PBA games v GP games this season

[Waquoit]

It’s always been true and always will be true. Cry more.

I showed my work. You just shake your head no. Cuz reasons? Putz

 

[GampelGladiator]

Hurley has said he wants St. Johns in Hartford this year.

"I don’t know where we’re dragging them next year," Hurley said, seemingly sarcastically. "We lost at Gampel, so that probably means I’ll drag them back to the XL Center, where we beat them the year before. That’s how we do our schedule."

 

[zls44]

I showed my work. You just shake your head no. Cuz reasons? Putz

Imagine disagreeing with the coaches and players. Thinking you know more than they do. Sad! Very sad!

 

[Waquoit]

Imagine disagreeing with the coaches and players. Thinking you know more than they do. Sad! Very sad!

I have been following this program 10x longer than most of 'em. And they're just giving you their personal take. My take is based on all of the facts at hand. I get that they feel more comfortable playing in Gampel. But so do the visitors. Especially when they make a few 3's in a row. Crickets.

 

[navery12]

Enjoy the Hartford games while you have them, because when I'm named UConn AD you'll get 0. Not even an exhibition game against a local HS team

 

[HooperScooper]

Enjoy the Hartford games while you have them, because when I'm named UConn AD you'll get 0. Not even an exhibition game against a local HS team

I'd bet on you getting the AD job one day. There's no way they could pass on someone who knows everything and is always right.

 

[navery12]

I'd bet on you getting the AD job one day. There's no way they could pass on someone who knows everything and is always right.

I'll have a lot of competition from this board then if those are the requirements

 

[John]

Enjoy the Hartford games while you have them, because when I'm named UConn AD you'll get 0. Not even an exhibition game against a local HS team

Can’t wait to see how you window dress the revenue loss.

 

[navery12]

Can’t wait to see how you window dress the revenue loss.

Easy, by putting a superior product on the court and playing college sports where they belong, on campus

 

[John]

Easy, by putting a superior product on the court and playing college sports where they belong, on campus

superior product = expensive

 

[Waquoit]

Easy, by putting a superior product on the court and playing college sports where they belong, on campus

I'm thinking Miami, and USC aren't giving back their football titles.

 

[zls44]

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I'm thinking Miami, and USC aren't giving back their football titles.

Ok now ask about the other 95% of the titles you didn’t mention

 

[John]

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Ok now ask about the other 95% of the titles you didn’t mention

Villanova will be giving theirs back

 

[Waquoit]

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Ok now ask about the other 95% of the titles you didn’t mention

Was I talking to you? I know we’re not giving our six back. Playing in an arena, prepares us for the big dance. That’s why we win so much and you want to take it away from us.

 

[Scoe]

lol at the anti Hartford hysteria, a lot of it is a pile on narrative.

 

[Stew Crew]

I have been following this program 10x longer than most of 'em. And they're just giving you their personal take. My take is based on all of the facts at hand. I get that they feel more comfortable playing in Gampel. But so do the visitors. Especially when they make a few 3's in a row. Crickets.

Respectfully, looking only at the past 3 years can be misleading. We have been so dominant for much of that time and should have been beating everyone everywhere. If you look at the whole Hurley era, ignoring the games with no fans, UConn has won 89% of their Gampel games and 78% of their XL games. One can argue about differences in SOS between the two sites but with over 100 data points, it is unlikely that SOS is the predominant factor. If it was, it would also be counter to your other argument that a disproportionate number of "good" games are at Gampel. Yes, that was the case last year, but in general the schedules have been balanced. Conflicts with the Wolfpack also factor in. Last year, I think Marquette and St. John's games were on same night as Wolfpack home games.

But what do I know? I've only been a season ticket holder for 35 years that sits in the lower bowl so I'm not a loyal fan.

 

[CL82]

I object to the PBA moniker.

The People'sBank is one word.

Should be PA.
PeBa Arena is an elaxceptable alternate.

PBA is a bowling league and using it probably puts this board at risk for trademark infringement much like the World Widelife Fund made Vince bend at the knee.

Also, Police Benevolent Association.

In any event, though People'sBank maybe one word, but it has two caps in it. "PBA" will be hard to shake as a nickname. I could see "the bank" catching on as an informal nickname.

 

[InTheRed]

Easy, by putting a superior product on the court and playing college sports where they belong, on campus

So the superior product will allow you to fit an extra 6k fans in Gampel?

 

[Lafayette]

Dang, late to this thread as saw PBA = Professional Bowler's Association and I don't bowl.

 

[Waquoit]

Respectfully, looking only at the past 3 years can be misleading.

Gampel was even worse during the AAC years. You lower bowl guys couldn’t even bother to show up during weekday games. But what do I know? I was just sitting in the upper corner looking at all those empty seats being vigorously guarded by the yellow shirts wondering what else better you had to do.

And if you wanted to be honest, you would do an apples to apples comparison between Gampel and the XL since Gampel opened. It’s virtually even.Gampel never hosted Perno teams or teams with soccer goalies, and lefty pitchers in the rotation.

 

[Windham4th]

In order to avoid putting 5 'best' big east teams in GP every year...would it be reasonable to split venues by original big east vs new big east?

Perhaps original in storrs...new in hartford? Or alternate each year?

Should we build a football/basketball dome like the CarrierDome on campus and kill 2 birds...

 

[navery12]

So the superior product will allow you to fit an extra 6k fans in Gampel?

Yes, as the UConn AD I'll invest in improvements to the arena in the location where college sports should be played, on campus. Including expanding the number of seats

 

[Stew Crew]

Gampel was even worse during the AAC years. You lower bowl guys couldn’t even bother to show up during weekday games. But what do I know? I was just sitting in the upper corner looking at all those empty seats being vigorously guarded by the yellow shirts wondering what else better you had to do.

And if you wanted to be honest, you would do an apples to apples comparison between Gampel and the XL since Gampel opened. It’s virtually even.Gampel never hosted Perno teams or teams with soccer goalies, and lefty pitchers in the rotation.

I appreciate your self-proclaimed loyalty to the program and can partially understand your frustration but you are incorrect on so many levels. Your persistent attempt to engage in class warfare within UConn Nation is getting quite tiring, as is your standard response "Dom Perno" to justify your positions.

As we learned this year, the Athletic Dept controls over 1000 seats in the lower bowl of GP. The majority of empty seats you supposedly "saw" were likely AD seats that went unused.

It's also insulting to imply that I was being dishonest by expanding the data set to a natural break point (Hurley' hiring). In any case, I was able to go back to 2011 (after that, the data is not so readily available). The numbers are still similar. 84% win % at GP. 75% win % in Hartford.

Long live Perno!

 

[Stew Crew]

Can’t wait to see how you window dress the revenue loss.

Top line may be lower but bottom line would improve if we played all games at Gampel. in 2023 - 2024, UConn paid $1.55 million to play 20 games (8 MBB, 8 WBB, 4 hockey) in Hartford which is likely way above market value. But the CRDA needs to justify its existence. When pre-rated, that comes out to about $90,000 per game for MBB. $10,000 in transportation costs for team, staff, band, students. Add in $25,000 in lost parking revenue and probably $50,000 - $75,000 in profits from concessions, and you can easily get to $175,000 - $200,000 per game.

Lost revenue from lower ticket sales would be around $70,000 (3500 less fans x $20 per seat). Add in $50,000 to operate GP (which is mid-range cost to operate that size of arena).

This does assume that corporate sponsorship money is not affected and AD would double seat donation price at GP. Most GP fans also have seats in Hartford, so paying double seat donation would be cost neutral to many fans.

 

[Stew Crew]

So the superior product will allow you to fit an extra 6k fans in Gampel?

The average Hartford attendance is around 3500 more than Gampel, with almost all of those 3500 paying $20/ticket or less. Between out-of-pocket costs (rent and transportation) and lost revenue opportunities (parking and concessions), it would be more cost effective to play at GP. It would also reduce available inventory, allowing for higher ticket prices. I doubt it would impact recruiting. I can't imagine any recruit choosing UConn so that they can get on a bus and take a 35 minute ride to play half their games at the mecca of college basketball now known as Peoples Bank Arena.