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socal613ws said:
boy that was a bad last minute by oregon state, not sure if it was nerves but they just could even get a shot to hit the rim.
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Yes, but if Oregon State can find some decent guard play going forward (and TVO recovers her 3-point shot), they will be a really formidable team as long as Beers and Gardner stay put. Not only are these bigs really "big," they are also really good (already). (And Mitrovic, despite her limitations, is also a solid add to their frontcourt.)
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
God Stanford is overrated. pac 12 is definitely the most evenly matched conference top to bottom but I don’t know that they have any great teams either.
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Stanford is gonna be a team that can win vs anyone but also can have a clunker vs a conference opponent. I remember the year they won the ntl title they lost to a Colorado team that mighta been under 500. I think people underestimate that our league has a lot of travel issues. Not too long ago they didn't even charter planes to men's games, and the altitude is no joke. Ucla found that out today as Kiki Rice really had a terrible Overtime. Sad to say that USC magic might be running it's course, complete whooping by Utah :(
 
nwhoopfan said:
Cal led most of the game, but Oregon escapes Berkeley with a W.

Utah won by 10, that could very well be the only double digit margin in the conference tonight.
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I was able to watch that Cal/Oregon game this morning. That was a crazy game. Oregon made Cal look really good.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
God Stanford is overrated. pac 12 is definitely the most evenly matched conference top to bottom but I don’t know that they have any great teams either.
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Stanford is like UConn in the Big East, that team that is going to own the PAC 12. They are just that good.
 
My rankings of the PAC for Boneyard poll on Monday. My methodology is Quad One wins minus all losses different than standings because it includes non conference Quad One wins. Ends up being similar to standings.

Stanford (6-2) +4
Utah (5-2) + 3
UCLA (6-4) + 2
Colorado (5-4) +1
USC (3-5) -2
Arizona (2-4) -2

Wash St (2-6) -4
Oregon (2-6) -4
Oregon St (2-9) -7
Washington (1-9) -8
Cal (0-10) -10
Az State (0-11) -11

WILL BE ADJUSTED MONDAY MORNING. We’ll see what happens in other conferences this weekend, but I suspect that the top six will be in my top 25 ballot. The bottom six will not. Oddly to me, I’m guessing that Oregon will be on most other ballots and top 25 in NET. I always feel like Oregon is overrated.
 
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A little off-topic...but I really enjoy the on-air announcing duo of Ann Schatz (I think that's her name) and Mary Murphy. There's a good chemistry between the two of them. They have become one of my favorite announcing pairs in WCBB.

And, of course, I like good old Joan Bonvicini but I'm in the minority on that, I gather.
 
LETTERL said:
A little off-topic...but I really enjoy the on-air announcing duo of Ann Schatz (I think that's her name) and Mary Murphy. There's a good chemistry between the two of them. They have become one of my favorite announcing pairs in WCBB.

And, of course, I like good old Joan Bonvicini but I'm in the minority on that, I gather.
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LETTERL said:
A little off-topic...but I really enjoy the on-air announcing duo of Ann Schatz (I think that's her name) and Mary Murphy. There's a good chemistry between the two of them. They have become one of my favorite announcing pairs in WCBB.

And, of course, I like good old Joan Bonvicini but I'm in the minority on that, I gather.
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Ann Schatz is a wonderful announcer. Used to call the Big East Tournament before she went to the PAC12 Network. Very entertaining.

Now, bear in mind I don't watch much PAC12 on TV - we got SlingTV so we could watch Arizona away games, mostly, and I don't care for the way it seems to work. In any case, I haven't seen Mary Murphy that much, but again, in the day, she called NY LIberty games as well as some of the west coast games for either ESPN or maybe Fox. I didn't mind her then.

Yeah, I like Joan. Every Arizona fan likes Joan. She is actually knowledgeable as far as it goes, but she is an Arizona homer. Only saw her on the call once this year.

I heard that the color commentator last night was Charlie Turner Thorne - I couldn't confirm, I sit next to the opposite end of the announcers table and there were some University VIP's sitting behind the table between me and the TV folks so I couldn't see who was there. If yes - did anyone watch? Was she any good?
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Just curious about the "Oregon & Washington" soon to be gone? I don't read every article about the PAC, but I generally skim the local paper and I get a couple of publications related to "The Athletic" by e-mail and I missed that one.

I don't think it is Group of Five material (that was closer actually a few years ago from what I've read). However, if they don't come up with a way to reinvent the conference I fear the complete disintegration option you mention.
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247sports.com

Big Ten's pursuit of Oregon, Washington, Stanford, Cal could collapse Pac-12: report

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247sports.com 247sports.com

"Oregon initiated preliminary discussions in Chicago w/Big Ten to determine if Ducks are compatible in B1G, source told Action Network HQ,”

clutchpoints.com

Pac-12 Commissioner's Firm Statement Amid Oregon, Washington Big Ten Rumors

Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff made a confident statement in reference to rumors about potential Oregon, Washington departures
clutchpoints.com clutchpoints.com

"Rumors of college football conference-switching dominated the offseason. And those rumors have continued into the regular season as well. There has been speculation that Oregon and Washington could leave the Pac-12 and join the Big 10 soon. However, Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff isn’t worried, per The Athletic"

Well there you go. We know how trustworthy and reliable Pac-12 leadership is.

I love the quote that the Pac-12 commish isn't worried. Clearly Pac-12 leadership hasn't been worried about financial accountability, media rights, the future of the conference, or anything other than self-dealing.
 
Are we sure the current Pac 12 commissioner is actually doing...anything? Seems like it's been crickets since he took over.
 
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Just watched the UCLA-Colorado game and started wondering about Kiki Rice as a pg. it’s a crowded position for the Bruins with Osborne and Jones. Rice is a huge talent, obviously, but she may have an opportunity to develop her game in a different direction, maybe as a slashing shooting guard. She has the skills for this as well. And her defensive skills, which are formidable, might work there as well. She can run the floor well and is an excellent finisher at the rim and on the break, and an active rebounder. Could she be an Aubrey Griffin type of player with even better half court skills?
 
Bone Dog said:
Just watched the UCLA-Colorado game and started wondering about Kiki Rice as a pg. it’s a crowded position for the Bruins with Osborne and Jones. Rice is a huge talent, obviously, but she may have an opportunity to develop her game in a different direction, maybe as a slashing shooting guard. She has the skills for this as well. And her defensive skills, which are formidable, might work there as well. She can run the floor well and is an excellent finisher at the rim and on the break, and an active rebounder. Could she be an Aubrey Griffin type of player with even better half court skills?
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I gave her a pass as a freshman, but some boneheaded plays that just had me shaking my head. The stupid throwaway after a great steal, she got burned badly on defense most of the game and the gw 3. Again maybe it's cause of high expectations, but she definetely has had struggles.
 
KnightBridgeAZ said:
Ann Schatz is a wonderful announcer. Used to call the Big East Tournament before she went to the PAC12 Network. Very entertaining.

Now, bear in mind I don't watch much PAC12 on TV - we got SlingTV so we could watch Arizona away games, mostly, and I don't care for the way it seems to work. In any case, I haven't seen Mary Murphy that much, but again, in the day, she called NY LIberty games as well as some of the west coast games for either ESPN or maybe Fox. I didn't mind her then.

Yeah, I like Joan. Every Arizona fan likes Joan. She is actually knowledgeable as far as it goes, but she is an Arizona homer. Only saw her on the call once this year.

I heard that the color commentator last night was Charlie Turner Thorne - I couldn't confirm, I sit next to the opposite end of the announcers table and there were some University VIP's sitting behind the table between me and the TV folks so I couldn't see who was there. If yes - did anyone watch? Was she any good?
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I thought Charlie Turner Thorne was very good as the analyst. My favorite new analyst is Syd Weise, former OSU guard. Not because she is an OSU grad, but I really like her demeanor, knowledge, and her calm voice.
 
LoTrader said:
I thought Charlie Turner Thorne was very good as the analyst. My favorite new analyst is Syd Weise, former OSU guard. Not because she is an OSU grad, but I really like her demeanor, knowledge, and her calm voice.
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Haven't had a chance to hear Syd yet, but CTT has instantly become my favorite Pac-12 analyst. Her insights are so advanced that she catches even the really small things and she explains for the rest of us who don't quite understand how a certain screen was supposed to work, or why a seemingly egregious non-call shouldn't have been called.

If this is what she's doing in "retirement," I dare say she'll have a very successful second career.
 
No games are final, but might be another wacky day in the Pac 12. A bunch of games early in 2nd half currently. Could be a couple big upsets by road teams brewing.
 
USC thumped Colorado. Big road win for the Trojans.

We are on the verge of having a 4 way logjam for 2nd place.
 
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Washington eeks out a win in Tempe 55-53 over ASU. Cal is the only possible team that ASU can catch up to at this point.
 
Washington St. is going to beat Arizona in Tucson. Home teams are winless thus far and another looking like they are going to lose.
 
Holy cow, Leger-Walker is 0-13 from the floor and they're still gonna get the W. How in the world does Arizona let that happen? The Cats are a fairly major disappointment I'd say. They have talented players, but they just aren't coming together as a team.
 
Pili put on her Superwoman cape and willed Utah to a win. 3 of the starters stunk today. She hit a 3 to tie it and a tough layup splitting 2 defenders to go up by 2 w/ less than a second left. UCLA controlled almost the entire second half but let this one slip away.

edit--Jones' 3 was just a tad long, rimmed out. I don't know how you inbound the ball and get a shot up in less than a second.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Holy cow, Leger-Walker is 0-13 from the floor and they're still gonna get the W. How in the world does Arizona let that happen? The Cats are a fairly major disappointment I'd say. They have talented players, but they just aren't coming together as a team.
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Can't wait to see Adia Barnes press conference. Low key I think she'll throw her team under the bus.
 
nwhoopfan said:
Holy cow, Leger-Walker is 0-13 from the floor and they're still gonna get the W. How in the world does Arizona let that happen? The Cats are a fairly major disappointment I'd say. They have talented players, but they just aren't coming together as a team.
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Well, the kitties, at home, demonstrated

A. On any given Sunday

or (more likely)

B. The importance of coaching
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Washington eeks out a win in Tempe 55-53 over ASU. Cal is the only possible team that ASU can catch up to at this point.
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They won't. Sun Devils on the way to 20 losses and winless in conference.

Coach Adair may have a short tenure in Tempe
 
TheFarmFan said:
Haven't had a chance to hear Syd yet, but CTT has instantly become my favorite Pac-12 analyst. Her insights are so advanced that she catches even the really small things and she explains for the rest of us who don't quite understand how a certain screen was supposed to work, or why a seemingly egregious non-call shouldn't have been called.

If this is what she's doing in "retirement," I dare say she'll have a very successful second career.
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Ikr!!!!

She is sorely missed coaching, obviously.
 
azfan said:
They won't. Sun Devils on the way to 20 losses and winless in conference.

Coach Adair may have a short tenure in Tempe
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I did say possible, not likely.

Yeah, I didn't think that was a great hire at the time, hasn't gotten better with age.
 
Stanford's offensive issues makes them very vulnerable despite their terrific defense. A 6-pt lead at the half on Oregon despite the Ducks shooting 7-40?
 
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