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Pac 12 as we know it: 23-24 Season Outlook

OMG that was a rock fight. Both teams barely over 30% shooting (and both around 20% from 3). But UCLA up to their old tricks, 18 O boards, 14 more shot attempts. Also some nasty free throw defense, holding the Dawgs to 3-8 from the charity stripe. I had some reason for optimism the way last year ended, but Year 3 of Langley is looking very Jody Wynn-esque. Can I please have a decent team? It's been seven years. I've suffered enough.
 
nwhoopfan said:
OMG that was a rock fight. Both teams barely over 30% shooting (and both around 20% from 3). But UCLA up to their old tricks, 18 O boards, 14 more shot attempts. Also some nasty free throw defense, holding the Dawgs to 3-8 from the charity stripe. I had some reason for optimism the way last year ended, but Year 3 of Langley is looking very Jody Wynn-esque. Can I please have a decent team? It's been seven years. I've suffered enough.
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Has it been that long since Kelsey left the Huskies?
 
MSGRET said:
Has it been that long since Kelsey left the Huskies?
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This is year 7, but it's feeling like another lost season at this point. 4 under Wynn, third season for Langley, and maybe next year will be her last if this persists and we can try it all over again.
 
nwhoopfan said:
No Vanslooten for Oregon tonight. What is going on? No Noble for Washington. 3 different teams with a starter out and I didn't hear a peep about anything all week.
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I was shocked Oregon played Utah as close as it did
 
nwhoopfan said:
No Vanslooten for Oregon tonight. What is going on? No Noble for Washington. 3 different teams with a starter out and I didn't hear a peep about anything all week.
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Um, 4. No Gilbert for Arizona. She was dressed on the bench "in case" but had a wrap around her mid-section. One of the fans in our row was told she has a back injury.

You want to see a tired 7 players, yikes. Only Pueyo played the whole game, minus a ceremonial removal at the end.
 
nwhoopfan said:
This is year 7, but it's feeling like another lost season at this point. 4 under Wynn, third season for Langley, and maybe next year will be her last if this persists and we can try it all over again.
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And Oregon following suit.
Those multi starred athletes are just miserably coached and not getting the most out of themselves. Graves has to bank those international players he brought in are heavy game changers. I except another exodus of players after this year. Probably GVC, Chance Gray, maybe Bell will transfer to OSU.
 
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Jorislove said:
And Oregon following suit.
Those multi starred athletes are just miserably coached and not getting the most out of themselves. Graves has to bank those international players he brought in are heavy game changers. I except another exodus of players after this year. Probably GVC, Chance Gray, maybe Bell will transfer to OSU.
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I'll trade you one of Washington's guards for one of Oregon's posts. Anybody with size, don't care who. Daniels is literally all by herself, and it isn't working.
 
nwhoopfan said:
UCLA shook up their starting lineup, w/ Jacquez and Sontag. No Betts at all according to the box score. Was there anything about an injury that slipped under the radar?
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Per ESPN recap - "Lauren Betts, UCLA’s leading scorer at 15.4 points per game and one of the top players in the country, did not play due to undisclosed medical reasons. Washington’s Jayda Noble, a starter, did not make the trip to Los Angeles for undisclosed reasons."
 
nwhoopfan said:
This is year 7, but it's feeling like another lost season at this point. 4 under Wynn, third season for Langley, and maybe next year will be her last if this persists and we can try it all over again.
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I think it will be hard keeping Rueck at OSU according to some Washington Huskies who would like him. Could they pay him in Seattle is the big question. Need to make it a priority at all costs in keeping him.
 
Things starting to spread out a bit in conf standings after yesterday's games, and could do it again after tomorrow's games:
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nwhoopfan said:
I'll trade you one of Washington's guards for one of Oregon's posts. Anybody with size, don't care who. Daniels is literally all by herself, and it isn't working.
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I will trade you one Kelly Graves for one of your Washington student managers. Probably get more coaching effort out of the student manager.;)
 
I enjoy the PAC12 as much or more than most and make it a point to watch as many of these games as possible but the lack of an offensive scheme by so many of these schools has me banging my head. Washington-UCLA was 23-21 AT THE HALF! Cal-Arizona score 6 and 8 points each in the 4th quarte. The absolute “Homer cheering announcers” keep touting the defense yet all I see is dribble, dribble, dribble and poor shooting. In the Stanford game I watch Stanford miss a shot, Iriafen got the rebound and then proceeded to miss 4 SHOTS under the hoop before making one. And yes, @nwhoopfan ASU really is terrible. Adair needs to start recruiting at a P5 level soon otherwise she will be the cellar dwellar in the Big12 next year as well.

I have to keep reminding myself that College Coaching is all about 1. Recruiting 2. Recruiting 3. Coaching players to improve 4. Running a program 5. Actual X‘s and O’s for game management and the PAC12 has quite a few good at recruiting but not so good at #3 and #5….
 
Figurehead said:
I think it will be hard keeping Rueck at OSU according to some Washington Huskies who would like him. Could they pay him in Seattle is the big question. Need to make it a priority at all costs in keeping him.
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Are you stirring the pot or being serious? I'd say before their revival this year he'd lost just about any cache he'd had from jump starting that program and getting them to the Final 4.
 
cancontent said:
How things drastically change after you make a post this season is something else. ;)
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I don't think I've ever seen such a close correlation between a reporter and a complete reversal of whatever trend they just reported on :D
 
DefenseBB said:
I enjoy the PAC12 as much or more than most and make it a point to watch as many of these games as possible but the lack of an offensive scheme by so many of these schools has me banging my head. Washington-UCLA was 23-21 AT THE HALF! Cal-Arizona score 6 and 8 points each in the 4th quarte. The absolute “Homer cheering announcers” keep touting the defense yet all I see is dribble, dribble, dribble and poor shooting. In the Stanford game I watch Stanford miss a shot, Iriafen got the rebound and then proceeded to miss 4 SHOTS under the hoop before making one. And yes, @nwhoopfan ASU really is terrible. Adair needs to start recruiting at a P5 level soon otherwise she will be the cellar dwellar in the Big12 next year as well.

I have to keep reminding myself that College Coaching is all about 1. Recruiting 2. Recruiting 3. Coaching players to improve 4. Running a program 5. Actual X‘s and O’s for game management and the PAC12 has quite a few good at recruiting but not so good at #3 and #5….
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Kiki was just padding her rebounding stats. :p

But seriously, I don't see how you can include Stanford in those who don't have an offensive scheme or who haven't coached players like Kiki to improve.
 
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Very interesting weekend. Oregon St. has very much inserted themselves into the conference race, now sitting in 3rd place. Washington St. got a big win over UCLA and is tied w/ USC for 6th.
 
Oregon is already in a 4 game losing streak and has Oregon State, Colorado, Utah, USC, UCLA next.
They would be 0-9 if they didn't pull through with close wins over Arizona and ASU.
Massive fall for a recently former Top 2, Final Four program.
 


This further depletes their bench, but if she feels that she's done, it's best for her to do it on her own terms. Wishing her all the best.
 
Wow, what is going on in Westwood? I've heard Cori Close give some talks on her coaching philosophy and it seems like there should be a good culture at UCLA.
 
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dabears17 said:
Wow, what is going on in Westwood? I've heard Cori Close give some talks on her coaching philosophy and it seems like there should be a good culture at UCLA.
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Nothing nefarious here. Anstey has experienced injury after injury throughout her tenure at UCLA. She had hip surgery before her junior year which limited her playing time last season. Chatted with her last October before the start of the this season. Izzy said she would not use her extra Covid year of eligibility - didn‘t want to continue to stress her body. Doesn’t have interest in a pro career and wants to transitíon to the next stage of her life. Really loves her team and the program.

Lauren Betts and Anstey share an apartment and they are quite close. Betts said Anstey helped her adjust to UCLA after transferring from Stanford. Izzy gives Lauren feedback and pointers during games. Lauren said Anstey is one of the smartest people she knows.
 
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nwhoopfan said:
Are you stirring the pot or being serious? I'd say before their revival this year he'd lost just about any cache he'd had from jump starting that program and getting them to the Final 4.
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Yeah. I remember thinking that they had seriously underperformed last year compared to what I had expected from their talent level.
 
You just have to hand it to Rueck in being such a good coach. Even after some bad years he can come back this strong is impressive.
And even his worst years he still beats Graves teams. Unfortunately for the ducks
 
Jorislove said:
You just have to hand it to Rueck in being such a good coach. Even after some bad years he can come back this strong is impressive.
And even his worst years he still beats Graves teams. Unfortunately for the ducks
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And to think, last season folks had Rueck on the hot seat. Winning changes a lot.
 
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