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With all the games having been postponed and needing to be made up...how is Oregon vs. Arizona St. the only game added to the schedule this week? Is the conference just not even bothering to try at this point? Kinda frustrating.
Well Doug Bruno said they could not have made up the postponed UConn game until SC freed up the schedule. With schedules so tight, I think alot of games will not be made up
 
Well Doug Bruno said they could not have made up the postponed UConn game until SC freed up the schedule. With schedules so tight, I think alot of games will not be made up
It's a foregone conclusion they aren't going to make up every missed game, but it would be nice to chip away at it. Some teams are gonna be close to not getting in the minimum number of games to qualify for NCAA Tourney I think.
 
With all the games having been postponed and needing to be made up...how is Oregon vs. Arizona St. the only game added to the schedule this week? Is the conference just not even bothering to try at this point? Kinda frustrating.

I think that Stanford couldn't really add a game this week with UCLA being on Thursday -- so Seattle wasn't an option. If the rumours about Oregon State ducking a make-up with Stanford are true, there's not really anyone else Stanford needs to make up a game with just yet.
 
It's a foregone conclusion they aren't going to make up every missed game, but it would be nice to chip away at it. Some teams are gonna be close to not getting in the minimum number of games to qualify for NCAA Tourney I think.
Washington and Cal are not going to play 25 games without some make-up.

ASU, Oregon State and UCLA are scheduled for 24 (25 for ASU with this week's make-up) but of course will all play one in the conference tourney - so if no additional cancellations, they would qualify.

The issue is teams that lost non-conference games simply having a low total number of games scheduled at this point. UCLA and Washington will only play 26 games (+1) if they make up what they have missed.

That said - how likely are any of these teams to be making the NCAA tourney?
 
Washington and Cal are not going to play 25 games without some make-up.

ASU, Oregon State and UCLA are scheduled for 24 (25 for ASU with this week's make-up) but of course will all play one in the conference tourney - so if no additional cancellations, they would qualify.

The issue is teams that lost non-conference games simply having a low total number of games scheduled at this point. UCLA and Washington will only play 26 games (+1) if they make up what they have missed.

That said - how likely are any of these teams to be making the NCAA tourney?
Obviously for Cal and Washington it's a non issue, ASU very unlikely, but for UCLA and Oregon St. I wouldn't want to be cutting it that close. There could certainly be more postponed/cancelled games between now and the end of the season. They might be on the wrong side of the bubble, but certainly have a chance to play their way in. Every game matters for them I think.
 
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Washington and Cal are not going to play 25 games without some make-up.

ASU, Oregon State and UCLA are scheduled for 24 (25 for ASU with this week's make-up) but of course will all play one in the conference tourney - so if no additional cancellations, they would qualify.

The issue is teams that lost non-conference games simply having a low total number of games scheduled at this point. UCLA and Washington will only play 26 games (+1) if they make up what they have missed.

That said - how likely are any of these teams to be making the NCAA tourney?
Another question is how do you determine conference standings? Should teams be penalized for making up most of there games but there record suffered because of it verses the team that seem more causal in who they select for make up. The conference and NCAA may look at that and drop them down in seedings. Some teams are more aggressive in getting make up in and others not so much. I will leave it at that.
 
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Another question is how do you determine conference standings? Should teams be penalized for making up most of there games but there record suffered because of it verses the team that seem more causal in who they select for make up. The conference and NCAA may look at that and drop them down in seedings. Some teams are more aggressive in getting make up in and others not so much. I will leave it at that.
In the postgame today Graves mentioned (hinted) that there would be a make-up game next week and another the week after (Colorado at home; and Washington State away, assuming I've got this straight). If so, and if there are no additional cancellations, that would mean that Oregon will have played a full Pac12 schedule (including the UCLA forfeit) by tournament time. Don't know how many other teams will have the same opportunity.
 
I think that Stanford couldn't really add a game this week with UCLA being on Thursday -- so Seattle wasn't an option. If the rumours about Oregon State ducking a make-up with Stanford are true, there's not really anyone else Stanford needs to make up a game with just yet.
Do you have anything more to back up the statement the Oregon State declined a make up a game with Stanford. According to Pac-12 policy they are risking a forfeit.



The Conference office shall have the option to levy a forfeit in the event league standards of sportsmanship are not met in the process of attempting to reschedule a contest.

Which basically means if you are asked to schedule a make up it would be in your best interest to schedule it. They will likely ding teams that have not had due diligence in making up games.
 
In the postgame today Graves mentioned (hinted) that there would be a make-up game next week and another the week after (Colorado at home; and Washington State away, assuming I've got this straight). If so, and if there are no additional cancellations, that would mean that Oregon will have played a full Pac12 schedule (including the UCLA forfeit) by tournament time. Don't know how many other teams will have the same opportunity.
All good on those who have completed the conference with two or less make up games left before Vegas but what about a team that finish let just throw this out there at .500 in the conference. Finishes 6th in the conference at 9-9 and another team at 6-6 also at .500 made up less games.

How do you account for that.

You know in the tourney selection the NCAA is going to have to look at the body of work for each more carefully this year. I think teams that may be eligible may get dinged, slapped down a seed or two or even miss out altogether. Although they met the minimum number of games to be elibible that team with the same win percetage and with a better set of games will get a better consideration. So these coaches walking around dodging (as some rumors have it) and selecting makeup games or not selecting games based on opponent strength might be in for a big surprise in March.

You would not want me on that selection committee.:(
 
I think that Stanford couldn't really add a game this week with UCLA being on Thursday -- so Seattle wasn't an option. If the rumours about Oregon State ducking a make-up with Stanford are true, there's not really anyone else Stanford needs to make up a game with just yet.
Without solid evidence/proof of Oregon State "ducking" Stanford, I am calling this B.S. Any idiot can start a rumor and it will spread easily in social media.
 
Without solid evidence/proof of Oregon State "ducking" Stanford, I am calling this B.S. Any idiot can start a rumor and it will spread easily in social media.
I have not seen anything either. If Lorcan can expand upon it?
 
I have not seen anything either. If Lorcan can expand upon it?
I believe this talk comes from OSU not making up their two missed games against Stanford last season, combined with a remark by Tara (again, last season) to the effect that Stanford wanted to make up missed games but some opponents weren't interested. She did not mention any specific team, but internet message board folks jumped from those thin facts all the way to the conclusion that OSU was ducking Stanford.
 
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I believe this talk comes from OSU not making up their two missed games against Stanford last season, combined with a remark by Tara (again, last season) to the effect that Stanford wanted to make up missed games but some opponents weren't interested. She did not mention any specific team, but internet message board folks jumped from those thin facts all the way to the conclusion that OSU was ducking Stanford.
+1. That's what I was thinking of too. (I thought I had posted something to that effect earlier and I think maybe it got deleted, as now I can't find it?)
 
I believe this talk comes from OSU not making up their two missed games against Stanford last season, combined with a remark by Tara (again, last season) to the effect that Stanford wanted to make up missed games but some opponents weren't interested. She did not mention any specific team, but internet message board folks jumped from those thin facts all the way to the conclusion that OSU was ducking Stanford.
It was one missed game, not two, and Oregon State was specifically mentioned in the video below (around the 5:20 mark), which makes sense given they were the lone team.


Looking at their 20-21 schedule, it does not look like Oregon State rescheduled any games last season.
 
The article below mentions how many league games have been postponed for each team.

Cal has had 7 games postponed.
Oregon State 4 games.
Stanford 3 games.

Looks like the Pac-12 prefers make up games to happen on Wednesdays, and prefers teams don't play more than 5 games every two weeks.

Since Stanford is playing UCLA tonight, they couldn't do a make up game yesterday.

Hopefully Oregon State- Stanford could play on 2/16, but I would think the PAC-12 would prioritize making up the Oregon State-Cal game on that day.

Will be interesting to see if Stanford-Cal can reschedule on 2/9.
 
Some may find it interesting that less than 24 hours after it is announced that Haley Jones is out for 'health and safety protocols', Oregon State is willing to play next Wednesday.

Though, IMO it's a good chance for other Stanford players to get minutes if Haley isn't ready to go next Wednesday.
 
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Some may find it interesting that less than 24 hours after it is announced that Haley Jones is out for 'health and safety protocols', Oregon State is willing to play next Wednesday.

Though, IMO it's a good chance for other Stanford players to get minutes if Haley isn't ready to go next Wednesday.
Well, anyone who saw Stanford demolish UCLA last night knows the Card aren't an easy mark without Jones, so...
 
Well, all credit to Barnes and Graves, but I'm actually more excited for tonight's Arizona-Oregon game that I was for our game against UCLA last night. (In part, of course, because UCLA has a pile of injuries and it didn't seem likely to be an exciting game.)
 
5 minutes to tip off in Desert Financial Arena. If shoot around is any indication it's going to be a long night for the Lady Devils. The beavers didn't miss a single shot from beyond the arc pregame. Taya Hansen is coming off of a 1 for 10 shooting misadventure in Eugene hasn't hit anything, except the floor pregame.
 
Arena. If shoot around is any indication it's going to be a long night for the Lady Devils. The beavers didn't miss a single shot from beyond the arc pregame.
The 3 ball has mostly been absent all year for the Beavs, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
 
5 minutes to tip off in Desert Financial Arena. If shoot around is any indication it's going to be a long night for the Lady Devils. The beavers didn't miss a single shot from beyond the arc pregame. Taya Hansen is coming off of a 1 for 10 shooting misadventure in Eugene hasn't hit anything, except the floor pregame.
Just a friendly note that they aren't called the Lady Sun Devils, and since this is exclusively a women's basketball forum, there is no need to invent such a designation to clarify we're talking about the women's team. And if anything, since the men's team is currently well below .500 and led by a coach who was recently suspended for acting like a child mid temper-tantrum, the men should be playing second fiddle to the ladies these days...
 
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Just a friendly note that they aren't called the Lady Sun Devils, and since this is exclusively a women's basketball forum, there is no need to invent such a designation to clarify we're talking about the women's team. And if anything, since the men's team is currently well below .500 and led by a coach who was recently suspended for acting like a child mid temper-tantrum, the men should be playing second fiddle to the ladies these days...
I agree completely. I'm listening to Jeff Munn on the radio broadcast.

Worth the price of admission to see coach Reuck stand next to Mitrovic.

Love attending ASU WBB since 1974. Regardless of designation they are a fun team to watch.
 
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The 3 ball has mostly been absent all year for the Beavs, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
You are correct, it's Devil's 5-2 advantage from beyond the arc at the half.

And the Curtain of Doom comes out . . .
 
You are correct, it's Devil's 5-2 advantage from beyond the arc at the half.

And the Curtain of Doom comes out . . .
I'm pretty sure you don't even want to think about what this season would be looking like if Loville didn't transfer in.
 
Taylor Jones had shoulder surgery and will miss the rest of the season. I think OSU fans were already kinda prepared for the worst, so not a big surprise.
 
Unless something drastic happens, looking fairly likely that both Oregon St. and UCLA will miss the Tourney this year for the first time in a long time. Not sure who might replace them, Utah and Colorado both seem somewhat unlikely to me. Stanford, Arizona and Oregon seem like the only real locks. The Pac 12 might cannibalize itself this year and have a real dearth of teams in the Tourney.
 
Unless something drastic happens, looking fairly likely that both Oregon St. and UCLA will miss the Tourney this year for the first time in a long time. Not sure who might replace them, Utah and Colorado both seem somewhat unlikely to me. Stanford, Arizona and Oregon seem like the only real locks. The Pac 12 might cannibalize itself this year and have a real dearth of teams in the Tourney.
It's a stretch to characterize the conference "cannibalizing itself" when the bubble teams you mentioned have few to no non-conference wins of note. That said, I'd put the odds at 0% that only 3 Pac-12 teams make the tournament. Someone has to finish 4th (and 5th, etc.) in the conference, after all.
 
Creme's bracketology has Utah, Colorado, and Washington State making the tournament. Washington State just beat Colorado 63-56.

Feel bad for UCLA having a short bench and a lot of injuries for the 2nd year in the row. Oregon State likely re-scheduled the make-up with Stanford to up their strength of schedule since they are on the bubble.
 
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