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Perils of the Portal - Kentucky player asked to transfer

If that's your logic then coaches would never get fired for poor performance since they have a contract in place. Come on now, Rowe committed 8 years ago to Matthew Mitchell. She's graduating early and getting married soon. She's going to be just fine.
Ah, she’s getting married so it’s ok to treat her like crap. Misogyny at its finest.

Also, she was offered by Mitchell in 2020, but her commitment was to Elzy.

“In 2020, she received an offer from the University of Kentucky by Coach Matthew Mitchell, while she was patiently waiting for surgery to repair a torn ACL. Shortly after the offer, Mitchell stepped away from the program, leaving assistant Kyra Elzy in his place.

“Once she hung up the phone,” Lonnie said of Elzy offering Cassidy a scholarship to UK, “there were a lot of tears throughout our family. That was a special moment, because our family, especially my father, was such a huge UK fan. We immediately called him, and he cried also.”

 
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Let’s be clear players are asked to leave all time. Look at what happened to LSU when Kim came in. Almost their entire roster turned over. And while yes, they could’ve decided on their own to leave. It seems pretty obvious that most of them were told there wasn’t a place for them anymore.

Geno sits down with the players after the season and talks about what their goals and aspirations are . you could be sure if the players goals don’t match what he sees, He tells them that this probably is not the place for them going forward.

I’m not as judgmental as others on this thread as we don’t know the full story there could be good reasons that he doesn’t want her around anymore.
I agree that it is best to withhold judgment until all the facts are known. However as a general matter players are processed out of programs after every season for a variety of reasons. No program can promise all four years.
 
Sorry, but this is lousy. What about an institution's commitment to a player? This young woman wanted to graduate from Kentucky apparently. This is ridiculous.
You know all the details?
 
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More than 1000 players per year have hit the portal for at least the previous 2 seasons and this year will no doubt get there as well. Don't even try to talk about loyalty. Players collectively don't have it.
 
Respectfully disagree. Students sign their offer letters with the university, not with the coach, and the offer is for four years of tuition and expenses in exchange for being willing to suit up. Rowe kept her end of the deal and Kentucky should do the same. And come on - does Brooks really think he needs to recruit 15 starter-worthy positions such that he can't honor his university's commitment to Rowe one more year?

I think I've just found a new favorite team to root against next season.
No. National Letters of Intent guarantee one year of academic aid only.


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Totally agree. The program made a promise to this kid, and it looks like Kenny broke this promise. Maybe he should have counted how many players he had before making so many offers. Rowe was a starter half of last season, but Brooks obviously doesn’t like something about her, as she hardly played this year.
The SEC actually guarantees scholarships for 4 years unless they are a detriment to the program. This has been in effect for about 5 years. Maybe she is on her 5th year?
 
Georgia, as long as Coach “Rough ‘em Up” Abe is there
Right. Thanks for the apt correction. There's a place for her.

WWE.

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Totally agree. The program made a promise to this kid, and it looks like Kenny broke this promise. Maybe he should have counted how many players he had before making so many offers. Rowe was a starter half of last season, but Brooks obviously doesn’t like something about her, as she hardly played this year.
She probably had option to leave basketball team and stay at Kentucky on scholarship for her last year. Transfer, is of course so she can still play hoops.

This happened to 15-20 players last year at Colorado football when Coach Prime arrived.

It's also happening a lot now in Olympic sports as the House settlement imposes new smaller roster limits on these sports. These sports used to have only a small number of scholarships, but unlimited roster size for walk ons.
 
She probably had option to leave basketball team and stay at Kentucky on scholarship for her last year. Transfer, is of course so she can still play hoops.

This happened to 15-20 players last year at Colorado football when Coach Prime arrived.

It's also happening a lot now in Olympic sports as the House settlement imposes new smaller roster limits on these sports. These sports used to have only a small number of scholarships, but unlimited roster size for walk ons.
And signed a lucrative 5-year extension this weekend. It obviously hasn't affected how he's perceived publicly.
 
Crazy how much this has blown up. This is happening all over college athletics this day and age when coaches come and go. It just got an angrier reaction cause she's a homegrown Kentucky kid who fans liked seeing on the roster. He could've done this last year as well, but decided to give her a chance. I think folks just honestly dislike Kenny that much and are looking for any reason to hate on the guy. Also, last I heard his daughter wasn't on scholly last season but I'm not completely sure on that.
 
Apparently Ms Rowe graduates this Spring with bs in Kinesiology and has been provisionally accepted in Kentucky's Physical Therapy Doctoral Program.

So she has this option, if she chooses ultimately not to transfer.

So in exchange for basketball at UK, she got a free undergraduate degree, and would be a grad transfer. Not so turrible.
 
Apparently Ms Rowe graduates this Spring with bs in Kinesiology and has been provisionally accepted in Kentucky's Physical Therapy Doctoral Program.

So she has this option, if she chooses ultimately not to transfer.

So in exchange for basketball at UK, she got a free undergraduate degree, and would be a grad transfer. Not so turrible.
The grad transfer isn’t an easy option. DPT is different than say a masters in business. Most programs are highly competitive and a lot of them have highly specific undergrad requirements. The one our son completed was a six and a half year program that started his freshman year. He got provisional acceptance into the grad program as a junior. Assuming she also wants to play basketball, finding a grad program that works with her already completed undergrad and needs her in basketball is a needle in a haystack. I’m not saying it couldn’t be done, but I can see where it wouldn’t be easy. I can see why transferring isn’t really an option.
 
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By the standards of almost the entire previous history of college athletics, a move like this can't seen as anything other than cutthroat and unethical.

But here's the thing. This new era changes all the rules, doesn't it? Every college player is essentially a free agent, free to leave whenever they want so long as someone else will take them. Even professional league contracts don't afford that level of freedom to their free agents. As a result, players are no longer expected to have loyalty to their programs. They must see to themselves to make the money they can.

The flip side of players having that sort of freedom is that coaching staffs are also less obligated to show loyalty to players they no longer feel they need. They still have a balancing act to perform (a coach might not want to get a reputation for being ruthless to their own players), but when you boil away all of the pretty words, it's a much more cutthroat era, both ways.
 
The grad transfer isn’t an easy option. DPT is different than say a masters in business. Most programs are highly competitive and a lot of them have highly specific undergrad requirements. see why transferring isn’t really an option.
If she chooses to transfer and play, what many grad transfers ( like K Chen) do is just take an interesting 1 yr masters that strengthens their resume. Then move on to serious grad school after playing days are over.

Exactly for reason you site, DPT a 3yr program not really geared to travel of a varsity sport, plus very hard to break a DPT into two schools. Also too late in the game now to apply for a DPT next year at a new school.
 
1. We don't know exactly what Brooks told her or what her options were.
2. We do not know what her level of participation or attitude was in practice and don't know her relationship with the coaches.
3. A coach is reasonably entitled to choose his own players and is well within the bounds of ethics and honesty to tell a player whether he thinks she will play or benefit the team by not playing and even to encourage transfer.
 
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Apart from Shea, whICH is reason enough, are there a lot of other likeable contenders to pick from? Abstractly, I'd pick Dawn, but she has been too much a thorn in the Huskies side in recent years, and otherwise there's no other head coach in the conference that I find particularly likeable or endearing. Worthy of respect, yes. But not fun to root for.
 
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Apart from Shea, whICH is reason enough, are there a lot of other likeable contenders to pick from? Abstractly, I'd pick Dawn, but she has been too much a thorn in the Huskies side in recent years, and otherwise there's no other head coach in the conference that I find particularly likeable or endearing. Worthy of respect, yes. But not fun to root for.
I like Vic
Don’t mind LSU
 
1. We don't know exactly what Brooks told her or what her options were.
2. We do not know what her level of participation or attitude was in practice and don't know her relationship with the coaches.
3. A coach is reasonably entitled to choose his own players and is well within the bounds of ethics and honesty to tell a player whether he thinks she will play or benefit the team by not playing and even to encourage transfer.
Sorry, but we're past the "give him the benefit of the doubt" stage when it comes to Kenny Brooks. If this was a one off situation, fine. But it's part of a greater pattern of behavior that has followed him from two other stops.

This is who he is. When people show you who they are, believe them the first time (Maya Angelou).
 
There has got to be some balance brought back to this. I'd call it semi pro basketball but college stars, who are high potential WNBA draft picks, are making more money in college than their first year as professionals. And other less coveted players are making more playing college basketball than they would make their first job out of college. This is a structural mercenary system.
 
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1. We don't know exactly what Brooks told her or what her options were.
2. We do not know what her level of participation or attitude was in practice and don't know her relationship with the coaches.
3. A coach is reasonably entitled to choose his own players and is well within the bounds of ethics and honesty to tell a player whether he thinks she will play or benefit the team by not playing and even to encourage transfer.
I’ll start by saying I’m biased. I’ve followed Cass’ basketball career since middle school. As such, I’ve become friendly with her family.

Cass is the daughter of a Coach. She has a high bball IQ. She’s a gym rat. First one in the gym, last to leave. She was a team captain this past year. While never playing the minutes she might have wanted, she has completely accepted her role. Ocassional minutes. Great defender. When she got in you would often see her taking a charge. She would be brought in some time specifically for her defense or to shoot FT’s.

She is the definition of a player embracing culture, being an excellent teammate. She graduated with her degree this past December ( 2.5 years), and will be starting PT school in the fall. The PT school admission process has been rigorous, and started last fall. To be able to transfer and get admitted to another PT was not going to happen for the Fall. Additionally, the only other PT program in KY is in Louisville at Bellarmine.

Cass was/is a fan favorite. She grew up in the eastern KY Mountains and has a huge following. Much like any rivalries, the State of KY is divided into Louisville vs KY fans. Eastern KY folks are heavy, heavy KY fans. This is a huge slap in the KY fanbase’s face.

Final two points about Cass is she is getting married this summer. She literally met with the staff to know their workout schedule this summer and planned her wedding around it. By all accounts, she is committed, and thought KY was too. Finally, the PT school worked with her to balance her schedule to account for playing. Everything was in place.

Everyone realizes that Brooks can do what he wants with his roster. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. It’s beyond classless and a slap in the face of a player that has been unyieldingly loyal, at a time when loyalty is severely lacking. With 7 open roster spots, and Brooks history of playing 6-7 players, I can not see a world where he would get 8 additional high quality players. Even if he did, all the intangibles she brings to the program can’t be quantified. She’s a stud, in terms of a role player.

Brooks brought to KY a bunch of red flags, in my opinion. This is one more example of his questionable ethics. Keeping his daughter on scholarship, without the history Cass has, is the final slap in the face to Cass, the family and to KY fans who adored her.

But, I’m biased.
 
I’ll start by saying I’m biased. I’ve followed Cass’ basketball career since middle school. As such, I’ve become friendly with her family.

Cass is the daughter of a Coach. She has a high bball IQ. She’s a gym rat. First one in the gym, last to leave. She was a team captain this past year. While never playing the minutes she might have wanted, she has completely accepted her role. Ocassional minutes. Great defender. When she got in you would often see her taking a charge. She would be brought in some time specifically for her defense or to shoot FT’s.

She is the definition of a player embracing culture, being an excellent teammate. She graduated with her degree this past December ( 2.5 years), and will be starting PT school in the fall. The PT school admission process has been rigorous, and started last fall. To be able to transfer and get admitted to another PT was not going to happen for the Fall. Additionally, the only other PT program in KY is in Louisville at Bellarmine.

Cass was/is a fan favorite. She grew up in the eastern KY Mountains and has a huge following. Much like any rivalries, the State of KY is divided into Louisville vs KY fans. Eastern KY folks are heavy, heavy KY fans. This is a huge slap in the KY fanbase’s face.

Final two points about Cass is she is getting married this summer. She literally met with the staff to know their workout schedule this summer and planned her wedding around it. By all accounts, she is committed, and thought KY was too. Finally, the PT school worked with her to balance her schedule to account for playing. Everything was in place.

Everyone realizes that Brooks can do what he wants with his roster. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should. It’s beyond classless and a slap in the face of a player that has been unyieldingly loyal, at a time when loyalty is severely lacking. With 7 open roster spots, and Brooks history of playing 6-7 players, I can not see a world where he would get 8 additional high quality players. Even if he did, all the intangibles she brings to the program can’t be quantified. She’s a stud, in terms of a role player.

Brooks brought to KY a bunch of red flags, in my opinion. This is one more example of his questionable ethics. Keeping his daughter on scholarship, without the history Cass has, is the final slap in the face to Cass, the family and to KY fans who adored her.

But, I’m biased.
Seems like the kind of "bias" that is earned through commitment, loyalty, and personal investment, so hardly need to apologize . And thanks for sharing this - my gut told me something was really off even at the surface level, and everything you say confirms that gut. If there's karma and justice, Cass will land in her feet and Brooks will have seen his ceiling with his program this season. These are the kinds of stories that are very rapidly turning me off of WCBB and towards the W, where there are rules, player protection, and a brighter spotlight on questionable staffing decisions.
 
Thanks cardsfan for all that info. I will watch Kentucky roster with interest and I hope Cass lands in a good situation in her next move.
 
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