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PF/C Juwan Durham (Signed LOI on 11/11)

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HooperScooper said:
I'm not sure integrity has much to do with it. It's worth taking the risk as long as there's at least a decent chance he's going to recover and play again, which I feel certain he will. That's the way Ollie is probably looking at it.

Let me ask it this way. If he got so injured that doctors said he'll never play basketball again, do you think Ollie tells him he can come to UConn on a scholarship for 4 years?
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If he gets his legs amputated, Ollie will pull his scholarship, and he'll still end up at the school in some capacity...
 
Stairmaster said:
Ignoring the fact that proposing that due to an ACL tear is preposterous, you pull some strings and give him a scholarship to be a student assistant or something. Happens all the time in CFB.
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I didn't say anything about an ACL tear. I said injured so bad he couldn't play basketball again. You're missing the point of my post.
 
HooperScooper said:
I'm not sure integrity has much to do with it. It's worth taking the risk as long as there's at least a decent chance he's going to recover and play again, which I feel certain he will. That's the way Ollie is probably looking at it.

Let me ask it this way. If he got so injured that doctors said he'll never play basketball again, do you think Ollie tells him he can come to UConn on a scholarship for 4 years?
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Why are you posting this nonsense? The kid has some knee trouble that he will get over and he'll be a Husky next year, end of story.
 
He keeps his scholarship, we do everything we can to support him physically and emotionally.
We let the basketball figure itself out.
 
Cut and Dry:

Juwan: You HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP TO UCONN. We are thrilled to have you in our program. We know you will excel here in 2016.

Best Wishes on a Great and Swift Recovery.

Period. No more crazy speculating. Just doesn't look too good to do so.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
Of course he's coming here, but there's a legitimate concern after 2 ACL tears that he won't be the same guy that earned a Top 30 ranking.

A top, NCAA-ready big has to remain a priority for 2017 if not 2016.
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To my knowledge we are heavily involved and in good shape with at least 3 top 20 big men in 20017. Zach Brown could easily pop for UConn any time now, and Enoch, Facey, Larrier and Diarra can hold it down for a year if they have to. KO is still putting together a monster roster upgrade for the future. I don't care if Durham has to rehab 2 years I want him at UConn. A high character winner like JD WILL comeback from this.
 
Didn't this happen to Shea Ralph or someone like that and they made it through well at the end?
 
JonnyRI said:
Didn't this happen to Shea Ralph or someone like that and they made it through well at the end?
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Yeah but Ralph tore her ACL 3 times - the last time when she was a senior at UCONN and it was just before the NCAA tourney. Devastating way to end your basketball career. But each time she rehabbed it and came back.
 
JonnyRI said:
Didn't this happen to Shea Ralph or someone like that and they made it through well at the end?
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Yeah bit it's Shea Ralph and womens basketball, much different. This guy will make it back with hard work and strengthening. I'm confident he'll be a tremendous Husky.
 
I think he will come back healthy. It stinks that he will be rusty after two years of non competition but even if the worst case scenario happens he deserves a scholarship. Never take away a scholarship from a player with ten toes in!

I'm not sure I'd be as strongly enthusiastic about B.J. King! Yeah it's a joke!
 
Seems like it's the same knee as before...

Durham, ranked 37th in the ESPN 100 for the class of 2016, still was rehabbing from his initial tear sustained Feb. 17 when his knee buckled while on a treadmill and during shooting drills. The family asked for several opinions from doctors before an MRI revealed there was a tear, Terrapins coach Joe Fenlon said.

"Juwan still had complete movement and there was no swelling," Fenlon said. "It was a freak thing; one of the strangest tears of an ACL I've seen."

Fenlon said he contacted Connecticut immediately after the MRI on Durham's knee.

"UConn was fine and said these kind of things happen," Fenlon said.
 
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I'm confused. Everyone is calling it a tear, yet Juwan describes it as a "tweak." You don't "tweak" something into a full on tear; more like a sprain or strain. The pain caused by a tear is a whole other world from a "tweak."

I get it's semantics, but...
 
Rocktheworld said:
I'm confused. Everyone is calling it a tear, yet Juwan describes it as a "tweak." You don't "tweak" something into a full on tear; more like a sprain or strain. The pain caused by a tear is a whole other world from a "tweak."
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That's not true - every tear is different. A doctor friend of mine tore her ACL while skiing on her first run of the day up at Jay Peak, and kept going. She knew she'd done something, but it didn't bother her at all, and when she finally had it looked at she said "oh that makes sense" and only did rehab. No surgery or anything.

Another friend just did his two weeks ago playing rec soccer. Another instance of just landing wrong and feeling a slight tweak, and then some discomfort. After two weeks he finally went to the doctor and got an MRI, and now he's deciding whether or not he wants surgery.

Not all bodies are the same, and not all tears are the same. Roberto Baggio came back from an ACL in 4 months; other guys have taken 1.5 years.
 
Rocktheworld said:
I'm confused. Everyone is calling it a tear, yet Juwan describes it as a "tweak." You don't "tweak" something into a full on tear; more like a sprain or strain. The pain caused by a tear is a whole other world from a "tweak."

I get it's semantics, but...
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Technically speaking, a strain is a tear, but that term is only used when it's relatively minor.
 
ericsandiego said:
Yeah but Ralph tore her ACL 3 times - the last time when she was a senior at UCONN and it was just before the NCAA tourney. Devastating way to end your basketball career. But each time she rehabbed it and came back.
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Yeah I know it's much different with woman's bball but I am trying to console myself that he will still be able to contribute near to his potential for us next year....
 
JonnyRI said:
Yeah I know it's much different with woman's bball but I am trying to console myself that he will still be able to contribute near to his potential for us next year....
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Not as concerned for next year as I am for the young man to eventually be where he expects himself to be. If it's 2 years down the road then fine just hope he gets his chance to do what he likes to do in a healthy manner, and as a Husky like he wants!
 
mauconnfan said:
Not as concerned for next year as I am for the young man to eventually be where he expects himself to be. If it's 2 years down the road then fine just hope he gets his chance to do what he likes to do in a healthy manner, and as a Husky like he wants!
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He'll be fine. I will just take him longer to get back in the rhythm, flow of the game.
 
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Matrim55 said:
That's not true - every tear is different. A doctor friend of mine tore her ACL while skiing on her first run of the day up at Jay Peak, and kept going. She knew she'd done something, but it didn't bother her at all, and when she finally had it looked at she said "oh that makes sense" and only did rehab. No surgery or anything.

Another friend just did his two weeks ago playing rec soccer. Another instance of just landing wrong and feeling a slight tweak, and then some discomfort. After two weeks he finally went to the doctor and got an MRI, and now he's deciding whether or not he wants surgery.

Not all bodies are the same, and not all tears are the same. Roberto Baggio came back from an ACL in 4 months; other guys have taken 1.5 years.
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One major difference is that the kid is 6'10 or so...and his main activity requires significant jumping and stopping and starting. Plus he's already done a knee. Recovery would likely take a while we're it an acl.
 
mauconnfan said:
Not as concerned for next year as I am for the young man to eventually be where he expects himself to be. If it's 2 years down the road then fine just hope he gets his chance to do what he likes to do in a healthy manner, and as a Husky like he wants!
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I'll always be a fan of Rudy Johnson. What is it with Florida kids?

Of course he and Sue Mayo demonstrate why inter gender scrimmages can be problems. I'm wondering if this incident precipitated or increased some bitterness between JC and Geno.
 
fleudslipcon said:
I'll always be a fan of Rudy Johnson. What is it with Florida kids?

Of course he and Sue Mayo demonstrate why inter gender scrimmages can be problems. I'm wondering if this incident precipitated or increased some bitterness between JC and Geno.
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Wow digging up old dirt huh? Nice
 
Matrim55 said:
That's not true - every tear is different. A doctor friend of mine tore her ACL while skiing on her first run of the day up at Jay Peak, and kept going. She knew she'd done something, but it didn't bother her at all, and when she finally had it looked at she said "oh that makes sense" and only did rehab. No surgery or anything.

Another friend just did his two weeks ago playing rec soccer. Another instance of just landing wrong and feeling a slight tweak, and then some discomfort. After two weeks he finally went to the doctor and got an MRI, and now he's deciding whether or not he wants surgery.

Not all bodies are the same, and not all tears are the same. Roberto Baggio came back from an ACL in 4 months; other guys have taken 1.5 years.
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So the medical world no longer distinguishes severity?

CallMeBruce said:
Technically speaking, a strain is a tear, but that term is only used when it's relatively minor.
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Yeah this is kinda what I was saying.

But this is just me being a jerk about semantics. Carry on. Hope the kid makes a speedy recovery and we hear a timeframe soon.
 
This is tough news and I feel for Jawan as I had ACL surgery a couple months ago myself. I actually tore mine 2 years ago and walked on it without knowing it was torn for nearly a year and a half until I was fed up with the swelling and got an MRI. I'm happy to say though that my doctor was incredible and the surgery was great, I was walking again in 3 weeks. I hope Jawan finds a new doctor and he gets healthy ASAP to throw on the Husky Blue and White.
 
Well, if I'm an NBA GM I wouldn't want him. Fortunately he's young enough, maybe he can bounce back and get a couple strong years in his youth (hopefully with UConn).But multiple ACL tears is a bad sign for a basketball player long-term. Especially a guy approaching 7 feet. Oden, Bynum, K-Perk, Yao... The list goes on for big men who could never overcome injuries to sustain a long career. Here's to a full recovery.
 
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RayIsTheGOAT said:
Well, if I'm an NBA GM I wouldn't want him. Fortunately he's young enough, maybe he can bounce back and get a couple strong years in his youth (hopefully with UConn).But multiple ACL tears is a bad sign for a basketball player long-term. Especially a guy approaching 7 feet. Oden, Bynum, K-Perk, Yao... The list goes on for big men who could never overcome injuries to sustain a long career. Here's to a full recovery.
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We're a college team, not an NBA team.
 
BUHusky10 said:
This is tough news and I feel for Jawan as I had ACL surgery a couple months ago myself. I actually tore mine 2 years ago and walked on it without knowing it was torn for nearly a year and a half until I was fed up with the swelling and got an MRI. I'm happy to say though that my doctor was incredible and the surgery was great, I was walking again in 3 weeks. I hope Jawan finds a new doctor and he gets healthy ASAP to throw on the Husky Blue and White.[/

But you fought through it and continued posting on the yard! :)
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Summertime is projected to be when he can resume hoop activities. Hopefully he'll be ready for 2016-17
 
RayIsTheGOAT said:
Well, if I'm an NBA GM I wouldn't want him. Fortunately he's young enough, maybe he can bounce back and get a couple strong years in his youth (hopefully with UConn).But multiple ACL tears is a bad sign for a basketball player long-term. Especially a guy approaching 7 feet. Oden, Bynum, K-Perk, Yao... The list goes on for big men who could never overcome injuries to sustain a long career. Here's to a full recovery.
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Oden and Yao had foot problems. Bynum had a dislocated kneecap. I don't know why Perk was mentioned. These are not remotely similar situations to a torn ACL.
 
intlzncster said:
One major difference is that the kid is 6'10 or so...and his main activity requires significant jumping and stopping and starting. Plus he's already done a knee. Recovery would likely take a while we're it an acl.
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For sure. I was just pointing out that, in the moment, it's possible to tear your ACL (complete tear, even) and not realize you've done it. Not every single one ends with the person crumpled on the ground in a sobbing heap.
 
A few years ago, I was about to go bowling with some friends, and I slipped on ice while getting into the car.

It was pretty damn painful, and I realized quickly that I couldn't stand back up if I bent my knees all the way. I persevered on through several games of bowling (with the help of several drinks), and never saw a doctor.

It could have been my ACL, but I guess I'll never know. It's fine now.

That was drunken bowling knee pain story time with Leebo.
 
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