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You can DVR the Masters, but you aren't going to the dumb parade anyway so you won't miss it.

The school had championship trophies available at the spring game in 2011. If they don't again, someone should be fired.

I didn't realize there was a law against having a rally at the spring game AND a parade on Sunday. Forgive me.

Yes clearly there are big plans for Saturday. The media is saturated with all the big plans for Saturday.

I am sure the state forces them to have a parade. Probably no way around that. I fully understand that parades exist and will continue to exist and I'll hopefully never attend one. That there is a portion of the population who might attend a parade but thinks the Masters is about 75000x more compelling - well I guess one of us understands people have different tastes.

Honestly you are a huge football fan - why don't you want UConn to try and leverage the basketball success into getting people to attend the spring game?
 
Yes clearly there are big plans for Saturday. The media is saturated with all the big plans for Saturday.

I am sure the state forces them to have a parade. Probably no way around that. I fully understand that parades exist and will continue to exist and I'll hopefully never attend one. That there is a portion of the population who might attend a parade but thinks the Masters is about 75000x more compelling - well I guess one of us understands people have different tastes.

Honestly you are a huge football fan - why don't you want UConn to try and leverage the basketball success into getting people to attend the spring game?

I understand different tastes. I also understand you don't schedule a parade around people you think "might attend" because of a golf tournament on TV. Much more goes into planning a parade as large as this, on 4-5 days notice, than what's on TV that weekend. Surely, you understand that has nothing to do with tastes and everything to do with logistics?

I'll answer your football question when you quote the post where I said I didn't want "UConn to try and leverage the basketball success into getting people to attend the spring game."
 
I understand different tastes. I also understand you don't schedule a parade around people you think "might attend" because of a golf tournament on TV. Much more goes into planning a parade as large as this, on 4-5 days notice, than what's on TV that weekend. Surely, you understand that has nothing to do with tastes and everything to do with logistics?

I'll answer your football question when you can tell me when I said I didn't want "UConn to try and leverage the basketball success into getting people to attend the spring game."

Of course I understand the timing of the parade. I just think it's funny that it's against the Masters. I'm sure there might by like 50 people who skip because of that - it's funny to me that sports fans might choose a parade over that though.

As for the logistics - really it isn't that hard to pull off. They have done the same thing a bunch of times. Oh there is a show at the Bushnell? Wow, that is quite a monkey wrench.

THE IDEA THEY HAD FIVE DAYS TO PLAN IS INSANE. They have a parade for the women all the time are you going to argue they wait to see if they win before they do anything?

Well you seem to think this parade with no real tie in to Saturday is ok. You seem to be sold on the idea that there is something good for Saturday that they don't plan on telling anyone about? Because that is what gets people to show up? The parade on Sunday probably decreases attendance Saturday because there are probably people who will choose one over the other. CHB gave direct examples earlier in this thread.
 
Of course I understand the timing of the parade. I just think it's funny that it's against the Masters. I'm sure there might by like 50 people who skip because of that - it's funny to me that sports fans might choose a parade over that though.

As for the logistics - really it isn't that hard to pull off. They have done the same thing a bunch of times. Oh there is a show at the Bushnell? Wow, that is quite a monkey wrench.

THE IDEA THEY HAD FIVE DAYS TO PLAN IS INSANE. They have a parade for the women all the time are you going to argue they wait to see if they win before they do anything?

Well you seem to think this parade with no real tie in to Saturday is ok. You seem to be sold on the idea that there is something good for Saturday that they don't plan on telling anyone about? Because that is what gets people to show up? The parade on Sunday probably decreases attendance Saturday because there are probably people who will choose one over the other. CHB gave direct examples earlier in this thread.
I don't understand why you're choosing to debate the time and day of a parade you have no intention of attending.

It is difficult to pull off, but not impossible. That's why it's getting done. But the fact is UConn doesn't pick the date and time. They have input, the Governor's office has input, the city has input, and the Hartford Business Improvement District has input. It's a group effort with I'm sure a lot of politics involved, so if I had to guess, I think it's safe to assume the Governor made the decision, and UConn probably preferred sunday.

Wrong. CHB didn't say people will choose one over the other. CHB said this: "A lot of my casual fan friends who were 100% in for a dual event Saturday are now out for both."

That's just stupid on their part. Skipping both because they aren't held at the same time? If they were 100% in for the spring game, why not go to that as planned, it's been scheduled for months. "Fans" like that aren't likely coming to football games when they have to pay.

I have no problem with some sort of tie-in. I've never said otherwise. In 2011 they gave away free National Championship photos and allowed photos of/with the NC/BE trophies. I think they should do that.... AND MORE. All I've said is I don't get the whining about a 4pm parade. But the assumption that a tie-in is going to do wonders for the football program are overblown. It can't hurt, so they should do something, but if we want to improve football attendance we have to win games, not have more off-season rallies for the basketball team.

You make too many assumptions. Just because I'm okay with a parade on Sunday at 4pm, you've decided my opinion on a number of other things that I never commented. It would be incredibly stupid not to have some of the players and the trophies at the game Saturday. You want something bigger? I don't disagree. But I don't think the large amount of Women's CBB fans likely to show up for the parade are all of a sudden going to start coming to our football games this fall just because they've seen a glorified scrimmage at the Rent.
 
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I don't understand why you're choosing to debate the time and day of a parade you have no intention of attending.

It is difficult to pull off, but not impossible. That's why it's getting done. But the fact is UConn doesn't pick the date and time. They have input, the Governor's office has input, the city has input, and the Hartford Business Improvement District has input. It's a group effort with I'm sure a lot of politics involved, so if I had to guess, I think it's safe to assume the Governor made the decision, and UConn probably preferred sunday.

Wrong. CHB didn't say people will choose one over the other. CHB said this: "A lot of my casual fan friends who were 100% in for a dual event Saturday are now out for both."

That's just stupid on their part. Skipping both because they aren't held at the same time? If they were 100% in for the spring game, why not go to that as planned, it's been scheduled for months.

I have no problem with some sort of tie-in. I've never said otherwise. In 2011 they gave away free National Championship photos and allowed photos of/with the NC/BE trophies. I think they should do that.... AND MORE. All I've said is I don't get the whining about a 4pm parade. But the assumption that a tie-in is going to do wonders for the football program are overblown. It can't hurt, so they should do something, but if we want to improve football attendance we have to win games, not have more off-season rallies for the basketball team.

I'm not debating the time. I'm laughing at some of the talk about logistical difficulties like the Bushnell having a show. Can you imagine another city where somehow that is a big deal? I'm laughing at the notion the planning can't start until Monday at midnight.
Any legitimate organization works on contingency plans.

I don't think a tie in would do wonders for the football program. A tie in would attract some people to Rentschler who have never been.

I'm not trying to claim that having a structured basketball event at the Spring Game would increase attendance in September for BYU. All I'm claiming is that it would increase attendance at the Spring Game which would potentially build on the momentum of the double NC.

UConn being able to produce evidence of 10-15k at the game Saturday would be a positive image of the football program. It could introduce non-football fans to Bob Diaco. It could show some basketball only fans how much fun tailgating at Rentschler is.

It's an opportunity to bring awareness to the football program. How could that be a bad thing?

Trophys are all well and good. Having Napier, Stewart, Ollie and Geno in attendance in an official capacity is a lot more impactful.
 
It would be incredibly stupid not to have some of the players and the trophies at the game Saturday. We've been in agreement for some time.

I never said we should pass on an opportunity to bring awareness to the football program. There's no reason we can't do both the parade and have players/coaches and trophies there. We did it before with the trophies, we should be able to add the players.

"Claiming 10-15k" at the spring game as a positive image of the football program would be near criminal. It would be a running joke in football country that the only way to get 15,000 people to a UConn Spring Game is to bring the Women's basketball team.
 
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Missed opportunity for sure.

- Parade Saturday at 11AM-Noon in downtown Hartford, ending at the Rent for 1PM.
- Autographs for fans from 1-2PM.
- 2:30PM on-field celebration for both programs and then introductions to the football team. Kind of like passing an athletic program torch - "basketball season is over and you're up next football" type of thing. Geno can address the crowd. Kevin can address the crowd. Then Bob can address the crowd. Everyone wins and everyone remembers we're all in this together at UCONN.

Give fans an opportunity to buy football season tickets in the stadium on Saturday and if they do, they get a nice dual-championship t-shirt. UCONN fans love t-shirts. Autographs for the fans at 5PM after the game ends with football and anyone who wants to stay from basketball.
 
You can cite my example as being "stupid" and regardless if it is or not, that's what the casual fan is going.

Driving an hour to Hartford for a spring football game didn't sell them and driving an hour to Hartford for only a parade didn't sell them. If they could've done both of the same day they would've done it.

To be honest, I would've come up from NYC for a Saturday parade which casual fans enjoy and then dragged the crew to the spring game, but people I know are either doing neither or just the parade now.

Wasted opportunity to sell the football program.
 
It would be incredibly stupid not to have some of the players and the trophies at the game Saturday. We've been in agreement for some time.

I never said we should pass on an opportunity to bring awareness to the football program. There's no reason we can't do both the parade and have players/coaches and trophies there. We did it before with the trophies, we should be able to add the players.

"Claiming 10-15k" at the spring game as a positive image of the football program would be near criminal. It would be a running joke in football country that the only way to get 15,000 people to a UConn Spring Game is to bring the Women's basketball team.

Well if an organization actually took control of their narrative... sure it's not worth trying.

First and 10 from the one. Lets run some FB dives!
 
Francesa 'coached' a Rutgers spring game against Russo. Rutgers never had more publicity.

You can actually get people interested in your spring game if you get creative.

Geno on one sideline and Ollie on the other. Insanity!?!

Hell Calhoun can't get enough. Have him on one sideline and Ollie on the other.

Have Napier 'coach' one team and Stewart 'coach' the other.

Or just really do anything. The whole world seems to get that football drives the bus but let's not do anything to get people at the game.
 
Seriously, 15K at the Rent for whatever reason brought them there sounds like a 1000% improvement over the typical 3-4K that have gone the past few years. Could have a parade, autographs, on-field celebration, highlights on the video board, fireworks, pictures, etc and while there are 15-20K in the stadium, oh yeah, we play football too. Pick out your own seat and buy season tickets today (haaaave you met Bob?), we will give you this glistening dual championship t-shirt. If you don't want season tickets, it's cool. Enjoy the free game and festivities all afternoon long. We'd love to meet you after the game is over so come on the field and shake a hand or two. Make some friends and maybe sell some tickets now or later on an individual game basis.

Passing of the UCONN torch from basketball to football. It made too much sense so that's why we can't do it. That and probably some stupid traffic ordinance in East Hartford. Ridiculous. Missed opportunity for sure. Everything on one day allows everyone from the area to come to Hartford/East Hartford and celebrate together. HUGE turnout. But no, let's keep things divided and the fanbase separated by basketball vs football fans. SO. STUPID.
 
You can cite my example as being "stupid" and regardless if it is or not, that's what the casual fan is going.

Driving an hour to Hartford for a spring football game didn't sell them and driving an hour to Hartford for only a parade didn't sell them. If they could've done both of the same day they would've done it.

To be honest, I would've come up from NYC for a Saturday parade which casual fans enjoy and then dragged the crew to the spring game, but people I know are either doing neither or just the parade now.

Wasted opportunity to sell the football program.

That's what the people you know (who apparently are at least an hour away) are doing.

I don't think you speak for everyone.

I agree they are missing an opportunity and am surprised they haven't announced something (because they something last time), but having the parade, then expecting 10-15,000 to all pack up and leave downtown to get to the rent at the same time isn't realistic.

The civic center seats over 15,000. Traffic leaves north, west, south, and east. Imagine everyone getting out of a UConn game and heading east to the Rent.

If it's only 5,000 or so that do it, then what's the point? The Spring Game can get 5,000 with good weather and a 3pm start time anyway.
 
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Because this is the Boneyard where no matter how many times you post something, someone will ignore it. I agree there's an opportunity to do something at the spring game, and they should do something more than just having the trophies there. But...

Are there fans of UConn sports that don't realize we have a football team? (rhetorical)

It's been 10 years, we've won two conference championships, and gone to a BCS bowl. People know we have a team, and they know that we were good for a few years (the attendance shows that) and that we sucked the past few years (the attendance shows that). We are long past the point where using basketball to introduce people to UConn Football will have any meaningful impact (JMHO).

That doesn't mean we shouldn't do something, but the hand-wringing (expected and common) is really pointless.

And those Dual Champs t-shirts are flying off shelves at $20-$25 each. Giving them away would be crazy.
 
You would think they scheduled it for Midnight on a Tuesday.

Gosh 4 Pm Sunday, what an awful time.

The Masters.... Let's try and pick a time, when the people that run television decide to turn off all 900 stations, so that there is absolutely nothing on that someone might watch and not go to the parade. Let's make sure that all of the cinemas, parks, restaurants, bars, and shopping malls are closed, too.

And let's get rid of all of the couches, beds, and recliners because somebody might want to take a nap, and the parade is going to interfere with that, too.
 
Because this is the Boneyard where no matter how many times you post something, someone will ignore it. I agree there's an opportunity to do something at the spring game, and they should do something more than just having the trophies there. But...

Are there fans of UConn sports that don't realize we have a football team? (rhetorical)

It's been 10 years, we've won two conference championships, and gone to a BCS bowl. People know we have a team, and they know that we were good for a few years (the attendance shows that) and that we sucked the past few years (the attendance shows that). We are long past the point where using basketball to introduce people to UConn Football will have any meaningful impact (JMHO).

That doesn't mean we shouldn't do something, but the hand-wringing (expected and common) is really pointless.

And those Dual Champs t-shirts are flying off shelves at $20-$25 each. Giving them away would be crazy.

Dear UConn,

Just give up on football. There is no reason to try and increase the fanbase. If you don't have them yet after 10 years you'll never get them.

Don't give someone a t shirt for buying season tickets - clearly you are in the t shirt business and don't want to undercut those sales.

I think the best approach is to bring the football team out and bury the offense at 1 yard line. We want to see this year if you can actually make a first down in 20 minutes.

Your friend,
Wing
 
Wing you should call Coca Cola and tell them to stop advertising. I just saw a commercial and for the life of me I can't think of a single person I know who isn't familiar with the brand and has never tasted the product.

There must be some real morons running every single company I am reminded of every day that everyone knows exists.
 
I can't think of a better reason to introduce UConn football than after P sucked the life out of the program and now we have a well respected, energetic and up beat coach why would we possibly want to show him off.

People on here don't realize the casual fans perspective in the state about the program. I'm consider myself "die hard" but the spring game has never had any juice to it, so why would I make a 3 hr trip up here and better yet why would a casual fan even think about going?

UConn is doing a lot of things better but this was a missed opportunity - I don't seewhy anyone would want to debate that.
 
Let's have a contest to see what the most trivial matter we can get BYers to get self-righteous about. I love 50% of us calling the other 50% stupid. Maybe we can catch someone in a typo and then we all know they are an idiot.

Maybe if we won something it would pull us all together.
 
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Let's have a contest to see what the most trivial matter we can get BYers to get self-righteous about. I love 50% of us calling the other 50% stupid. Maybe we can catch someone in a typo and then we all know they are an idiot.

Maybe if we won something it would pull us all together.

Feel better?
 
Wing you should call Coca Cola and tell them to stop advertising. I just saw a commercial and for the life of me I can't think of a single person I know who isn't familiar with the brand and has never tasted the product.

There must be some real morons running every single company I am reminded of every day that everyone knows exists.

Is it fun doing an impersonation of Waylon/Nelson and pretending someone said something they didn't say, so you then have something to use to try and make yourself look smart?

You ignored half my post and completely twisted the other half. Exactly how insecure are you?
 
IT takes 6 days to have a parade? What the hell is going on so important on Thursday/Friday/Saturday?
 
Giants/Patriots win the superbowl and the parade is on a weekday and there are 10 million things going on in NYC or Boston. When Giants won they had the parade and then went to the stadium for a pep rally. UConn wins 2 NCs and we need to make sure 0 other things are going on to have a parade. Wasted opportunity.
 
Are there fans of UConn sports that don't realize we have a football team? (rhetorical)

It's been 10 years, we've won two conference championships, and gone to a BCS bowl. People know we have a team, and they know that we were good for a few years (the attendance shows that) and that we sucked the past few years (the attendance shows that). We are long past the point where using basketball to introduce people to UConn Football will have any meaningful impact (JMHO).

A couple pages back, I asked some naive questions about whether there would be hardware and/or players at Rentschler. I clicked Like when I got a direct response, even though the answer felt a bit tinged with impatience. That's OK. Really.

Now, I've come back to read the back-and-forth. Even with the name-calling and such, it seems pretty clear that people on all sides would like to see some connection that "leverages" the double National Championships and the 2 reigning best coaches in their respective sports introducing what we'd all like to believe is another great coach. And I do not see any clear indication that there will be a tie-in. It may occur, and I'll keep looking. I think it'd make great sense, and it'd surely serve my needs.

Allow me to answer the rhetorical question above in a sincere and literal fashion.

Yes, I *realize* that we have a football team. And I even know that the team played in minor bowl games and then even a BCS bowl. But I also know that the stadium is smaller than those at aspirational peers. And I know that the team performed poorly in the most recent seasons. And, as such, I turned down free corporate box seats for the Memphis game, even though I thought it might be an interesting 'recon' mission to see what the story was. I'd already tailgated, literally down the block from me, at the Yale-Brown game, and I liked the camaraderie and heading down the block in the other direction to Delaney's afterward. Maybe The Rent could be as fun. But do I really want to drive an hour both ways to find out? Not without a freebie looksee. Sorry, that's the state of the art.

But that's not all . . .

My half century love for MBB comes from weeknight pre-I-84 sojourns to Storrs with my dad. He and my uncle told me during the years that I was living in New York that UCONN would need football for the long term. And they were clear that it meant the real thing, not just limited but steadily good Villanova/Delaware football. To me, that always felt and still feels like wishes of regular NCAA Top 25 basketball teams that we all had 25 years ago when we were an also-ran in the BE. In other words, "How ya gonna do that?" And there I've comfortably sat . . . until last year's Conference Realignment clapsterfrack, and this past season's 0-9 football start. I now see, like my dad and uncle before me, that we *have* to have good football for the long haul. Being the best basketball school in the universe is not enough. Damn.

I want to modestly offer that we are NOT long past the time when using basketball to introduce football will have any meaningful impact. We are, at least for me (and I don't think I am alone) at precisely the time when using basketball CAN have a meaningful impact. And MUST. My dream would be to see at www.uconnhuskies.org that there will be some sort of tie-in on Saturday, and that notification of it has been posted while I've been typing this Reply. I'll feel much more thankful than foolish if that's the case, but I can also say that I'm not going to drive to East Hartford and back for football alone on Saturday. As to Sunday, I'm actually passing through Hartford, but I'm due at my u87 year-old aunt's for dinner in Longmeadow, MA at 5. With slightly different timing, I'd have leveraged the convenience and checked out the parade . . . but not otherwise.

If UCONN aspires to P5 status, it will need more fans and a larger stadium to accommodate them. I'm in that target market. This has been the view from that perspective, without calling anybody names or questioning accuracy, sanity, awareness or anything else. "You're welcome" for my interest in Connecticut football.
 
This thread existed in 1999, too, only the posts focused on meeting at the carousel and being excited.
 
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@Hans Sprungfeld is the exact type of fan we need for UConn football. The guy has bled blue for decades and this would be the prime chance to bring guys like him into the fold.

Geno/KO fire up the crowd, Diaco comes out does his thing and the game is good. You can't tell me fired up UConn basketball only fans wouldn't be at least interested in football.
 
I mean no disrespect, but he said he'd do it if given the chance. He had the chance in 2011 and didn't do it. The school did something in 2011, Pasqualoni showed that what happens on the field is what's going to determine fan interest.

He won't drive an hour for a free look at the rent and free football game with free parking because basketball isn't involved? Then he won't pay to drive back this fall, when basketball isn't involved.

Like I said repeatedly. We should be doing something. It's crazy not to. But to expect it to have a meaningful impact is naive. Winning games is what will have an impact.

We are completely screwed if there are a bunch of fans like this. They seem to understand that without support for the football program we are stuck in the AAC and the basketball programs are on life support. But driving an hour for an entirely free event is too much to ask because it's not tied to basketball.

That's like saying I know I need to see the doctor to help me get better, and there's no co-pay involved, but it's too far to drive without a free lollipop.

@CHB- I totally agree, I don't recall ever saying those were bad ideas. All I said was I didn't have a problem with the 4pm Sunday parade and that they should also be doing something Saturday.
 
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@WingU-Conn The spring game is a tough sale but just getting people into the building who wouldn't normally be there is the start. Just because Hans or others had the shot in 2011 and didn't buy in to football, we should give up and accept the die hard be is 20-25k and call it a day?

Believe it or not but the people that won't drive an hour to spring game are the most important target the AD should be targeting if we want to get out of this mess.
 
@WingU-Conn The spring game is a tough sale but just getting people into the building who wouldn't normally be there is the start. Just because Hans or others had the shot in 2011 and didn't buy in to football, we should give up and accept the die hard be is 20-25k and call it a day?

Believe it or not but the people that won't drive an hour to spring game are the most important target the AD should be targeting if we want to get out of this mess.

Like I said repeatedly. We should be doing something. It's crazy not to. But to expect it to have a meaningful impact is naive. Winning games is what will have an impact.

Yes. We should give up. That's exactly what I said. :rolleyes:

Like I wrote in the edit above:

Saying you won't drive an hour for an entirely free event because it's not tied to basketball is like saying you won't go see a free doctor because you aren't getting a lollipop.

I think UConn not doing something is incredibly stupid. I also think passing on a free football game with free parking, while acknowledging that failure to support football will contribute to the death of basketball, is equally stupid.
 
@WingU-Conn Again, you are a die hard fan, it doesn't matter what you or I think.You think it's stupid to not attend a free event an hour away - guess what a lot of people think it's stupid to pay money and drive an hour to watch the games.

You have said they should do something, but having hjust the titles there is classic half assed UConn maneuver.. This should've been a huge event but it won't.
 
@WingU-Conn Again, you are a die hard fan, it doesn't matter what you or I think.You think it's stupid to not attend a free event an hour away - guess what a lot of people think it's stupid to pay money and drive an hour to watch the games.

You have said they should do something, but having hjust the titles there is classic half assed UConn maneuver.. This should've been a huge event but it won't.

And those people aren't going to start coming to games in the fall, and start supporting the team, just because they got to see the trophy and listen to Geno and Ollie.

I disagree that it should have been a huge event. The champions deserve to be celebrated apart from the football team. The football team (and Diaco) deserve the chance to showcase their product without the basketball celebration taking away from the game. But if it makes you feel better, unlike most fans (I assume) I'm not just bitching about it on the internet. Here's a copy of the email I sent to Warde this morning.

"Good morning Mr. Manuel,


First I want to congratulate you and your department on the dual championships. Our coaches, staffs, and student-athletes are making us extremely proud. I want to congratulate you on the way you handled Kevin Ollie and the hiring of Bob Diaco. It didn't take long to see why he was your first choice. Which brings me to the point of my email. I am still hopeful that there will be some (minor) celebration at the Spring Game for the basketball teams. I will be there as always, but in 2011 we were able to view the National and Big East Championship trophies (as well as the 2010 Football Big East trophy). There were also posters distributed celebrating the championship. If nothing is done similar to that, I fear we are missing an opportunity to bring some awareness to the exciting future of the football team. Hopefully, it is not too late to make a few players and/or coaches available for autographs and photos.

I'm sure they are all exhausted after the past month, but I think a few hours Saturday afternoon would go a long way. Either way, I'll be at both the game and the parade. Keep up the great work, and I hope your conversations with Jim Delany are proving to be a little more fruitful after the month we just had.

Thank you very much for your time."
 
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