Pitino on JC (and others) - NY Post

[Marty Jackson]

how often does someone try to make a point then have it blow up in their face because someone calls BS.
Who cares about SWMSU? Why are they even relevant?
Did we just decide to add them over Tulsa?

 

[sdhusky]

LOL jacka**. The Massey rankings are the AVERAGE OF ALL THE OTHER COMPUTER RANKINGS.

So your argument is you are right and everyone else is wrong and your strongest point is that a basketball coach who would never in 1000x years worry about mid-major basketball used their name from a decade ago.

Will you just fu&:$ng say you were wrong. Will you just say you have no clue when it comes to the subject. Just play the Pitino card and it's below you. It's an easy out.

I remember the time that Upstater "Saw" Edsall call timeout and went on for about 5 pages complaining about it until I posted the frame by frame pictures from the game showing that he was full of crap.

Only then, did he slink away. But still defiant.

 

[nomar]

Yes, you are wrong. Instead of just saying - I don't follow mid major basketball and I don't realize that Missouri State is a better program than SMU you'd prefer to keep attacking me and calling me names.

I get that very few people care about mid-major basketball. But if you don't care and are ignorant about the subject don't try and tell me what is right and what is wrong.

You are wrong. Just admit it and move on.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT

 

[upstater]

I remember the time that Upstater "Saw" Edsall call timeout and went on for about 5 pages complaining about it until I posted the frame by frame pictures from the game showing that he was full of crap.

Only then, did he slink away. But still defiant.

You remember the one time I was wrong? Good memory.

BTW, you're the only one on this board who was caught out (2 months ago) in a whale of a lie (pardon the pun) and couldn't admit it.

 

[whaler11]

It's a deflection now to note that conference RPI doesn't mean a damn thing. This is laughable!

Good lord. I didn't post RPI. It's a deflection because the conversation was about two specific programs. Not how MWC manipulated computer rankings.

This is actually just another deflection.

You can go on and on that CUSA was better than the MVC this year. You are wrong. Every observer from computer to human would tell you that you are wrong. Is it really just so difficult to say you know what, Missouri State has been better than SMU the last few decades. They have a much better fan base and some people actually care about the program.

You don't follow it and don't know. Is it that hard to just say you know what.... I. was wrong. Really it's about SMU and Missouri State. Why not just dig in
on the next one, you might get some respect for just admitting you were wrong.

 

[upstater]

Good lord. I didn't post RPI. It's a deflection because the conversation was about two specific programs. Not how MWC manipulated computer rankings.

This is actually just another deflection.

You can go on and on that CUSA was better than the MVC this year. You are wrong. Every observer from computer to human would tell you that you are wrong. Is it really just so difficult to say you know what, Missouri State has been better than SMU the last few decades. They have a much better fan base and some people actually care about the program.

You don't follow it and don't know. Is it that hard to just say you know what.... I. was wrong. Really it's about SMU and Missouri State. Why not just dig in
on the next one, you might get some respect for just admitting you were wrong.

You are totally running away from what you wrote. You were comparing conferences and you know it. That's why you posted that chart in the first place. What a BS'r you are!

 

[whaler11]

You are totally running away from what you wrote. You were comparing conferences and you know it. That's why you posted that chart in the first place. What a BS'r you are!

Holy christ you are an idiot. It's honestly hard to believe that someone could be this stubbornly wrong about something.

Waylon would even admit he was wrong at this point. This is an impressive display of ignorance.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Well Missouri State has a better program than SMU. Historically their attendance is 400% higher than SMU.

I don't think he's trying to get a shot in against SMU everyone knows they are a joke. He was actually trying to compliment the guy.

And he said the women, who are better still. Used to be a very solid women's program.

 

[upstater]

Holy christ you are an idiot. It's honestly hard to believe that someone could be this stubbornly wrong about something.

Waylon would even admit he was wrong at this point. This is an impressive display of ignorance.

You couldn't be more wrong on this one. Now when I showed you how you totally tried to deflect things with your idiotic post about conference RPI, you're running away as fast as you can.

Why?

Because you're absolutely wrong and you know it. Top to bottom, CUSA was better.

This is typical of you, when you're caught out, deflect. Change the subject. And when you're wrong there, change it again.

 

[whaler11]

And he said the women, who are better still. Used to be a very solid women's program.

Yes I ignored the fact he said women who had a very famous player.

 

[whaler11]

You couldn't be more wrong on this one. Now when I showed you how you totally tried to deflect things with your idiotic post about conference RPI, you're running away as fast as you can.

Why?

Because you're absolutely wrong and you know it. Top to bottom, CUSA was better.

This is typical of you, when you're caught out, deflect. Change the subject. And when you're wrong there, change it again.

I am going to admit. I used to actually value your opinion on academics when you were pontificating.

I feel stupid now. You are a complete idiot.

I have not in any way shape or form commented on RPI. I never will. The RPI is moronic.

The Pomeroys are valuable. The Massey averages are useful.

If you think Missouri State is named Southwest Missouri State you should go back to 2004. Because that was the last year it existed.

I feel bad that you are this stupid. Nobody who cares about mid major
college basketball would argue CUSA was better than the MVC this year.

EVERY SINGLE COMPUTER RANKING TELLS YOU IT ISN'T THE CASE.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO WATCHES WITH THEIR EYES TELLS YOU IT ISN'T THE CASE.

I know you don't understand the computer rankings and seem to confuse 'RPI' with legitimate computer rankings. I'm am sorry for you. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Your Paterno stuff was embarrassing but I figured you were just blinded by PSU love. Turns out you are actually just stupid. I'm actually a bit disappointed for you.

The next time you weigh in on some obscure school's academics... Will
you be as wrong as you were on this topic?

 

[upstater]

I am going to admit. I used to actually value your opinion on academics when you were pontificating.

I feel stupid now. You are a complete idiot.

I have not in any way shape or form commented on RPI. I never will. The RPI is moronic.

Are you addled in the brain? You posted a graph of top RPIs by conference in this very thread. Then you wrote you don't care about conference RPIs. Are you a delusional schizophrenic or something? You posted it! Now you're claiming you didn't! Are you from Southwest Missouri? In point of fact, my original post referred to the same school that Pitino mentioned. Why? Because I was commenting on what Pitino said!

 

[whaler11]

Are you addled in the brain? You posted a graph of top RPIs by conference in this very thread. Then you wrote you don't care about conference RPIs. Are you a delusional schizophrenic or something? You posted it! Now you're claiming you didn't! Are you from Southwest Missouri? In point of fact, my original post referred to the same school that Pitino mentioned. Why? Because I was commenting on what Pitino said!

Upstater. You are lost. I posted the Massey conference ratings. Try Google and see they aren't related to RPI

You originally tried to argue SMU and Southwest Missouri State. You excuse for being ignorant about their name change 8 years ago is that Pitino is unaware.

You claim to be the resident expert on academics. Is it really to much to ask that you know the names of the schools you are pontificating about?

Jack***. People who know the basketball programs at SMU and Missouri State know that Missouri State has been called Missouri State for a decade.

This is embarrassing for you. For PSU. For Buffalo. For anyone associated with you academically.

 

[upstater]

Upstater. You are lost. I posted the Massey conference ratings. Try Google and see they aren't related to RPI

You originally tried to argue SMU and Southwest Missouri State. You excuse for being ignorant about their name change 8 years ago is that Pitino is unaware.

You claim to be the resident expert on academics. Is it really to much to ask that you know the names of the schools you are pontificating about?

Jack***. People who know the basketball programs at SMU and Missouri State know that Missouri State has been called Missouri State for a decade.

This is embarrassing for you. For PSU. For Buffalo. For anyone associated with you academically.

I really don't give a shit about a nowhere school in bumfuck Missouri. It's still a nowhere school. And that, at the end of the day, was my original point. You seem to think they are good. But they suck! As does your whole take on this.

You posted the Massey ratings without even knowing what they are. You wrote they are not related to RPI. My god, how stupid are you?

 

[whaler11]

I really don't give a about a nowhere school in bum Missouri. It's still a nowhere school. And that, at the end of the day, was my original point. You seem to think they are good. But they suck! As does your whole take on this.

You posted the Massey ratings without even knowing what they are. You wrote they are not related to RPI. My god, how stupid are you?

Oh so this is your fallback. You are worthy of judging mid major basketball programs even though you don't follow closely enough to know their names.

I can't wait for you to tell me how computer rankings I posted are related to RPI.

Oh and I know Missouri State isn't good. I just know they have a better program than SMU.

 

[upstater]

Oh so this is your fallback. You are worthy of judging mid major basketball programs even though you don't follow closely enough to know their names.

I can't wait for you to tell me how computer rankings I posted are related to RPI.

Oh and I know Missouri State isn't good. I just know they have a better program than SMU.

Pitino is in the national basketball championship game. This is his business. Not mine. And he doesn't know the school's name. Why? Because it is a nothing school in east bumfark. That's why. And that was my original point! Go back and read it! Shit school--as opposed to SMU--which isn't!

 

[whaler11]

Pitino is in the national basketball championship game. This is his business. Not mine. And he doesn't know the school's name. Why? Because it is a nothing school in east bumfark. That's why. And that was my original point! Go back and read it! school--as opposed to SMU--which isn't!

I know what your original point was. Your point was wrong. If you'd like to
excuse your ignorance with his this is fine. If you make a stupid point about a player is the fact that Charles Barkley is clueless a legitimate defense?

Missouri State has a better program than SMU. You didn't know that. Just admit it and move on.

Also, East Bumfark? Springfield's population is 160,000. And the ridiculous irony of someone from Upstate NY calling any other place on earth a name... As if it matters anyway especially for fans of a team from Storrs, Connecticut.

 

[upstater]

I know what your original point was. Your point was wrong. If you'd like to
excuse your ignorance with his this is fine. If you make a stupid point about a player is the fact that Charles Barkley is clueless a legitimate defense?

Missouri State has a better program than SMU. You didn't know that. Just admit it and move on.

Also, East Bumfark? Springfield's population is 160,000. And the ridiculous irony of someone from Upstate NY calling any other place on earth a name... As if it matters anyway especially for fans of a team from Storrs, Connecticut.

Upstate, NY is a civilized beautiful place. SWMissouri is the hinterland just north of the Ozarks. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

But back to my original point:

Q: Larry Brown?
A: Larry Brown is, to me, an amazing man. The fact that he could love this game as much as he loves it, and still want to coach at an SMU, just is what I hope all coaches are all about, because he still loves to teach the game, regardless of where it may be. I really believe that Larry, if you gave him the women’s basketball job at Southwest Missouri State, he’d say, “You know what? I just really love teaching these kids.” And that’s an amazing quality to have.​

Translation: SMU is a crap school, might as well be a nowhere school like SWMSU.

The bold is what you took exception to. Ridiculous!

 

[whaler11]

Upstate, NY is a civilized beautiful place. SWMissouri is the hinterland just north of the Ozarks. It's sad that you don't know the difference.

But back to my original point:

Q: Larry Brown?
A: Larry Brown is, to me, an amazing man. The fact that he could love this game as much as he loves it, and still want to coach at an SMU, just is what I hope all coaches are all about, because he still loves to teach the game, regardless of where it may be. I really believe that Larry, if you gave him the women’s basketball job at Southwest Missouri State, he’d say, “You know what? I just really love teaching these kids.” And that’s an amazing quality to have.​

Translation: SMU is a crap school, might as well be a nowhere school like SWMSU.

The bold is what you took exception to. Ridiculous!

I can't see what's bold but he is merely complimenting Brown not taking a shot at SMU.

I've only taken exception to your BS since where you've continued to pile nonsense on top of nonsense.

 

[upstater]

I can't see what's bold but he is merely complimenting Brown not taking a shot at SMU.

I've only taken exception to your BS since where you've continued to pile nonsense on top of nonsense.

I happen to think the former SWMOST is a bad school out in bumfuck. You have a much higher opinion of them. You tried to show me that their conference is better than CUSA, and all you succeeded in doing is in showing why Massey ratings are faulty. That's the bottom line. I'd rather be SMU any day of the week when it comes to school, location, sports, men's basketball, conference, whatever--up and down the line.

 

[UC990411]

This might be the worst thread ever...

 

[aceboon]

you guys seriously have to let it go

 

[whaler11]

I happen to think the former SWMOST is a bad school out in bum . You have a much higher opinion of them. You tried to show me that their conference is better than CUSA, and all you succeeded in doing is in showing why Massey ratings are faulty. That's the bottom line. I'd rather be SMU any day of the week when it comes to school, location, sports, men's basketball, conference, whatever--up and down the line.

The Missouri Valley is better. You still don't get the ratings anyway. The Massey Ratings are showing you that every computer ranking has the MVC over CUSA.

So either every observer and computer ranking is wrong - or you are. The guy who doesn't even know the names of the schools and probably couldn't name the schools in the Valley without looking them up.

Yes, every computer ranking is wrong. And the basis for this conclusion is your opinion that CUSA is better. Which you've arrived at by not knowing anything about the Valley.

Quite an academic you are. That's some solid science you are using.

 

[upstater]

The Missouri Valley is better. You still don't get the ratings anyway. The Massey Ratings are showing you that every computer ranking has the MVC over CUSA.

So either every observer and computer ranking is wrong - or you are. The guy who doesn't even know the names of the schools and probably couldn't name the schools in the Valley without looking them up.

Yes, every computer ranking is wrong. And the basis for this conclusion is your opinion that CUSA is better. Which you've arrived at by not knowing anything about the Valley.

Quite an academic you are. That's some solid science you are using.

MasseyvRatings have MWC above several conferences that are infinitely better. In other words, the Massey ratings are crap, as is your assessment of MVC.

If science is telling you that conferences like the MWC are better, then it's junk science at best, and the idea that the Massey ratings are somehow science is a hoot too. Now you know I'm an academic, because I'd never be so stupid as to fall for that.

 

[whaler11]

MasseyvRatings have MWC above several conferences that are infinitely better. In other words, the Massey ratings are crap, as is your assessment of MVC.

If science is telling you that conferences like the MWC are better, then it's junk science at best, and the idea that the Massey ratings are somehow science is a hoot too. Now you know I'm an academic, because I'd never be so stupid as to fall for that.

Your level of aggressive stupidity is impressive. Not that I'd expect anything less.

 

[upstater]

Your level of aggressive stupidity is impressive. Not that I'd expect anything less.

Thanks Anthony Michael Hall.

 

[ctchamps]

you guys seriously have to let it go

Are you kidding. They'll argue about anything and everything. The arguing is what feeds them. A cactus would die with too much water, a lily would die with too much sand. You and I would wither with this much debating. They thrive on it.

 

[intlzncster]

It's pretty rare to find on a forum, especially a sports board, but I do believe we have encountered an actual "little contest". Pretty cool to see one in the wild.

 

[CAHUSKY]

The one thing ive learned from this thread is that both Whaler and Upstater would likely make horrible dinner guests. Definitely if you had them both over at the same time. Can you imagine having to deal with this sh it all night?

 

[upstater]

The one thing ive learned from this thread is that both Whaler and Upstater would likely make horrible dinner guests. Definitely if you had them both over at the same time. Can you imagine having to deal with this sh it all night?

you!