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The minority at UConn stats presented in this thread are way overblown. Look at the actual numbers. They count internationals and Asians (who are at 2 to 3x their representation in the population as minorities. The actual numbers at UConn for African-Americans are less than 5%, well below the representative population in Connecticut. After Affirmative Action admissions were struck down, schools nationwide saw a drop in AA enrollment. In the SUNY system in New York state, we have actually found that there are a good many students from cities who are not applying even though they have SATs higher than the average student.
 
upstater said:
The minority at UConn stats presented in this thread are way overblown. Look at the actual numbers. They count internationals and Asians (who are at 2 to 3x their representation in the population as minorities. The actual numbers at UConn for African-Americans are less than 5%, well below the representative population in Connecticut. After Affirmative Action admissions were struck down, schools nationwide saw a drop in AA enrollment. In the SUNY system in New York state, we have actually found that there are a good many students from cities who are not applying even though they have SATs higher than the average student.
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If those kids have the scores for the SUNY schools why aren't they applying?
 
They don't realize that Buffalo is in New York.
 
KemBuckets21 said:
No apology necessary. Its an extremely sensitive subject and one that merits thoughtful debate. I found your points to be well thought out and I agree with much of what you said. I actually might have opposed your point of view until the last few years when I started mentoring kids in NYC. Some of these kids lack a very basic support system. My mom helped me fill out my college apps, first kid I worked with had a mother who was a lush and couldn't care less about his future. He had no idea how to approach the college application process, which as you know, is daunting for someone to take on by him/herself.

He's at Fordham now and actually scored in about the 70th percentile on the SAT. I don't know what the new test is like since they added the writing section, but he did pretty well and he fit in the average for Fordham students.

Very happy for him.
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You are part of the solution! We need more people like you and less people who just talk and complain.
 
KemBuckets21 said:
No apology necessary. Its an extremely sensitive subject and one that merits thoughtful debate. I found your points to be well thought out and I agree with much of what you said. I actually might have opposed your point of view until the last few years when I started mentoring kids in NYC. Some of these kids lack a very basic support system. My mom helped me fill out my college apps, first kid I worked with had a mother who was a lush and couldn't care less about his future. He had no idea how to approach the college application process, which as you know, is daunting for someone to take on by him/herself.

He's at Fordham now and actually scored in about the 70th percentile on the SAT. I don't know what the new test is like since they added the writing section, but he did pretty well and he fit in the average for Fordham students.

Very happy for him.
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I have mentored kids in Hartford at different points throughout my career. As stated previously, I agree we need to do what's necessary to give them the opportunity to succeed - assuming they respond to the challenge with a little coaching. Some will, some won't.

When you are involved in such programs it is apparent all the distractions that are there to sidetrack kids. I saw gang attachment down to the 5th grade level - when kids would fight in the bathroom, who had bothers or cousins in competing gangs.

I had a Weaver student - who later went to Central come to me - because they needed a used car to go to college and their intern job - and they knew no one with good credit to co-sign. I did - because you either help people or you don't. It's not always smart but there's no middle ground. You built a trust.

Several years ago - I took some time off - so that I could do something with my own kids during the formative years - and when I told the boy I was mentoring at Sanchez school, who was the biggest discipline problem in the program, that I needed to take a year off - to my great surprise he cried - I had no idea what an emotional impact this type of program could develop and he would have been the last guy that I would have thought would miss me - since I did not cut him much slack - in a joking way most times. But, I would call him on stuff that others might not. He was naturally very bright but he could turn out to be a drug dealer or Doctor. The path that he will go down will make all the difference.

If you ever want to make a real impact on someone's life - I highly recommend it. Be prepared for some peaks and valleys along the way - but at the end of the day - it's all good.
 
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Paesano said:
They don't need to. The best suny is on long island.
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I suppose it depends on what you want to do - it's pretty hard for any school to beat SUNY Albany's Micro & Nanoscale Science school
 
Word is that Nova is making a strong push to add Waters. Just adding info
 
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Matrim55 said:
Looks like Young is going to Oklahoma, and Green is expected to choose either Duke or 'Cuse.
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Then it would make sense that they're going to put the press on waters to commit quickly
 
Paesano said:
They don't need to. The best suny is on long island.
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That just is quite a broad insubstantial statement.

UNLIKE Connecticut (and maybe most like the UC system in California), SUNY has a very very diverse set of campuses with lots of strong advancements throughout the system. I am not sure what long island SUNY you are referring to; but, UBuffalo and Binghamton are well-known for high ranking in specific disciplines. As noted above, IF you are into the CSNE distinct college in Albany (*now separate from UAlbany), you are in the unique leader in the world in Nanoscience. etc etc.

Who has the best Pharmacy? Who has the best Engineering? Who is the best if you want to get to Med School? etc

This is 4 Flagship Universities and 17 (I think) SUNY College campuses. Including Geneseo or Fredonia or New Paltz ... which all get high marks.

In NYS, if you truly aren't from an advantaged background, it is FAR simpler to go to a Community College & then transfer into the BIG U. Particularly in some specific disciplines. It is a well-thought out system and works. (and like upstate ... I have an affiliation)
 
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I've felt like it'll be Indiana for a while (like at least 2 days) but I'm switching it and going Georgetown
 
superjohn said:
Why would he pick Georgetown over Indiana?
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TitleTown said:
That is what the liberal left does today! They cry out for "open and and honest" discussions about race, and as soon as you have a differing opinion you are called a "racist".
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Take it to the cesspool...
 
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