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Wing you should call Coca Cola and tell them to stop advertising. I just saw a commercial and for the life of me I can't think of a single person I know who isn't familiar with the brand and has never tasted the product.

There must be some real morons running every single company I am reminded of every day that everyone knows exists.
 
I can't think of a better reason to introduce UConn football than after P sucked the life out of the program and now we have a well respected, energetic and up beat coach why would we possibly want to show him off.

People on here don't realize the casual fans perspective in the state about the program. I'm consider myself "die hard" but the spring game has never had any juice to it, so why would I make a 3 hr trip up here and better yet why would a casual fan even think about going?

UConn is doing a lot of things better but this was a missed opportunity - I don't seewhy anyone would want to debate that.
 
Let's have a contest to see what the most trivial matter we can get BYers to get self-righteous about. I love 50% of us calling the other 50% stupid. Maybe we can catch someone in a typo and then we all know they are an idiot.

Maybe if we won something it would pull us all together.
 
Let's have a contest to see what the most trivial matter we can get BYers to get self-righteous about. I love 50% of us calling the other 50% stupid. Maybe we can catch someone in a typo and then we all know they are an idiot.

Maybe if we won something it would pull us all together.

Feel better?
 
Wing you should call Coca Cola and tell them to stop advertising. I just saw a commercial and for the life of me I can't think of a single person I know who isn't familiar with the brand and has never tasted the product.

There must be some real morons running every single company I am reminded of every day that everyone knows exists.

Is it fun doing an impersonation of Waylon/Nelson and pretending someone said something they didn't say, so you then have something to use to try and make yourself look smart?

You ignored half my post and completely twisted the other half. Exactly how insecure are you?
 
IT takes 6 days to have a parade? What the hell is going on so important on Thursday/Friday/Saturday?
 
Giants/Patriots win the superbowl and the parade is on a weekday and there are 10 million things going on in NYC or Boston. When Giants won they had the parade and then went to the stadium for a pep rally. UConn wins 2 NCs and we need to make sure 0 other things are going on to have a parade. Wasted opportunity.
 
Are there fans of UConn sports that don't realize we have a football team? (rhetorical)

It's been 10 years, we've won two conference championships, and gone to a BCS bowl. People know we have a team, and they know that we were good for a few years (the attendance shows that) and that we sucked the past few years (the attendance shows that). We are long past the point where using basketball to introduce people to UConn Football will have any meaningful impact (JMHO).

A couple pages back, I asked some naive questions about whether there would be hardware and/or players at Rentschler. I clicked Like when I got a direct response, even though the answer felt a bit tinged with impatience. That's OK. Really.

Now, I've come back to read the back-and-forth. Even with the name-calling and such, it seems pretty clear that people on all sides would like to see some connection that "leverages" the double National Championships and the 2 reigning best coaches in their respective sports introducing what we'd all like to believe is another great coach. And I do not see any clear indication that there will be a tie-in. It may occur, and I'll keep looking. I think it'd make great sense, and it'd surely serve my needs.

Allow me to answer the rhetorical question above in a sincere and literal fashion.

Yes, I *realize* that we have a football team. And I even know that the team played in minor bowl games and then even a BCS bowl. But I also know that the stadium is smaller than those at aspirational peers. And I know that the team performed poorly in the most recent seasons. And, as such, I turned down free corporate box seats for the Memphis game, even though I thought it might be an interesting 'recon' mission to see what the story was. I'd already tailgated, literally down the block from me, at the Yale-Brown game, and I liked the camaraderie and heading down the block in the other direction to Delaney's afterward. Maybe The Rent could be as fun. But do I really want to drive an hour both ways to find out? Not without a freebie looksee. Sorry, that's the state of the art.

But that's not all . . .

My half century love for MBB comes from weeknight pre-I-84 sojourns to Storrs with my dad. He and my uncle told me during the years that I was living in New York that UCONN would need football for the long term. And they were clear that it meant the real thing, not just limited but steadily good Villanova/Delaware football. To me, that always felt and still feels like wishes of regular NCAA Top 25 basketball teams that we all had 25 years ago when we were an also-ran in the BE. In other words, "How ya gonna do that?" And there I've comfortably sat . . . until last year's Conference Realignment clapsterfrack, and this past season's 0-9 football start. I now see, like my dad and uncle before me, that we *have* to have good football for the long haul. Being the best basketball school in the universe is not enough. Damn.

I want to modestly offer that we are NOT long past the time when using basketball to introduce football will have any meaningful impact. We are, at least for me (and I don't think I am alone) at precisely the time when using basketball CAN have a meaningful impact. And MUST. My dream would be to see at www.uconnhuskies.org that there will be some sort of tie-in on Saturday, and that notification of it has been posted while I've been typing this Reply. I'll feel much more thankful than foolish if that's the case, but I can also say that I'm not going to drive to East Hartford and back for football alone on Saturday. As to Sunday, I'm actually passing through Hartford, but I'm due at my u87 year-old aunt's for dinner in Longmeadow, MA at 5. With slightly different timing, I'd have leveraged the convenience and checked out the parade . . . but not otherwise.

If UCONN aspires to P5 status, it will need more fans and a larger stadium to accommodate them. I'm in that target market. This has been the view from that perspective, without calling anybody names or questioning accuracy, sanity, awareness or anything else. "You're welcome" for my interest in Connecticut football.
 
This thread existed in 1999, too, only the posts focused on meeting at the carousel and being excited.
 
@Hans Sprungfeld is the exact type of fan we need for UConn football. The guy has bled blue for decades and this would be the prime chance to bring guys like him into the fold.

Geno/KO fire up the crowd, Diaco comes out does his thing and the game is good. You can't tell me fired up UConn basketball only fans wouldn't be at least interested in football.
 
I mean no disrespect, but he said he'd do it if given the chance. He had the chance in 2011 and didn't do it. The school did something in 2011, Pasqualoni showed that what happens on the field is what's going to determine fan interest.

He won't drive an hour for a free look at the rent and free football game with free parking because basketball isn't involved? Then he won't pay to drive back this fall, when basketball isn't involved.

Like I said repeatedly. We should be doing something. It's crazy not to. But to expect it to have a meaningful impact is naive. Winning games is what will have an impact.

We are completely screwed if there are a bunch of fans like this. They seem to understand that without support for the football program we are stuck in the AAC and the basketball programs are on life support. But driving an hour for an entirely free event is too much to ask because it's not tied to basketball.

That's like saying I know I need to see the doctor to help me get better, and there's no co-pay involved, but it's too far to drive without a free lollipop.

@CHB- I totally agree, I don't recall ever saying those were bad ideas. All I said was I didn't have a problem with the 4pm Sunday parade and that they should also be doing something Saturday.
 
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@WingU-Conn The spring game is a tough sale but just getting people into the building who wouldn't normally be there is the start. Just because Hans or others had the shot in 2011 and didn't buy in to football, we should give up and accept the die hard be is 20-25k and call it a day?

Believe it or not but the people that won't drive an hour to spring game are the most important target the AD should be targeting if we want to get out of this mess.
 
@WingU-Conn The spring game is a tough sale but just getting people into the building who wouldn't normally be there is the start. Just because Hans or others had the shot in 2011 and didn't buy in to football, we should give up and accept the die hard be is 20-25k and call it a day?

Believe it or not but the people that won't drive an hour to spring game are the most important target the AD should be targeting if we want to get out of this mess.

Like I said repeatedly. We should be doing something. It's crazy not to. But to expect it to have a meaningful impact is naive. Winning games is what will have an impact.

Yes. We should give up. That's exactly what I said. :rolleyes:

Like I wrote in the edit above:

Saying you won't drive an hour for an entirely free event because it's not tied to basketball is like saying you won't go see a free doctor because you aren't getting a lollipop.

I think UConn not doing something is incredibly stupid. I also think passing on a free football game with free parking, while acknowledging that failure to support football will contribute to the death of basketball, is equally stupid.
 
@WingU-Conn Again, you are a die hard fan, it doesn't matter what you or I think.You think it's stupid to not attend a free event an hour away - guess what a lot of people think it's stupid to pay money and drive an hour to watch the games.

You have said they should do something, but having hjust the titles there is classic half assed UConn maneuver.. This should've been a huge event but it won't.
 
@WingU-Conn Again, you are a die hard fan, it doesn't matter what you or I think.You think it's stupid to not attend a free event an hour away - guess what a lot of people think it's stupid to pay money and drive an hour to watch the games.

You have said they should do something, but having hjust the titles there is classic half assed UConn maneuver.. This should've been a huge event but it won't.

And those people aren't going to start coming to games in the fall, and start supporting the team, just because they got to see the trophy and listen to Geno and Ollie.

I disagree that it should have been a huge event. The champions deserve to be celebrated apart from the football team. The football team (and Diaco) deserve the chance to showcase their product without the basketball celebration taking away from the game. But if it makes you feel better, unlike most fans (I assume) I'm not just bitching about it on the internet. Here's a copy of the email I sent to Warde this morning.

"Good morning Mr. Manuel,


First I want to congratulate you and your department on the dual championships. Our coaches, staffs, and student-athletes are making us extremely proud. I want to congratulate you on the way you handled Kevin Ollie and the hiring of Bob Diaco. It didn't take long to see why he was your first choice. Which brings me to the point of my email. I am still hopeful that there will be some (minor) celebration at the Spring Game for the basketball teams. I will be there as always, but in 2011 we were able to view the National and Big East Championship trophies (as well as the 2010 Football Big East trophy). There were also posters distributed celebrating the championship. If nothing is done similar to that, I fear we are missing an opportunity to bring some awareness to the exciting future of the football team. Hopefully, it is not too late to make a few players and/or coaches available for autographs and photos.

I'm sure they are all exhausted after the past month, but I think a few hours Saturday afternoon would go a long way. Either way, I'll be at both the game and the parade. Keep up the great work, and I hope your conversations with Jim Delany are proving to be a little more fruitful after the month we just had.

Thank you very much for your time."
 
I mean no disrespect, but he said he'd do it if given the chance. He had the chance in 2011 and didn't do it. The school did something in 2011, Pasqualoni showed that what happens on the field is what's going to determine fan interest.

He won't drive an hour for a free look at the rent and free football game with free parking because basketball isn't involved? Then he won't pay to drive back this fall, when basketball isn't involved.

Like I said repeatedly. We should be doing something. It's crazy not to. But to expect it to have a meaningful impact is naive. Winning games is what will have an impact.

We are completely screwed if there are a bunch of fans like this. They seem to understand that without support for the football program we are stuck in the AAC and the basketball programs are on life support. But driving an hour for an entirely free event is too much to ask because it's not tied to basketball.

That's like saying I know I need to see the doctor to help me get better, and there's no co-pay involved, but it's too far to drive without a free lollipop.

@CHB- I totally agree, I don't recall ever saying those were bad ideas. All I said was I didn't have a problem with the 4pm Sunday parade and that they should also be doing something Saturday.

I'm assuming that I'm the "he" that I rewrote above in national flag blue, but you didn't quote my post so I could be wrong. If I'm that guy, let me add to the conversation.

In "Confessions of an Advertising Man," David Ogilvy wrote (essentially) that the purpose of an advertisement was to get a person to try a product for the first time. It would be up to the product to live up to the invitation. He also said something like 'nothing could kill a bad product faster than good advertising.' I think he used the example of Gablinger's, which was the first low-carb beer. Many liked the concept and flocked to try the product. It tasted terrible and the product died. But it certainly validated the concept, which was thereafter revisited by Lite Beer from Miller and then Bud Light and now countless others. Probably doesn't much matter how many Boneyarders wouldn't touch either product, but we have an off season for such OT stuff.

Throughout, I've simply shared what would get this one faithful basketball fan to take 4+ hours out of his Saturday (probably solo this time) to do a recon on something that he imagines one day working with either the friends I went to the Yale game with, my uncle, or (best) my girlfriend's grandchildren. To refresh, I'm the guy who was teaching the 3 year olds to say "Go Huskies" last Saturday. The oldest turned 10 on Tuesday and one of the first questions he asked NeNe when she called that morning was whether UCONN had won last night. Knowledge of UCONN in that household prior to the Round of 64? ZERO.

You keep agreeing that something should be done on Saturday. Terrific. But why keep casting aspersions on me, when I'm just trying to be helpful toward elucidating the mindset of a potential fan who has not yet been converted? The doctor's visit analogy doesn't hold up to any close inspection; it attempts to paint me as an idiot and invites me to respond in kind. I can't see any advantage in that.

UCONN has spent a quarter century building a brand, and this is the current key piece of the puzzle. You are correct that there is no substitute for winning football teams, but it's more than plausible that my narrative is worth a respectful consideration. While you claimed that no disrespect was meant, that's a pretty low bar . . . and you might not have succeeded.

Fwiw, in 2011,
  • I did not reside as close to East Hartford as I now do;
  • There were not 2 National Championship teams;
  • Conference Realignment hadn't played out as it did thereafter;
  • There wasn't a new football coach
Otherwise, you are correct that I had my chance and didn't go. But you already know from my first post on the matter, that I didn't even know that there was a Spring Game this coming Saturday until my reading of this thread. And I know that you agree that some basketball presence would help and no basketball presence would be a missed opportunity. Why not stick with the points of agreement, and leave aside questionable assumptions?
 
Will Senhor T. make an appearance or two in the crowd on Sunday? Since it's a family crowd, the full monty, or nutty, wouldn't be appropriate, but seeing his face on some signs in the crowd would be awesome or even a "Thanks for another championship season. The Boneyard" would be great too. I'm away on business until Sunday morning and don't have materials here or I'd make one myself.
 
The idea of combining the Spring Game and the Parade sounds awesome. But logistically, I have no idea how that would work. You have a four-mile parade from downtown Hartford to The Rent? So what, anybody who wants to go to the Spring Game clearly isn't going to be downtown, right? Cause otherwise they'd have to go downtown, watch the parade, then drive to the Rent, presumably with road closures, etc. So that means no tailgating. Which for many younger fans is half the pull.

So now everybody's at The Rent, and nobody's in Downtown Hartford... I mean, it just doesn't make sense. Logistically, it's just too tricky. A great idea, but just extremely difficult to pull off in practice.
 
The idea of combining the Spring Game and the Parade sounds awesome. But logistically, I have no idea how that would work. You have a four-mile parade from downtown Hartford to The Rent? So what, anybody who wants to go to the Spring Game clearly isn't going to be downtown, right? Cause otherwise they'd have to go downtown, watch the parade, then drive to the Rent, presumably with road closures, etc. So that means no tailgating. Which for many younger fans is half the pull.

So now everybody's at The Rent, and nobody's in Downtown Hartford... I mean, it just doesn't make sense. Logistically, it's just too tricky. A great idea, but just extremely difficult to pull off in practice.
I'm fully intending on tailgating for 4 hours Saturday... would have been a shame to have to choose between that and the parade. But I hope they honor the hoops teams appropriately.
 
No response from the AD office. Too bad, they are dropping the ball on this one. They've made a lot of progress in their marketing, that they missed this opportunity surprising.
 
No response from the AD office. Too bad, they are dropping the ball on this one. They've made a lot of progress in their marketing, that they missed this opportunity surprising.

Thanks for your info, efforts and willingness to find common ground.
 
Thanks for your info, efforts and willingness to find common ground.

I apologize if I was being douchey. Was frustrated with dealing with Whaler ignoring my posts that they should do something, while trying to mock me as if I said they shouldn't do anything, and I probably took that out on you.

An hour in the car for me is like 5 minutes, so that wouldn't stop me, but I've driven to Toronto, Indiana (ND), Michigan and Louisville for games. Sometimes I forget people aren't as willing to make an hour drive as I am.
 
So, after thinking about this matter for a few days, I have two questions I want to pose. 1) Is spring football game attendance is really the best way to convert bball-centric fans like Hans to football fans? Or 2) Is spring game attendance a cause of the football fanbase malaise, or is it a symptom of it?

Hans is a bball fan who acknowledges the importance of football for UConn, and we do need fans like him to become ticket buyers and put butts in the seats at the Rent. But let's be honest with ourselves... the spring game is not the same thing as a real game against a real opponent. There's nothing at state as far as UConn vs. another school, and it's even debatable how much is at stake as far as starting positions, and the casual fan won't care about that stuff anyway. I would suggest to Hans and the other casual "football curious" fans, to check out the BYU or Boise State home game. Buy a miniplan when they go on sale, or individual game tickets if you don't want to invest in season tickets yet.

Hopefully Diaco gets the team winning quickly, which is the best cure for attendance issues. If the program gets back on track, THEN you will see spring game attendance improve (relating to #2). But I think we are over-valuing the spring game on this thread... it's not like even if we get 25,000 in the rent for the SG, College Game day will mention it for more than a second anyway. Yes, Uconn still has much room to improve in marketing, etc. Winning games, and having fans in the seats takes precedence. Cure the disease, not the symptom.
 
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