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[cancontent]

What happened to Prince yesterday? I saw she had 8 minutes and 3 fouls. Head scratcher.

 

[jonson]

What happened to Prince yesterday? I saw she had 8 minutes and 3 fouls. Head scratcher.

Graves said it was a match-up issue, since Utah (which, by the way, has a very decent NET rating and has the best team, according to Graves, in some time) was playing 4, and sometimes even 5, guards. Sabally could (mostly) hold her own defensively, since she moves really well for a big, but Sedona not so much.

 

[cancontent]

Graves said it was a match-up issue, since Utah (which, by the way, has a very decent NET rating and has the best team, according to Graves, in some time) was playing 4, and sometimes even 5, guards. Sabally could (mostly) hold her own defensively, since she moves really well for a big, but Sedona not so much.

Appreciate the explanation. Makes a lot of sense.

 

[LoTrader]

Not to upset you but Scott is losing his luster. He does not seem to be the same energetic guy that had players like Sydney Weiss and Marie Gulich. I think everyone can hit a wall that they have to push through and maybe he will get that mojo back. I don't think he adapts well for what he has available.

Hard to say what is the issue. I just know the performance vs WSU was unlike what I expect to see from OSU (even in a loss). OSU's performance this weekend will either support your premise or possibly reveal a different premise.

 

[Figurehead]

You were extremely critical of Rueck during their losing streak last year and then it was crickets about his coaching during their run beginning in late January that included zero losses to teams that didn't make the final four and three wins over UCLA and Oregon (2x).

Did his luster reappear late last season and it has already disappeared?

If you think he is right on track this year then that is your opinion. When people that never questioned it before in a couple of osu forums begin to do so in increasing numbers then one should take notice. I don’t think he embraces the portal like he should have with the point guard situation. If people are happy with not using the portal then that is obviously their choice.

 

[Figurehead]

You were extremely critical of Rueck during their losing streak last year and then it was crickets about his coaching during their run beginning in late January that included zero losses to teams that didn't make the final four and three wins over UCLA and Oregon (2x).

Did his luster reappear late last season and it has already

Maybe it will with Coach Tinkle too?

 

[Figurehead]

If a team has 5 or 6 players available do they have to forfeit according to NCAA rules? Someone was asking me that.

 

[Figurehead]

I asked the ticket office at Oregon if they take into consideration on trying to reschedule Covid delayed games at least later in the afternoon. The last one was at 11:00 am. I was polite about it but the response was basically screw the fans. I understand the logistics of it but it seems especially in the Covid years a thinking has crept in that ia basically saying the fans don’t matter. Funny how it matters when they ask for $$$$ at renewal times. Of course this is Oregon so everyone thinks Knight is paying all the bills. I guess the ticket person could have responded better but it was probably a student answering the phone. Just not a good way to build your fan base which has taken a hit during Covid. Maybe other schools that actually need the fans support from more than just one mega donor have it better because they are needed. Anyone? Knight is not going to live forever, oregon AD department seems to forget this at times.

 

[Figurehead]

Pac-12 office has officially announced a forfeit against UCLA for not playing Oregon due to injuries not related to COVID.

 

[LwrcasefaN]

UCLA is going through a really rough year. I feel for them. If they went undefeated from here, do they even have the minimum number of games to qualify for the NCAA tournament?

 

[VA Huskie]

I have a question for PAC 12 followers. Does anyone know what happened to Shamera Williams on USC. She transferred from UVA a couple of years ago and has never played a game at USC. She was a pretty good player and a top 60 recruit. I see that she’s still listed on the Trojans roster. I’ve googled her name and no recent info shows up. Just curious as I enjoyed watching her when she was here and she looked to have a pretty good future.

 

[JellyBean]

Oregon just went ham on USC. Sabally and Rogers had a pretty solid night. 23/19 That Oregon squad, if they can stay healthy, they will push and probably defeat Stanford. I think they have the size and shooters that can knock Stanford from the top of the mountain in the PAC 12.

 

[JellyBean]

I have a question for PAC 12 followers. Does anyone know what happened to Shamera Williams on USC. She transferred from UVA a couple of years ago and has never played a game at USC. She was a pretty good player and a top 60 recruit. I see that she’s still listed on the Trojans roster. I’ve googled her name and no recent info shows up. Just curious as I enjoyed watching her when she was here and she looked to have a pretty good future.

Great question. I remember Shamera being on the roster at USC. She was on the roster with Endyia Rogers that transferred to Oregon. I have not heard anything about her since back in the fall and she was doing workouts with the team at one point. Her and Amaya Oliver.

 

[Figurehead]

Great question. I remember Shamera being on the roster at USC. She was on the roster with Endyia Rogers that transferred to Oregon. I have not heard anything about her since back in the fall and she was doing workouts with the team at one point. Her and Amaya Oliver.

She is probably dealing with a lot of things in her life is my guess....


I am not sure what Shemera is doing now but she played high school basketball with her younger sister, Toniah. Her sister who would have been likely recruited by college teams but was shot in the back and paralyzed in August of 2021

Toniah Williams was a basketball player at the Milwaukee Academy of Science, who as a freshman, helped propel the underdog girls basketball team to the state tournament two years ago. Her mother said she transferred to Martin Luther High School last year. She had hopes of becoming a WNBA player, her mother said.

"Toniah has been robbed. She's been robbed of her career," Myshell Prescott, her aunt, said.

Milwaukee man charged with six felonies in shooting that left teen basketball player paralyzed

Jerod D. Brumfield, 35, was charged over the weekend with two counts of first-degree reckless injury and four other felonies.

www.jsonline.com

 

[JellyBean]

She is probably dealing with a lot of things in her life is my guess....


I am not sure what Shemera is doing now but she played high school basketball with her younger sister, Toniah. Her sister who would have been likely recruited by college teams but was shot in the back and paralyzed in August of 2021

Toniah Williams was a basketball player at the Milwaukee Academy of Science, who as a freshman, helped propel the underdog girls basketball team to the state tournament two years ago. Her mother said she transferred to Martin Luther High School last year. She had hopes of becoming a WNBA player, her mother said.

"Toniah has been robbed. She's been robbed of her career," Myshell Prescott, her aunt, said.

Milwaukee man charged with six felonies in shooting that left teen basketball player paralyzed

Jerod D. Brumfield, 35, was charged over the weekend with two counts of first-degree reckless injury and four other felonies.

www.jsonline.com

Thanks for the update and sharing of the article. Wow! Yeah, sounds like she could be dealing with a lot. I hope that she is getting help. My heart goes out to her and her family.

 

[cancontent]

UCLA is going through a really rough year. I feel for them. If they went undefeated from here, do they even have the minimum number of games to qualify for the NCAA tournament?

Rough is putting it mildly. Considering all the potential this roster had prior to the season starting, this has to be a frustrating season.

Coach Close was really irked last night after the game. Was very critical of the PAC-12 office and their policies related to health and safety. I wonder what the conference will do with respect to her comments.

 

[LoTrader]

Felt sorry for UCLA--they are the walking wounded. They gutted out the game with half a squad.

 

[jchusky]

can someone explain to me how Utah and Washington State are in the tournament? I literally see no big wins of important, and they have Oregon State out who I think is better than both.

 

[Figurehead]

Rough is putting it mildly. Considering all the potential this roster had prior to the season starting, this has to be a frustrating season.

Coach Close was really irked last night after the game. Was very critical of the PAC-12 office and their policies related to health and safety. I wonder what the conference will do with respect to her comments.

What is the pac-12 suppose to do? Cancel the season? Suspend games for a month ? I get the frustration but Cal has had 7 games cancelled, UCONN played with a skeleton crew and Oregon played short at the beginning of the season. If we waited for every team to be 100 percent there would be no more games this year.

 

[cancontent]

What is the pac-12 suppose to do? Cancel the season? Suspend games for a month ? I get the frustration but Cal has had 7 games cancelled, UCONN played with a skeleton crew and Oregon played short at the beginning of the season. If we waited for every team to be 100 percent there would be no more games this year.

I hear you 100%. No conference has had it easy and there should be some empathy for the logistical hoops they have had to navigate.

What I'm curious about is how the PAC 12 office responds to the criticism. As they were directed at them will Coach Close get some type of admonishment for them, similar to Coach Barnes and what she said about refereeing?

 

[TheFarmFan]

I hear you 100%. No conference has had it easy and there should be some empathy for the logistical hoops they have had to navigate.

What I'm curious about is how the PAC 12 office responds to the criticism. As they were directed at them will Coach Close get some type of admonishment for them, similar to Coach Barnes and what she said about refereeing?

Pretty sure the admonishment is because the PAC-12 has a policy around criticism of referees and that any feedback is supposed to be shared privately. (i.e., it was not that she flipped the bird). And having a policy to prevent coach criticism of refs in public makes a lot of sense because that is a one-way ratchet that can descend quickly.

I have no idea if they have a similar policy around criticism of health and safety policies, but I doubt it.

 

[cancontent]

Pretty sure the admonishment is because the PAC-12 has a policy around criticism of referees and that any feedback is supposed to be shared privately. (i.e., it was not that she flipped the bird). And having a policy to prevent coach criticism of refs in public makes a lot of sense because that is a one-way ratchet that can descend quickly.

I have no idea if they have a similar policy around criticism of health and safety policies, but I doubt it.

And that's why I'm curious if something would happen because of the tone of her frustration. I don't know if conferences have policies for situations where coaches are saying negative comments about the conference's head office.

 

[undersized]

Link to her comments?

 

[Figurehead]

I hear you 100%. No conference has had it easy and there should be some empathy for the logistical hoops they have had to navigate.

What I'm curious about is how the PAC 12 office responds to the criticism. As they were directed at them will Coach Close get some type of admonishment for them, similar to Coach Barnes and what she said about refereeing?

My thoughts is it is different to criticize the referees verses criticizing the conference. What I am trying to figure out is what comments were made and why UCLA felt like it was treated differently than the other 11 other pac-12 teams. If it is some rule about injuries and playing other than COVID then Close needs to take that up with the NCAA and the rules commitee. Again I am not sure what she is getting at because I have seen nothing written about it.

 

[cancontent]

Link to her comments?

 

[cancontent]

My thoughts is it is different to criticize the referees verses criticizing the conference. What I am trying to figure out is what comments were made and why UCLA felt like it was treated differently than the other 11 other pac-12 teams. If it is some rule about injuries and playing other than COVID then Close needs to take that up with the NCAA and the rules commitee. Again I am not sure what she is getting at because I have seen nothing written about it.

I just found the clip where I heard her make the comment and posted. Not sure if it's been written about in articles.

 

[TheFarmFan]

Didn't seem that big of a deal to me, but... More than anything what I took away from Close is how gracious she was with the media at the end, lauding them for covering her team in a down season and mentioning how much it means to her players:



Close is not my favorite coach from the standpoint of actual coaching, but she's such a class act and likeable person.

 

[cancontent]

Didn't seem that big of a deal to me, but... More than anything what I took away from Close is how gracious she was with the media at the end, lauding them for covering her team in a down season and mentioning how much it means to her players:



Close is not my favorite coach from the standpoint of actual coaching, but she's such a class act and likeable person.

She's always been gracious. Again, I was just curious if she would get into any trouble for the comments she made about the PAC-12 office because of the forfeit.

As it's been pointed out, there doesn't seem to be a policy in place for comments like this towards the PAC-12 office. At the same time, it seems odd that there isn't one. I would have thought there would be something in place, similar to the professional leagues where coaches, players and owners may get fined/reprimanded for negative comments directed towards their respective leagues.

 

[Figurehead]

Again what did the Pac-12 do differently against UCLA that it does for the other 11 Pac-12 schools? can anyone tell me?

Oregon women’s basketball game against UCLA, postponed due to player injuries, declared a forfeit by Bruins

Oregon’s home game against UCLA scheduled for Friday night but postponed on Thursday due to injuries to Bruins players unrelated to COVID protocols, is declared a forfeit by UCLA.

www.oregonlive.com

Pac-12 adjusts COVID-related policies for men’s and women’s basketball

Your best source for quality Arizona Wildcats news, rumors, analysis, stats and scores from the fan perspective.

www.azdesertswarm.com

Taken from both articles:

The Pac-12′s updated game cancellation policy, part of the league’s basketball administration adjustments for the 2021-22 season, allows for a game to be rescheduled or declared a no-contest if a team has fewer than the minimum roster available (at least seven scholarship players and one countable coach). This policy is reserved for the unavailability of players and coaches due to COVID-19.


The Pac-12 will no longer count COVID-related game cancellations in men’s and women’s basketball games as forfeits, while also establishing parameters to be used to determine a postponement, the conference announced Wednesday.


Postponed games will be rescheduled if possible, the league said, and if not the matchup will be deemed a “no contest” and not count toward either team’s conference record. Previously the team that had to cancel would be issued a forfeit and their opponent would get a conference win, as had been the case with Washington men’s basketball getting a forfeit for a COVID cancellation against UCLA earlier this month.




A. So the first question did they have Covid? Yes or No? If yes they can reschedule.

If it was for other reason other than COVID:

Pac-12 Designates Game vs. UCLA a Forfeit by Bruins

EUGENE, Ore. – Due to injuries unrelated to active COVID-19 cases, Oregon's game against UCLA scheduled for Friday, Jan. 28, has been ruled a forfeit by UCLA and will be a win for Oregon in the conference standings in accordance with the Pac-12 handbook's administrative policies, the league...

pac-12.com

Due to injuries unrelated to active COVID-19 cases, Oregon's game against UCLA scheduled for Friday, Jan. 28, has been ruled a forfeit by UCLA and will be a win for Oregon in the conference standings in accordance with the Pac-12 handbook's administrative policies, the league announced Friday.

The updated game cancellation policy, announced as part of the Pac-12's basketball administration adjustments for the 2021-22 season, allows for a game to be rescheduled or declared a no-contest if a team has fewer than the minimum roster available for a scheduled contest (at least seven scholarship players and one countable coach). This policy is reserved for the unavailability of participants due to COVID-19.

No where does it say in the administrative policies of the Pac-12 that games can be rescheduled due to concussions, broken bones, knee injuries, food poisoning and the like. So if there was less than seven players available for reason other than COVID it is a forfeit.

So is Coach Close claiming they had Covid because that is the only arguement she has. Enlighten me on this.

Rules for thee not for me?

 

[nwhoopfan]

With all the games having been postponed and needing to be made up...how is Oregon vs. Arizona St. the only game added to the schedule this week? Is the conference just not even bothering to try at this point? Kinda frustrating.