Outbound Talent to CSU vs Inbound Talent from Toledo

[Kolumbo]

Based on 2025 UConn >= Toledo > CSU. UConn and Toledo were more comparable while CSU was awful. mora is a great motivator and salesman and his players must really love him to transfer all the way out to colorado to play in that conference. it will be a nice conference but probably behind the American and maybe the Sun Belt. New Mexico, UNLV, and Hawaii actually finished in the top half of the MWC and are staying in the MWC. a CSU fan actually referred to the PAC 12 as regional! It covers a region alright!

UConn is a much better option in terms of schedule, exposure, location and HCJC is a better college coach in a situation with more opportunity.

Interesting UConn plays at Air Force and at Wyoming in 2026.

 

[Kolumbo]

Using the 247 class calculator we currently have a projected team score of 186.48. That would place us at 68th overall. Colorado state is
67th overall but that is with 25 recruits to our 21.

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Nice. I am seeing UConn currently at 124 with 133.01 and 10 Commits but that projection is nice. CSU had an early jump when they hired mora and he immediately brought UConn players but CSU has since dropped and UConn will certainly climb.

 

[Coach J]

Nice. I am seeing UConn currently at 124 with 133.01 and 10 Commits but that projection is nice. CSU had an early jump when they hired mora and he immediately brought UConn players but CSU has since dropped and UConn will certainly climb.

Yeah, 247 is notoriously slow updating non-p4 teams on their website and they are seemingly super slow updating UConn's football recruits.

 

[RSTuthill]

The 9 wins was due to Joe, Skyler, Cam, and the offensive line primarily. Everyone got a good hard look what we looked like without them vs Army and it wasn't pretty.

Pass protection was pretty awesome. Running between the tackles not so much.

 

[Kembafan]

Pass protection was pretty awesome. Running between the tackles not so much.

Yeah Cam is stellar but our run game was mostly bad. It was a head scratcher tbh

 

[Chin Diesel]

Pass protection was pretty awesome. Running between the tackles not so much.

The line was built to optimize the outside zone run.

Which means between the tackle running will suffer.

There's a reason why almost no team is good at all three types of blocking- pass, outside, and inside.

 

[RSTuthill]

The line was built to optimize the outside zone run.

Which means between the tackle running will suffer.

There's a reason why almost no team is good at all three types of blocking- pass, outside, and inside.

Would you care to go into more depth? We have heard this for a very long time. What is different in offensive linemen who possess the outside run blocking ability rather than inside run blocking? Agility more important than size, vs. size more important than agility? Quicknees of the guards so they can pull vs. size of the guards so they can open holes inside?

 

[Chin Diesel]

Would you care to go into more depth? We have heard this for a very long time. What is different in offensive linemen who possess the outside run blocking ability rather than inside run blocking? Agility more important than size, vs. size more important than agility? Quicknees of the guards so they can pull vs. size of the guards so they can open holes inside?

As best as my limited knowledge can provide, generally speaking, if you run a zone scheme the linemen need to be quicker, faster and more agile to get to the outside and create lanes. UConn's guards and center are "small" by D1 football standards. If you want to power the ball down the middle of the line, you want bigger, stronger, more physical players.

The few linemen in college who are big and strong enough to move DT's down the field, and quick and agile enough to get out in space, are out of UConn's price range.

Other than Big Ben at LT, all of UConn's OLine were lighter than normal for their position. They had height but they weighed less.

 

[RSTuthill]

As best as my limited knowledge can provide, generally speaking, if you run a zone scheme the linemen need to be quicker, faster and more agile to get to the outside and create lanes. UConn's guards and center are "small" by D1 football standards. If you want to power the ball down the middle of the line, you want bigger, stronger, more physical players.

The few linemen in college who are big and strong enough to move DT's down the field, and quick and agile enough to get out in space, are out of UConn's price range.

Other than Big Ben at LT, all of UConn's OLine were lighter than normal for their position. They had height but they weighed less.

What you and I said are virtually the same except you mentioned running a zone with the OL. That made me fall off the sled. I thought on virtually every rushing play there are specific man assignments and then secondary assignments if they knock their primary assignment out of the play. For instance whatever LB they encounter if the play is designed to go through that gap. You are saying they run zones? You are referring to a pulling guard for instance?

 

[AllHusky]

Love this stuff. I am a fan, not a former player/coach, so this kind of exchange "levels up" my knowledge. Carry on Professors.

 

[RSTuthill]

Love this stuff. I am a fan, not a former player/coach, so this kind of exchange "levels up" my knowledge. Carry on Professors.

Well, I don't even know enough to be dangerous. My objective is to learn.

 

[AllHusky]

Well, I don't even know enough to be dangerous. My objective is to learn.

Just win baby!!

 

[FfldCntyFan]

What you and I said are virtually the same except you mentioned running a zone with the OL. That made me fall off the sled. I thought on virtually every rushing play there are specific man assignments and then secondary assignments if they knock their primary assignment out of the play. For instance whatever LB they encounter if the play is designed to go through that gap. You are saying they run zones? You are referring to a pulling guard for instance?

This will teach you.

 

[AllHusky]

Is Coach George still in the game?

 

[Windham4th]

Every I know about football I learned from Tecmo Bowl.

Each team has 4 offensive plays and 4 defensive plays.

 

[ArtTheFan]

Is Coach George still in the game?

No, he's coaching in Heaven.... Died in 2022

 

[AllHusky]

No, he's coaching in Heaven.... Died in 2022

RIP

 

[uconnyankee]

Every I know about football I learned from Tecmo Bowl.

Each team has 4 offensive plays and 4 defensive plays.

And you want to be Bo Jackson or LT.

 

[uconnfan68]

Diversification is a sound investment philosophy. Having a 15-20 frosh class each year will be a developmental hedge against portal turnover. Candle modus operandi has shown retention of roster to be a strength.

He has to get a roster first.

 

[AllHusky]

Thinking that last night. Stop the music now and what is your starting lineup(include portal guys without a home yet). How far are we from a “team”? Obviously there are going to be quite a few additions(and subtractions) between now and July 1, but it’ll give you an idea.

Looking at guys we are sure that will be here, we’ve only got 33 I believe. Long way to go.

 

[Chin Diesel]

What you and I said are virtually the same except you mentioned running a zone with the OL. That made me fall off the sled. I thought on virtually every rushing play there are specific man assignments and then secondary assignments if they knock their primary assignment out of the play. For instance whatever LB they encounter if the play is designed to go through that gap. You are saying they run zones? You are referring to a pulling guard for instance?

As I mentioned, I am limited in my knowledge. Here is how AI described the principles of zone blocking schemes.

 

[Kolumbo]

I'm really curious of the tallies if anyone is keeping track. How many players and recruits are flipping from Toledo to UConn vs from UConn to CSU. Next year could be really tough for Toledo. Looked up some info if not already posted.

Toledo New coach: Michael Jacobs (46) coming from Mercer in Georgia, also coached at Purdue, Cal, ND. From Ohio and played at Ohio State. Mercer was 8-0 and 9-2 in the SoCon and ranked 18. Could be an excellent recruiter himself.

 

[How Sway?!]

I was disappointed in the number of Toledo recruits that had followed coach Candle but the last few recruits have softened that disappointment.

 

[AllHusky]

I was disappointed in the number of Toledo recruits that had followed coach Candle but the last few recruits have softened that disappointment.

I guess there were 2 everyone was really high on, center and safety, that we didn’t get. Feeling as though we did pretty good with the upper crust kids

 

[KryHavok]

I'm really curious of the tallies if anyone is keeping track. How many players and recruits are flipping from Toledo to UConn vs from UConn to CSU. Next year could be really tough for Toledo. Looked up some info if not already posted.

As of 3:42 PM EST today (portal only):
From UConn to CSU, the outflow is 8.
From Toledo to UConn, the inflow is 15.
Also add in 7 players coming to UConn from P4 programs. It's been a steady build.