This is a great point, especially about usc. The Pac 12 is super competitive. I guess UCLA is leaving. But between USC, Arizona, Stanford, Utah, Oregon is looking at an uphill climb over the next couple years, when they seemed destined to be a program etched in the top 3 in the conference perennially.
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Is pili not playing for Utah today? They’re struggling against asu and I don’t see her in box score.
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She turned her ankle in the game vs Arizona.
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re: Pili--not exactly an even trade, but McFarland has missed most of the season and she played today; 9 pts/9 reb is a solid contribution
Utah hung on. Looks like Kneepkens had a big game.
Skinner was 3-16. Does she ever shoot for a high percentage? Sure doesn't seem like it.
Utah hung on. Looks like Kneepkens had a big game.
Skinner was 3-16. Does she ever shoot for a high percentage? Sure doesn't seem like it.
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Arizona beat Colorado handily. Nice weekend for them. Pellington followed up her huge game on Friday w/ 18 pts today on 8-13 shooting and 5 assists. I'm gonna go ahead and give her Pac 12 Player of the Week, regardless of what else happens today.
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No surprise, Washington St. beats Oregon St. I think for the first time ever Beers and Gardiner both had a good game at the same time, combined for 32 pts/18 reb. Both started. Rueck is going with a youth movement, 4 freshmen started. von Oelhoeffen continues to be in one of the worst funks I've ever seen. 1-10 today. Just can't get going. Too much Murekatete and Leger-Walker for the Beavs to handle.
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Oh Well, it was a nice short visit to #25
Uhh USC will leave the PAC-12 along with UCLA and join the B1G starting 1 August 2024. So both the Trojans and Bruins will play their final seasons as members of the PAC-12 in 2023/24. Not sure how you missed that….
I miss a lot of things. Not perfect and don't know everything about all the college realignments. That said point taken about USC.
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Still hard to wrap ones mind around the additional travel times for conference games for UCLA and USC. I wonder if that will factor in a recruits decision.....travel times.
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And we're just talking women's basketball. Imagine how it will be for so many other sports like tennis, lacrosse, soccer, baseball, softball, on and on... it's just another example of how college sports have gone off the rails, losing track of what they're originally intended to be.
It's a lock.Thanks for the correction, I saw that after I posted. Game will be on ESPN2, for those who don't have Pac12 Network.
Another correction, Oregon St. will host Arizona St. That's about as winnable of a game as you can possibly get, so they should at least reach the 4 win plateau...
Opinion from the sports feed of the Arizona Republic
Dodd's prediction for the Pac-12 would have Cal, Stanford, Washington State and Oregon State with Boise State, Fresno State, SMU and San Diego State.
"That lineup would reduce the Power Five to the Power Four, creating implications beyond the Pac-12 itself." he wrote.
Dodd's prediction for the Pac-12 would have Cal, Stanford, Washington State and Oregon State with Boise State, Fresno State, SMU and San Diego State.
"That lineup would reduce the Power Five to the Power Four, creating implications beyond the Pac-12 itself." he wrote.
UCLA, after a very highly rated recruiting class for 2022, has one recruit for 2023 (Amanda Muse). They lost Jada Williams to Arizona (decommit) and I will speculate that Breya Cunningham, Williams' teammate, also decided against UCLA in favor of Arizona for similar reasons. What are those reasons? It could be travel times or it could be something else, but the move to the Big 10 would be the biggest change that would have affected Williams.
I note that UCLA has started posting photos of the team riding in very nice private aircraft for longer trips. So, yes, I bet it's factoring into recruiting.
I recall reading that Breya Cunningham’s mom attended Arizona or is from the Tucson area and that played a part in her decision to commit to Adia Barnes and the Wildcats. Suspect that opportunity to continue to play with Cunningham at the next level and UCLA having point guards Kiki Rice and Londynn Jones in the 2022 recruit class led to Jada Williams‘ decommitting from UCLA and joining Arizona instead (Jada Williams committed to UCLA before Rice or Jones did).
Ironically if Arizona does leave the PAC-12 for the Big-12 then the Wildcats will occasionally have to travel to Ames, Cincinnati, Orlando and Morgantown, not quite the distance that USC and UCLA will, but farther than they travel now.
I suspect most high school recruits are aware of the lack of stability in the Pac-12 conference and have considered what happens when the conference falls apart.
Barnes is an extremely savvy recruiter and has clearly managed to figure out a way to play this to the kitties advantage.
I'd love to hear her living room hitch selling recruits on playing in Oklahoma or Texas as opposed to the Bay area.
Can the Pac 12 survive as a football conference minus the defections?
No offense, bot the NY Post?
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Andrew Marchand is the Post's sports media reporter. He isn't some flake. No one is out there questioning his reporting. In fact, others (Dennis Dodd, Dan Wolken, etc) are retweeting it. It's already been reported that ESPN and Fox have not been offering a lot of $$ for the PAC 12's media rights.
Why would they?