives there (something about if people don't live there, then people can't own TVs on which a cable network would be placed).

I get the concept. You think their fan base is ginormous because a couple people in Delaware using Reddit typed their school's name. I'm telling you that the one thing you find appealing about them- the apparent size of their fan base- a) (new point now) is misleading. (If you think that many people around the country really care about Boise St. football, when they have a total of 75,000 living alumni and their student population is 86% Idaho residents, I have a screen-doored submarine I'd like to sell you), and b) is irrelevant if no one lives in Boise, ID or anywhere close to surrounding it. If there are no TVs on which to put a cable network, it's awfully hard to sell subscriptions.

Granted, you never said you would select them for the Big 12, and I freely admit to taking liberties attacking such a position in previous posts, but the one thing you are vouching for them on- fan base size- is a crock.
 
so how do you feel about UConns supposed fanbase?
 
ZOOCONN said:
so how do you feel about UConns supposed fanbase?
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It is concentrated in the Northeast corridor and has massive growth potential given TV partnerships with SNY (which broadcasts to the 8.04 million people in NYC alone plus the additional, what, 15 million people in CT, Long Island, Hudson Valley, North Jersey, and Palm Beach County, FL) and the potential for a possible Big 12 network to be placed on the basic cable packages of potentially, at least, 6-8 million people in the CT, Western Mass and Southeast New York regions.

UConn dominates a very populous region. We also have over three times the amount of living alumni that Boise has. And our alumni are living in a very diverse group of places from the regional hubs like Boston and New York to a somewhat sizable community in the Los Angeles and San Diego areas out west. The fan base, for football anyway, isn't currently enormous by any stretch, but UConn is in an inherently better position than a school like Boise to grow into a monster.
 
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sportsart said:
Every time I just see the word Reddit, I feel stoopider. Frickin' insane asylum. :eek:
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/r/cfb is probably the best college football board ever created. If you detach any sort of fandom from it, it's really an incredible community. The quality of posts and the verified officials and players make it a very interesting place. You can't find more information in a consolidated space for the college football world. There are things I read about from articles posted to /r/cfb that I find popping up on MSM weeks later.
 
MattMang23 said:
Many of us are UConn grads. We can understand you. We are a public Ivy, you know. It's just not often someone doth giveth us fine gentlemen their musings in an olde English format like ye hath bequeathed upon thine audience.
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For what it's worth, Shakespeare wrote in Early Modern English, not Old English, which is basically closer to German than it is to Modern English.
 
uconnbill said:
You've been pushing for UConn to basically drop football to play in the Big East for awhile now. I want to see UConn in a Power Conference and the Big East is not one.
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Yeah, ..... every UConn fan wants its athletics in a P5 conference, but unfortunately that may not be possible..... but the question which started this thread was, If UConn is jilted by the Big 12, should UConn leave the AAC for the Big Easy?

So ..... IF UConn is denied B12 membership, and IF it appears that P5 Conference expansion will be on hold for many years then IMO UConn should pivot towards the Big East to protect its men's and women's basketball programs. If UConn becomes stranded in the AAC (hello: ECU, Tulsa, UCF, and others) then it should seek membership in the Big East which will be a far better basketball league than the AAC without Cincinnati.
 
Bobol said:
Yeah, ..... every UConn fan wants its athletics in a P5 conference, but unfortunately that may not be possible..... but the question which started this thread was, If UConn is jilted by the Big 12, should UConn leave the AAC for the Big Easy?

So ..... IF UConn is denied B12 membership, and IF it appears that P5 Conference expansion will be on hold for many years then IMO UConn should pivot towards the Big East to protect its men's and women's basketball programs. If UConn becomes stranded in the AAC (hello: ECU, Tulsa, UCF, and others) then it should seek membership in the Big East which will be a far better basketball league than the AAC without Cincinnati.
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The alternate Plan B, since I don't really see the Big East as viable or frankly desirable, is to push Temple, Memphis, UConn, Cincinatti, USF UCF and SMU or whoever is left among them to do the necessary things to return to the levels they all played at a few years ago. Or in SMUs case stay where they got to under Brown. That might require schools to replace coaches even popular ones who under perform. This league desperately needs a couple of teams to make deep runs in March--Elite 8/Final 4 type runs. And UConn needs to be the leader in that regard. We can complains all we want about the AAC but when we regularly lose 6-8 games and finish in the middle of the pack in the league it is a bit disingenuous to claim we are too good for it. Time to put up and be the lead dog again. If that means replacing the head coach with a big name guy because of another lackluster 11-7 season and 2nd round ouster in the tournament we need to do it. And Cincy needs to do the same with Cronin and Temple needs to lay down the law to Dunphy. Continued mediocrity won't be accepted.
 
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freescooter said:
The alternate Plan B, since I don't really see the Big East as viable or frankly desirable, is to push Temple, Memphis, UConn, Cincinatti, USF UCF and SMU or whoever is left among them to do the necessary things to return to the levels they all played at a few years ago. Or in SMUs case stay where they got to under Brown. That might require schools to replace coaches even popular ones who under perform. This league desperately needs a couple of teams to make deep runs in March--Elite 8/Final 4 type runs. And UConn needs to be the leader in that regard. We can complains all we want about the AAC but when we regularly lose 6-8 games and finish in the middle of the pack in the league it is a bit disingenuous to claim we are too good for it. Time to put up and be the lead dog again. If that means replacing the head coach with a big name guy because of another lackluster 11-7 season and 2nd round ouster in the tournament we need to do it. And Cincy needs to do the same with Cronin and Temple needs to lay down the law to Dunphy. Continued mediocrity won't be accepted.
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Lol this guy
 
CallMeBruce said:
Lol this guy
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'Cause we have been the dominant team in the American. The reality is that if UConn Memphis and Temple in particular hadn't under-performed this league wouldn't be half bad. We have lost 6,7 and 8 games in this supposedly poor league. Never finished higher than 3rd. Tell me again why we don't belong. If everyone performed up to where they should this should be a 4-6 bid league every year. Instead programs have allowed the excuse that the league is weak get under-performing coaches off the hook. Including ours.
 
Just let them keep doing what they've been doing, that's the ticket. In 5 years UConn can be like that fighter "I used to be somebody." Or we can tell Ollie "Produce or get the heck out and we'll get somebody who will." And Temple should say it to Dunphy and Memphis should tell their guy. Look when his thing was put together it looked like a league with a pretty solid group at the top. UConn, Cincy, Temple, Memphis all were Top 25 programs on a regular basis. Regular tournament teams. UCF and USF LOOKED To be on the doorstep of solid. Since then only Cronin has kept his team where it has always been. Ollie had a great run in 2014 no doubt but since then has been mediocre at best. Same with Dunphy. Memphis is a mess. Maybe Tubby gets it straightened out. But that is an example of what I mean.
 
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AZHuskiePop said:
That's probably due to the strong influence of William Shakespere on my writing style.
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....or perhaps Robert Frost:

Whose board this is I think I know.
I do not think he's looking though.
He will not me filled with dread.
Posting commentary in the wrong thread.
 
freescooter said:
Just let them keep doing what they've been doing, that's the ticket. In 5 years UConn can be like that fighter "I used to be somebody." Or we can tell Ollie "Produce or get the heck out and we'll get somebody who will." And Temple should say it to Dunphy and Memphis should tell their guy. Look when his thing was put together it looked like a league with a pretty solid group at the top. UConn, Cincy, Temple, Memphis all were Top 25 programs on a regular basis. Regular tournament teams. UCF and USF LOOKED To be on the doorstep of solid. Since then only Cronin has kept his team where it has always been. Ollie had a great run in 2014 no doubt but since then has been mediocre at best. Same with Dunphy. Memphis is a mess. Maybe Tubby gets it straightened out. But that is an example of what I mean.
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Dude there's a lot going on here that is absurd, but I'll just say that your premise that these schools are actively trying to NOT win at the moment is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever read here.
 
I didn't say that. He'll Tulane is "trying to win." UCONN BEFORE Calhoun was "trying to win." They aren't succeeding yet they all did before. Time to hold coaches feet to the fire and make changes if they don't actually win. Either do or don't do. Forget trying.
 
freescooter said:
I didn't say that. He'll Tulane is "trying to win." UCONN BEFORE Calhoun was "trying to win." They aren't succeeding yet they all did before. Time to hold coaches feet to the fire and make changes if they don't actually win. Either do or don't do. Forget trying.
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Ok, Yoda.
 
freescooter said:
I didn't say that. He'll Tulane is "trying to win." UCONN BEFORE Calhoun was "trying to win." They aren't succeeding yet they all did before. Time to hold coaches feet to the fire and make changes if they don't actually win. Either do or don't do. Forget trying.
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What constitutes "winning" by your definition? Can we assume that this isn't it?
 
freescooter said:
Just let them keep doing what they've been doing, that's the ticket. In 5 years UConn can be like that fighter "I used to be somebody." Or we can tell Ollie "Produce or get the heck out and we'll get somebody who will."
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Produce a national title, a league title, NBA draft picks and a top 10 recruiting class, you mean?
 
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