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Aluminny69 said:
I thought UConn players were banned from social media during the season? It seems that Geno and CD have relented.
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Just Twitter -- and kids don't really use Twitter anymore.

Recruits use it because coaches still do, but it's not a place where many share anything but major announcements.
 
BostonBay said:
This is Bird (Indiana State) vs. Magic (Michigan State) title game all over again! Ratings on Saturday night will be through the roof, surpassing the 1979 classic.
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I hope you are joking.
Because .... no.
 
In poker probability dictates everyone should win the same number of games, that is for seven players each player should win one in seven hands. The play is betting and folding. Maximize winnings, minimize losses. Recognize a high probability hand and build a pot. Recognize low probability and get out early.

In basketball theoretically each team gets the same number of possessions, same number of shots, same pct made, same number of rebounds equals tie game.

To win, create more turnovers and therefore more shots; more offensive rebounds and therefore more shots; shoot a higher pct from the field - more shots in the paint, transition points, no forced shots, take the best shot. Play better defense than your opponent: get in the passing lanes; contest every shot; get all the defensive rebounds; disrupt side to side play; minimize fouls.

Cinzano is deadly underneath, Marshall is a deadly three point shooter. Martin is a jack of all trades. Put one defender on Clark and shut down the others. Overall talent wins out. Liv, AE and Aubrey are more talented underneath. I would rather see Aubrey start over AE. A dominating defense is not as important in this game, as much as Aubrey's presence on the perimeter and underneath, her speed and knack for getting to the ball.

more rebounds + less turnovers = more fg attempted. more transition points, more paint points, best shot = better fg pct.
better defense, more oppostion turnovers, forcing poor shots - fewer fg attempted and lower fg pct.
 
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CajunHusky said:
In poker probability dictates everyone should win the same number of games, that is for seven players each player should win one in seven hands. The play is betting and folding. Maximize winnings, minimize losses. Recognize a high probability hand and build a pot. Recognize low probability and get out early.

In basketball theoretically each team gets the same number of possessions, same number of shots, same pct made, same number of rebounds equals tie game.

To win, create more turnovers and therefore more shots; more offensive rebounds and therefore more shots; shoot a higher pct from the field - more shots in the paint, transition points, no forced shots, take the best shot. Play better defense than your opponent: get in the passing lanes; contest every shot; get all the defensive rebounds; disrupt side to side play; minimize fouls.

Cinzano is deadly underneath, Marshall is a deadly three point shooter. Martin is a jack of all trades. Put one defender on Clark and shut down the others. Overall talent wins out. Liv, AE and Aubrey are more talented underneath. I would rather see Aubrey start over AE. A dominating defense is not as important in this game, as much as Aubrey's presence on the perimeter and underneath and her speed knack for getting to the ball.

more rebounds + less turnovers = more fg attempted. more transition points, more paint points, best shot = better fg pct.
better defense, more oppostion turnovers, forcing poor shots - fewer fg attempted and lower fg pct.
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Marshall averages 1.8 3 PT/game. That is nothing really to worry about, she has a good % but clearly doesn’t take enough to really be worrisome.
 
Heytherego said:
I just think people are underselling Liv. Anytime we face someone with a decent post, the narrative seems to be Liv isn’t going to do well. I thought last night playing against Cuse she proved herself. Iowa’s big is definitely physical and not to be underestimated but I think Liv will be fine with her. Kentucky kind of let her get passes inside, if Liv fronts her (like last night) it’ll be fine. Even if the girl gets a decent pass I think Liv’s size will bother her enough. I agree though I think one of them will get into foul trouble and hopefully it’s not Liv.
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I'm a big ONO supporter, I expect her to be an All American candidate next season but historically she's disappeared at times in big games against big posts but certainly played well last night.........Czinano torched Maryland in their loss recently........she was an unstoppable force..........ONO has to front her so she doesn't get the ball down low because this player really knows how to convert from underneath and draws plenty of fouls too............
 
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Heytherego said:
Marshall averages 1.8 3 PT/game. That is nothing really to worry about, she has a good % but clearly doesn’t take enough to really be worrisome.
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needs must ..... when you got Czinano, Iowa's better shot is underneath. But if Liv shuts down the underneath and the guards harasses Clark effectively, Marshall will take more shots outside and then she is something to worry about.
 
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Charliebball said:
I'm a big ONO supporter, I expect her to be an All American candidate next season but historically she's disappeared at times in big games against big posts but certainly played well last night.........Czinano torched Maryland in their loss recently........she was an unstoppable force..........ONO has to front her so she doesn't get the ball down low because this player really knows how to convert from underneath and draws plenty of fouls too............
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Czinano is deadly around the basket. She is quick with the ball with excellent footwork... reminds me of Tuck.
 
Note: Lisa Bluder is no slouch. I haven’t looked at my coaching win list, but I think she’s the only one with a legit shot at getting to 1000 wins in the next 1-2 decades.
 
not sure if anybody has brought up that there is another Iowa player that has played with and battled against Paige Bueckers for years and that's Lauren Jensen...........I remember she played PB to a standoff in one high school game either last year or the year before..........I believe she finished right behind PB for Minnesota Player of the Year...........has only played about seven minutes a game for Iowa so far this season.....
 
UConn-Iowa is gonna be FUN BASKETBALL TO WATCH!!! How could anyone not be excited or talking about it?!? Jeez, we have too great young women who are AA as freshman, and who also happen to be really good people (Caitlin is from Iowa where Kiah's dad (Stokes) said everyone is "Nice" - I've been there and agree. And Caitlin rejected ND because it didn't feel right - have to LOVE her, right!?!?). And those two young women happen to like each other and have achieved great things for USA BB together, but are now gonna compete against each other. There are so many intriguing questions about who is going to guard who and how and who will ultimately prevail. Anyone remember what it was like to watch AAC games -zzzzz? This kind of game is what it is all about - gets the adrenalin flowing - deserves hype IMO. It's UConn against Iowa with great individual matchups and players to watch within team play. Get the popcorn and a comfortable seat and ENJOY it.
 
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Thought this was a really interesting stat brought up by Landers at half time of the Wright State/Mo State game.

They're both so good and SO DIFFERENT.
 
eebmg said:
and maybe reinforces that we got the right freshman superstar for our UConn system.
😍😍😍🙏🙏🙏
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Agreed. I think Caitlin can shine so bright because of the system she’s allowed to play in. Paige could be a high volume shooter and likely match Caitlin’s numbers, that’s not our system. Looks like they both chose the right places to shine brightest, excellent players.
 
Tonyc said:
To different player roles for their team. Paige's is to get everybody involved and Catlin is to shoot first then get other involved. UConn wins this one big. Both are AA's and great players. Let's stop comparing them. This is a team game and UConn has the better team.
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“Yes let’s not make this a competition.
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But oh by the way Clark is a selfish score-first person.”

lol
 
Vowelguy said:
“Yes let’s not make this a competition.
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But oh by the way Clark is a selfish score-first person.”

lol
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Let's see the second ranked assist leader is a score first person .... I think the self described "contrarian" is enjoying their alternative facts.
 
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CajunHusky said:
Let's see the second ranked assist leader is a score first person .... I think the self described "contrarian" is enjoying their alternative facts.
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Are you familiar with the meaning of quotation marks?
 
My own personal view

Caitlin is like a super intense action movie
Paige is like a beautifully orchestrated classical concert.

But each in their own way can take on the characteristics of the other
 
Imagine how many points Paige could put up if that was her primary role? All of UConn's players were highly ranked recruits and buy into the team first concept.
 
eebmg said:
My own personal view

Caitlin is like a super intense action movie
Paige is like a beautifully orchestrated classical concert.

But each in their own way can take on the characteristics of the other
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Could not agree with this comparison more! Caitlin is the Patrick Swayze Red Dawn while Paige is the Royal Concertgebouw.
 
Vowelguy said:
Are you familiar with the meaning of quotation marks?
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in the absence of attribution I took it as emphasizing the author's opinions rather than literal ..... (especially since following the TonyC citation there was nothing like want you quoted) but you are welcome to provide clarity and expand, maybe I missed the link (I didn't spend more than quick click researching the referenced TonyC post).
 
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I just think they are different. I used to be in the Paige is way more efficient and wins way more camp, but Paige’s efficiency came down to earth a little and Clark’s got a little better - and they started winning more. So now it’s pretty fair to put them in the same breath - the way Taurasi and Beard were in the same breath for a long time until DT put a lid on that with title No. 3.

Iowa wants to play high scoring games, and Clark has the green light and has the ball in her hands a ton. I have never seen Paige come down and shoot a three (or a jumper) without getting into some sort of offense where other players touch the ball, and Clark does that 4-5 times a game - by design, since they want her to constantly put pressure on the defense and look for shots before the other team is organized.

Iowa has much better spacing than we do, since all of their other perimeter players - Martin, Marshall, Warnock and Taiwo - shoot the 3 at a very high clip. When Clark drives, she doesn’t see three bodies in the paint the way Paige does, since we don’t have that kind of shooting, so people can say and help. Instead, we rely more on ball movement and player movement to get shots. Iowa has a really good system for her to thrive with her shot-making skills, and sometimes I wish we could stick three-point shooters on either wing and just let Paige go to work. In future years Paige should see more driving lanes with Fudd and DuCharme keeping defenders at home, though.
 
Two more SEC teams lose today so far. Is there just one SEC team left in the tournament?

correction: apparently there are two left: aTm and SC
 
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Holly saying ESPN is working on a feature of Caitlin / Paige

Also, she said they never played against each other in any game.
 
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