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superjohn said:
Chief went from being a lifelong Giants fan to a Patriots fan because of the Brown signing, Belichick showed him it's all about winning.
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Exactly right. I do like a focus on winning and I think the Giants the last 5 years have been focused on keeping Eli happy.
As for Brown, in my opinion, I do agree he’s a bad guy in some important ways. But that’s my opinion. I don’t think a guy should lose his livelihood because of my opinion formulated from reading media stories. I am always consistent on this regardless of race, politics, etc of the accused.
What I would prefer is to let these things follow due process. In this situation, he has not been charged with a crime yet.
I would support waiving him if he was found guilty of a crime. I might even support suspending him if under indictment.
You either follow the system of justice or you don’t.
 
intlzncster said:
Latest on the bonus is:

Antonio Brown likely forfeits $9M signing bonus from Patriots because of a contract clause calling for players to disclose situations preventing availability, per league source. This could lead to a grievance, but source says that money is 'gone.' Brown was due $5M Monday - Jeremy Fowler
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I believe you are correct for this year’s salary cap purposes. They will receive a credit next season if the final determination (NFL/NFLPA) is the Pats don’t owe his signing bonus from this year.

PatsCap: Breaking down the salary cap implications of Antonio Brown's release | Boston Sports Journal (paywall)

“Since the CBA says “in the event that a Club receives a refund from the player of any previously-paid Salary, or the Club fails to pay any previously allocated portion of a signing bonus (including any amount treated as signing bonus), such amount as has previously been included in Team Salary shall be credited to the Club’s Team Salary for the next League Year” Brown’s 2019 $4.75 million signing bonus proration will remain on the Patriots salary cap and any credit will hit the Patriots 2020 cap.”
“Therefore, Brown’s minimum 2019 dead money will be $5,073,333.”
 
UCDaveD said:
You must not have actually watched the video.
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I don't understand. I saw the video. Hunt did push her down and did kick her. The only thing that prevented this from becoming a total Ray Rice video (or worse) was that there were other people there to restrain Hunt. It's not like he was trying to restrain himself.
 
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Devland said:
I don't understand. I saw the video. Hunt did push her down and did kick her. The only thing that prevented this from becoming a total Ray Rice video (or worse) was that there were other people there to restrain Hunt. It's not like he was trying to restrain himself.
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Women can’t just toss around racial slurs and put their hands on men and not expect consequences. Equal rights means equal lefts.

Unfortunately, Kareem fell victim to the ‘me too’ era that we’re currently living through.
 
Hans Sprungfeld said:
I know he said he was at the urinal, but did he say anything about taking a piss?
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Man, this guy's cheese has fallen off his cracker. Any concussions in his past?

 
Chief00 said:
I agree with some of your observations but you have to be a tough enough man to let the b*tches hit you and never hit back. You can try to hold them off or keep at a distance. Sure, some will take advantage of that unlevel playing field but that’s how Chief was raised back in the hood days.
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Wow, I was quite drunk last night lmao!
I’m going to go ahead and walk back my stance here. Though I still do believe Hunt got more punishment than he deserved.
 
Dove said:
Man, this guy's cheese has fallen off his cracker. Any concussions in his past?

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Probably a bunch. Probably naturally narcissistic diva too.

But you've gotta admit, "different strokes for different folks" is a great line in context.
 
UCDaveD said:
Wow, I was quite drunk last night lmao!
I’m going to go ahead and walk back my stance here. Though I still do believe Hunt got more punishment than he deserved.
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I thought it was an odd hill to die on. That said, I think it's the other guys who aren't getting punished enough.
 
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First, I saw AB's Tweets and that's a guy who wants to take no responsibility for his own action, shows no remorse for what may have happened (there's proof that at least 2 of the incidents took place) and is blaming everyone else for his actions.

Second, I am tied of the Pats and their 'Patriot's Way.' The Pat's 'Way' is about 1 thing - wining and their willingness to turn a blind eye to everything else, like Antonio 'Pants Down' Brown, Hernandez, etc.

Third, the NFL also owns this, too. Players like Brown, Hunt, etc. who have been alleged to have assulted and beyond women, kids and others keep getting signed by teams every year while Kaepernick, who was a decnet QB at the time and better than some of the folks playing QB today, can't even get a call although he has hurt no one and has done nothing illegal (politics aside).
 
I almost wonder if it's compliant with the terms of owning an NFL team that they can choose to not answer questions about official decisions and transactions under their roof.

They signed AB. They cut him. There are questions surrounding the 11 days he was there. But Belichick can just say "I'm not answering" and walk away?
 
intlzncster said:
He slapped his women in public, at a team event, in 2019. You're automatically getting sidelined for that.



This is why Pats fans laugh. You guys just run with BS. It's been reported that neither the Pats, nor the NFL, were aware of any of the rape allegations before signing them.

They knew he was a D - bag for sure. But not an alleged rapist.
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They knew he was an alleged rapist and then played him. They are the only professional sports team who employed a serial killer, I give them props for cutting ties with the serial killer once they found out about his killings though.
 
Deepster said:
I almost wonder if it's compliant with the terms of owning an NFL team that they can choose to not answer questions about official decisions and transactions under their roof.

They signed AB. They cut him. There are questions surrounding the 11 days he was there. But Belichick can just say "I'm not answering" and walk away?
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???

They explicitly said they cut him because of his threatening emails to the woman last week.
 
upstater said:
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They explicitly said they cut him because of his threatening emails to the woman last week.
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It's a fair to ask questions like "How has releasing him impacted your practices?" Belichick just decides that if he doesn't feel like answering anything he doesn't have to. I feel like there's an obligation to answer things to a degree.
 
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Deepster said:
It's a fair to ask questions like "How has releasing him impacted your practices?" Belichick just decides that if he doesn't feel like answering anything he doesn't have to. I feel like there's an obligation to answer things to a degree.
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Not a chance he would answer that to your satisfaction. Brown was released on Friday after practice. Belichick can't tell the future.

The team put out official statements about his signing, issues while on the team, and his release. In addition, I don't think Belichick is require to answer any questions about non-Patriots.
 
superjohn said:
They knew he was an alleged rapist and then played him.
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You can't expect NFL teams to not play anybody who's accused of something. Otherwise, it would be one of the biggest tactics of opposing teams. Big playoff game? Accuse the opposing QB of rape. He sits. Game over.

Once more evidence comes out, then you can act. Those txts became available on Friday, so they cut him.

They are the only professional sports team who employed a serial killer, I give them props for cutting ties with the serial killer once they found out about his killings though.
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Yeah, that sure reflects on their character. It's not like the Patriots culture creates serial killers.
 
Deepster said:
I almost wonder if it's compliant with the terms of owning an NFL team that they can choose to not answer questions about official decisions and transactions under their roof.
They signed AB. They cut him. There are questions surrounding the 11 days he was there. But Belichick can just say "I'm not answering" and walk away?
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Deepster said:
It's a fair to ask questions like "How has releasing him impacted your practices?" Belichick just decides that if he doesn't feel like answering anything he doesn't have to. I feel like there's an obligation to answer things to a degree.
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Guy was on the team for 11 days. He was a bigger sh1tburger than they thought. So they cut him. Now he's not part of the plan.

It's not like coaches are obliged to answer questions about practice in detail. Most specifically don't. "good week of practice. we're ready to go. good game plan. see you on sunday".

All Belichick's responses are the same anyway. Just generic BS.
 
Deepster said:
It's a fair to ask questions like "How has releasing him impacted your practices?" Belichick just decides that if he doesn't feel like answering anything he doesn't have to. I feel like there's an obligation to answer things to a degree.
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I really don't care about all that press conference stuff. It's much more important for a coach to prepare them to play. And if that means he believes the AB thing is a distraction for his players, then a coach should do the #1 thing he's there to do: prepare to win. Having reporters constantly bringing up AB, especially when the question doesn't even make much sense since the guy was only on the team for less than a week, is a distraction.
 
Deepster said:
It's a fair to ask questions like "How has releasing him impacted your practices?" Belichick just decides that if he doesn't feel like answering anything he doesn't have to. I feel like there's an obligation to answer things to a degree.
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Since they haven't practiced, how can he possibly answer that question?
 
Dove said:
Man, this guy's cheese has fallen off his cracker. Any concussions in his past?

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I got essentially nothing but people discounting the hit he took from Vontaze Burfict when I mentioned it.

Very easy to find on YouTube
 
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Deepster said:
It's a fair to ask questions like "How has releasing him impacted your practices?" Belichick just decides that if he doesn't feel like answering anything he doesn't have to. I feel like there's an obligation to answer things to a degree.
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I assume this is your first week watching sports?
 
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