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pj said:
They should expand with UConn. No buyout necessary. Cross-country travel is not a big deal for a small number of football games.
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Perhaps the bb teams and football pay for themselves and football is affordable.

Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Track & field? Etc etc?
 
visitingcock said:
Perhaps the bb teams and football pay for themselves and football is affordable.

Baseball? Softball? Soccer? Track & field? Etc etc?
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I'm thinking UConn stays in the Big East for all other sports and is football only for the Pac.
 
pj said:
I'm thinking UConn stays in the Big East for all other sports and is football only for the Pac.
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Would they want you as a football-only member? I would think they would want both bb programs.
 
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visitingcock said:
Would they want you as a football-only member? I would think they would want both bb programs.
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It's possible that they'd want to play us in football to get some east coast TV time slots, and could make a deal with one to two basketball games a year for men's and women's as part of the deal.

But realistically probably too far fetched that this would happen.
 
visitingcock said:
Would they want you as a football-only member? I would think they would want both bb programs.
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It would make sense for both WSU and OSU to get into some kind of agreement with UConn to play yearly games. For one, it will be two less games for Uconn to schedule each year and one less game for OSU and WSU to schedule each year. For another, both OSU and WSU will get East Coast exposure while UConn will get more West Coast exposure. Also, it will give all 3 schools new audiences which can translate into better TV ratings.

Obviously, 3 teams can't make a conference but it can be some kind of scheduling arrangement that can benefit media partners and all 3 schools involved.

For UConn, 2 games against the PAC-2 each year is better than against 2 G5 teams.
 
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Rufus said:
This should not have happened until 12:00 AM on August 2nd.
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Why is that? Just because a school postpones when it joins a new conference doesn't mean it's former conference needs to extend it's departure date.
 
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What happened with The PAC 12 will be a great case study for how greed, hubris, and incompetent management can destroy something longstanding and prominent. Its amazing how the Franken 12 will potentially outlive both the PAC 12 and ACC, when both appeared poised to outlive them.
 
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Ldandy said:
What happened with The PAC 12 will be a great case study for how greed, hubris, and incompetent management can destroy something longstanding and prominent. Its amazing how the Franken 12 will potentially outlive both the PAC 12 and ACC, when both appeared poised to outlive them.
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The Big 12’s ironic advantage over the ACC and PAC-12 is that once Texas and OU announced they were leaving, the Big 12 had no members attractive enough for the Big 2 to poach, which provided stability. Everyone knew the PAC-12 and ACC would get raided in a major way, sooner or later. Now, the Pac-12 is dead and the ACC may or may not be dead soon too, depending on how the next round of realignment plays out.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Why is that? Just because a school postpones when it joins a new conference doesn't mean it's former conference needs to extend it's departure date.
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The schools didn't postpone anything. The current PAC-12 media rights contract/grant of rights runs until midnight August 2nd. That is the termination of the contract/termination of the conference as we know it.
 
pick6s said:
The Big 12’s ironic advantage over the ACC and PAC-12 is that once Texas and OU announced they were leaving, the Big 12 had no members attractive enough for the Big 2 to poach, which provided stability. Everyone knew the PAC-12 and ACC would get raided in a major way, sooner or later. Now, the Pac-12 is dead and the ACC may or may not be dead soon too, depending on how the next round of realignment plays out.
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The meek shall inherit the earth?
 
pick6s said:
The Big 12’s ironic advantage over the ACC and PAC-12 is that once Texas and OU announced they were leaving, the Big 12 had no members attractive enough for the Big 2 to poach, which provided stability. Everyone knew the PAC-12 and ACC would get raided in a major way, sooner or later. Now, the Pac-12 is dead and the ACC may or may not be dead soon too, depending on how the next round of realignment plays out.
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You're not wrong. This is part of the hubris that I was writing about in my previous post. The leadership in both The Pac 12 and ACC saw/see themselves as too big to fail. They falsely believed/believe that they're the ones calling shots, not the little old Big 12. Meanwhile The Big 12 was shoring up its own membership issues, making themselves more attractive to TV, and offering a landing spot for wayward programs who had/will have the rug pulled out from under them.

JMO but the PAC could have survived the last round of realignment by making a move on the Big 12 when the tectonic plates start shifting around Texlhoma's move to The SEC. The PAC could have gone hard after Kansas, OK State, Iowa State, and TT. If USC and UCLA still moved on to The Big 10, they could have grabbed a SDSU and Houston from The AAC. This would have mortally wounded the Big 12, making The PAC's Overall Product a 2-time zone offering instead of one. It would have siphoned available money away from the Big 12's Deal and likely pulled more in for them. Even without USC and UCLA, the conference could have commanded ACC level money or more if the appearance of holding strong was in place. I'm not sure the B1G was sold on taking UO and UW in the first place, but they just said, "might as well since they're there for the taking." If it was more complicated than that, they probably would have passed.
 
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huskymedic said:
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This is a pretty accurate depiction of the state of things. Two teams consoling each other because they know that they're facing a very uncertain future. Four teams resigned to their fate. Not necessarily happy about it but understanding that things could be much worse. Four teams celebrating their good fortune. Finally, two teams mostly indifferent to the events transpiring. They are demonstrating that for them academics will remain first in conference realignment.
 
Ldandy said:
This is a pretty accurate depiction of the state of things. Two teams consoling each other because they know that they're facing a very uncertain future. Four teams resigned to their fate. Not necessarily happy about it but understanding that things could be much worse. Four teams celebrating their good fortune. Finally, two teams mostly indifferent to the events transpiring. They are demonstrating that for them academics will remain first in conference realignment.
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Colorado and ASU don't even have a brewski in their paws/hooves. It would seem to me they'd be doing keg stands or something even if they are not thrilled with the Big 12. Oregon State might be partaking of a marijuana device.
 
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