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Outbound Talent to CSU vs Inbound Talent from Toledo

I think it's normal for players to seek cohesive consistency.

To have to learn a new system, and have to gain trust from a different coach is so something players don't want to deal with.

That transition is challenging to learn a new vocabulary and terminology, different play sets and procedure.

This is no surprise and it's beneficial to us to have guys that know what to, where to be on the field and know what to expect.

For the guys in that end up staying it's a chance to earn some playing time.

All in all, I'm very pleased that there will be some sort of foundation in place to help everyone else figure it out.
 
Is there incentive for proven P4 talent to go to UConn? My concern is that it might be more difficult to get good OH/MI talent to UConn as some may have gone to Toledo because it was close to home.
 
Waquoit said:
The guy clearly has a plan, I'm sure he's not bringing in any Toledo guys that he doesn't think can help him win. I don't understand the agita. Are people saying he's bringing these guys in instead of other, better players? This kinda reminds me of the host of folks here insisting Fagnano got the starting job originally because of his relationship to the new OC, not merit. Again, Hurley's first roster was 15% guys he brought with him from Rhody. And one of those guys in the NBA now.
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I'm loving this. is he going to have to bring in other guys? sure. That he's gotten this many to cross over is a very good sign because it shows you how many of them believe in this coach.
 
Bongo Fury said:
Is there incentive for proven P4 talent to go to UConn? My concern is that it might be more difficult to get good OH/MI talent to UConn as some may have gone to Toledo because it was close to home.
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What people don't realize is that there is a ton of football talent in the Northeast defined as New England, New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. In 2025, there were 2 5*, 21 4*s, and 141 3*s from those states which have 5 P4 programs. Many of them commit to other P4 programs, but they want to transfer closer to home. And, here is another fact that people miss out on. There are about the same number of schools playing college football at all levels in New England/NY as there are in Texas and Florida combined. As Randy Edsall showed us again and again, there are tons of underdeveloped high school football players in New England/New York that are not ranked by recruiting services compared to other areas in the country.
 
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noeynox said:
I have friend who is a season ticket holder at Penn State. They're saying the exact same thing you are regarding Matt Campbell. But when you are losing close to 50 players between portal and graduation I think this is absolute right approach. Bring in guys you already recruited because you know their football talent and have a better feel for the type of character they have and thats important for the team culture you're trying to have.
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Very good point
 
Bongo Fury said:
Is there incentive for proven P4 talent to go to UConn? My concern is that it might be more difficult to get good OH/MI talent to UConn as some may have gone to Toledo because it was close to home.
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There's plenty of incentive to come to UConn. The ability to play instantly right now, great school, great fans, 2 hours from NYC and Boston, Dairy Bar and so one. Someone that wants playing time from say a mid tier SEC or ACC school can come to UConn and get playing time pretty much from the get go. Not to mention, we can point to success of kids after they transfer and in the NFL.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
It's difficult to say.

On the one hand, I think DoctorWho85 might be right that we can go 13-0 and fall just shy of the playoffs due to bias.

On the other hand, I think he's wrong... we're winning the whole thing...
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You should sue him for stealing your theme.

Give Business Lawyer a call.
 
Jetskies said:
i got thumbed down majorly here, for saying "i don't want to be a MAC team".
this ^ is what i was meant. but i guess the boneyard sees it differently than me.

it is too early to tell. the coach knows everything we do and more. I will stay quiet on judgment until next season. fingers crossed, man... fingers crossed.
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For every journey, there is a first step. These are the first few steps of the Candle era. For the time being, I am content with progress.
 
I have no idea but wondering if Indiana fans were concerned that recruits were coming from JMU or to Vandy from New Mexico State. Iowa State to PSU. There is a trend to hire a team. Hopefully there is success at UConn. It looked like a re-build even if Mora hadn’t left.
 
I appreciated what Mora did for UConn as the last 2 seasons have been a great success. But, I don't think Mora was building a sustainable model for winning and Candle is now dealing with fixing it. What do I mean? Mora really deemphasized high school recruiting and depended too much on the transfer portal. His HS recruiting class sizes his last 3 years averaged about 13 players per year which is too low in my opinion due to normal attrition which has increased due to the transfer portal. During the same 3 years, Candle brought in ~21 high school recruits per year at Toledo which I think is a much better number.
 
Windham4th said:
If a player commits because of the Dairy Bar, I dont want them on the team.
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It was a joke

But really, what’s not to like?

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NobodyKnows said:
Focusing on how many P4 guys we bring in means NOTHING.

Nick Evers came from P4. Joe Fagnano came from FCS: Who was the better quarterback?

Candle needs to focus on ability, and potential to fit his scheme…not the brand of school the recruit comes from.

Toledo was able to be competitive against Louisville in their bowl game. Toledo had a backup QB. Louisville had their starting senior QB. The finale score was 27-22. Meanwhile UConn was getting dog walked by Army (who loss to an FCS team).

If you look at recruiting rankings. Toledo has consistently ranked higher than us with their recruiting classes.

Because of that I’m gonna trust that Candle will bring in some guys.
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I agree. Mora did have a way of identifying talent but his recruiting classes / portal activity were not all that impressive.

Candle has to level up now and try to get some key talent positions filled but I think we he is in a slightly better situation and expect him to bring some talent into Storrs.
 
UConnJim said:
Take this as you may, but we are in the early stages of portal commits as there are a ton of holes to fill. The Toledo players were first to be courted due to relationships, etc. After this first phase of commits, you will see portal recruits from all over.
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I am hoping for the Toledo safety and center. That would be it.
 
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Bongo Fury said:
Is there incentive for proven P4 talent to go to UConn? My concern is that it might be more difficult to get good OH/MI talent to UConn as some may have gone to Toledo because it was close to home.
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This will always be a struggle here unless we land in a P4 conference. Nailing head coach hires is beyond important here. Mora had success luring players here because of his NFL background and a lot of college players want someone like that. Mora left the next thing that brings portal/recruits, a winning team. Candle needs to carry the momentum forward and higher players will want to come here, even if it’s just for a year. Otherwise we can’t offer as much. We don’t have a conference. Dave has done an amazing job at keeping that CBS TV deal but we really don’t get massive exposure. Plus let’s face it, CFB isn’t really huge up here.

So the incentive will always need to be a coach that can help prep players for the NFL and have a record of getting them there. Or a coach who is a consistent winner. Candle has shown he can do that at Toledo.
 
We are known as a basketball school for good reason but at every football game this year we had more fans than the PBA can hold. And we got off to a poor start this season. UConn FB is our NFL team basically. People are there for FB in our State if we field a competitive team. It is a fun affordable day for folks. And just like back in the day when we got into the BE for BB there was a big fanbase that was ready to be relevant in BB there is that fanbase that wants that for FB.
 
Bongo Fury said:
Is there incentive for proven P4 talent to go to UConn? My concern is that it might be more difficult to get good OH/MI talent to UConn as some may have gone to Toledo because it was close to home.
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Don't worry my man, competitors go where competitors compete. Storrs is going to be even more competitive for FB 12 months from now!
 
I think people are overlooking that Toldeo was actually pretty good with this talent in 2025. They lost 5 games but they could have won all but the Washington State game (all their wins were blowouts). We lost 4 - we could have lost 6 or could have gone undefeated. Other than us beating Duke at home and them losing at Kentucky, the schedules weren't too different. Toledo was ranked 2 years ago - we haven't been ranked in over a decade. This isn't just "some MAC team" and we aren't becoming UMass.

I will start to worry if I don't know who the QB1, RB1 and WR1 + WR2 are going to be. There's so much jockeying that has to happen between now and then. This is about what we are paying guys at this point. If UConn is a top G6 destination, it will be fine. We have the money and facilities.
 
For reference, based on 247 HS ratings, 6 of the people he has brought over from Toledo would have been in our top 25 EVER recruited here. He is definitely not bringing a bunch of scrubs, but what appears to be really quality guys and if you go by the rankings, better than Mora brought here.
 
AllHusky said:
Don't worry my man, competitors go where competitors compete. Storrs is going to be even more competitive for FB 12 months from now!
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Not worried. Just think it a bit unrealistic that that a bunch of proven, playing P4 players are going to go to UConn and not another P4 school. Some of those MAC transfers possible could have gone to P4 schools instead of UConn.
 
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