Our three point shooting

[UCTitleTown]

Just to play devil's advocate, maybe we're actually not a good three point shooting team?

 

[NickDanger]

Illinios is as good as Purdue. At least close. Marquette too.

Nope

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Balls are overinflated at many neutral sites. Causes 3s to go long.

Rumors (or possibly viral conspiracy theories) are that something has been done. over inflating balls, over tightening rims, whatever, to make it more difficult to hit threes in the tournament. Whether this is or is not the case, we willl continue to move forward.

 

[tzznandrew]

Just to play devil's advocate, maybe we're actually not a good three point shooting team?

Even after 4 games of bad shooting from 3, we're still shooting 36% as a team. That's...that's pretty darn good from 3. It's 78th in the country.

Just in BE games (more indicative i think of our shooting), the team shot 38%. So...yeah, this is a good 3 point shooting team. They're just dealing with variance and inflated balls(?).

 

[Tenspro2002]

Why are some teams/players/games affected more by weird/over-inflated balls than others?

Alabama shot 16-36 (about what they'd have to do to beat us) yesterday. Duke's McCain was like 8-11 last weekend.

 

[uconngb]

UConn was 3 for 17 last night and 6 for 39 for three against Northwestern and Illinois combined. It shows the dominance of Clingan and just how truly great this team is. What happens when we start knocking down threes?

Let’s just hope we do. The trend is not our friend.

 

[uconngb]

Inflategate. Clearly a conspiracy against Uconn.

 

[HooperScooper]

Just to play devil's advocate, maybe we're actually not a good three point shooting team?

After 38 games this season and 904 attempts, a very big sample size, the team is a tick under 36%. That's good for 77th in D1. So while not elite, that's not terrible either. They've been off during the NCAA Tournament. But you know what they say about water finding its level? So it's coming. At least that's my hope.

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[Hans Sprungfeld]

Just to play devil's advocate, maybe we're actually not a good three point shooting team?

Devil probably needs no advocate, and pretty likely wouldn't choose you.

Are you really seeking the job?

It's almost always a terrible framing.

 

[Woodson]

Inflategate. Clearly a conspiracy against Uconn.

More so against all the high volume 3 point shooting teams

 

[Scottobot]

Newton and Karaban have always been streaky shooters, and they seem to make the clutch ones when the team needs them, and we certainly didn’t need them in this game. This whole thread is just ridiculous. The team sets a record for dominating the ncaa tournament and you are freaking out about the one statistic that wasn’t perfect out of of 100s of stats.

YES UConn has to play well to win a title, but they have been playing well all year. YES they could have 1 bad game and lose in a single elimination tournament. But this is perhaps the greatest UConn team ever, and they are in the final four two years in a row. Stop freaking out and enjoy the ride.

 

[Scottobot]

To add to that at the start of the San Diego State game San Diego St was on fire, on offense, and we did not some three pointers and Karaban made 2 huge ones that were nothing but net, one of them fro, like 30 feet.

 

[Mike Honcho]

Balls are overinflated at many neutral sites. Causes 3s to go long.

I just crunched the numbers to see if there's any truth to this. It doesn't look like it, unless you're suggesting there are some geographical anomalies.

I looked at all of the 64 teams (didn't bother with the first four) and what they shot cumulatively for the season from deep versus what they shot during March Madness.

Overall, the teams shot a collective 35.36% from three during the season (exclusive of MM), and 34.43% during March Madness. It's been awhile since I took stats but I assume increased level of competition has something to do with the marginally lower percentage.

I also looked at it team by team. We're shooting 8.6% below our 3P average (28.1% vs 36.7%) and have the highest deviation from the mean of any team that made it to the Elite 8. The next closest is Duke, that shot it 5.3% below their 3P average (33.3% vs 38.6%).

Alabama, of teams that made the E8, is at the other end of the spectrum. They're shooting 41.4% in the tournament, which is 4.9% better than their 36.5% season average.

 

[HuskyWarrior611]

After 38 games this season and 904 attempts, a very big sample size, the team is a tick under 36%. That's good for 77th in D1. So while not elite, that's not terrible either. They've been off during the NCAA Tournament. But you know what they say about water finding its level? So it's coming. At least that's my hope.

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While we’re not bad at 3s I don’t think we rely on them to win games. Which is a great thing.

Whether we shoot 40% or 10% doesn’t matter much for us these days.

 

[caw]

I just crunched the numbers to see if there's any truth to this. It doesn't look like it, unless you're suggesting there are some geographical anomalies.

I looked at all of the 64 teams (didn't bother with the first four) and what they shot cumulatively for the season from deep versus what they shot during March Madness.

Overall, the teams shot a collective 35.36% from three during the season (exclusive of MM), and 34.43% during March Madness. It's been awhile since I took stats but I assume increased level of competition has something to do with the marginally lower percentage.

I also looked at it team by team. We're shooting 8.6% below our 3P average (28.1% vs 36.7%) and have the highest deviation from the mean of any team that made it to the Elite 8. The next closest is Duke, that shot it 5.3% below their 3P average (33.3% vs 38.6%).

Alabama, of teams that made the E8, is at the other end of the spectrum. They're shooting 41.4% in the tournament, which is 4.9% better than their 36.5% season average.

I think the point was each site had pumped them differently but I have no clue if that’s true.

 

[willie99]

When you're destroying teams the way we've been destroying teams, I just don't see any weakness

We're destroying teams, what more can we do?

 

[nomar]

When you're destroying teams the way we've been destroying teams, I just don't see any weakness

We're destroying teams, what more can we do?

Then what happened vs Creighton? What happens if we go 3/20 and Bama shoots 15/30? Our defense is awesome but sometimes teams get really hot from deep. (And what happens if DC and/or SC pick up 2 early fouls?) If we’re not making 3s, we need transition hoops, and for that we need long rebounds. Fewer Bama misses, fewer transition hoops.

I’m not saying that’s likely but 3-point shooting is, in fact, a weakness if we continue shooting this way. 28% is bad.

 

[OceanDoggie]

I'm not a conspiracy kind of Guy, stuff is happening on the Women's side:

NCAA under fire after three-point lines ‘not the same distance’ in women’s tournament

The NCAA has come under criticism after it was discovered that the three-point lines were different lengths from the hoop on the two sides of the court in Portland

www.theguardian.com

 

[uconnyankee]

I just crunched the numbers to see if there's any truth to this. It doesn't look like it, unless you're suggesting there are some geographical anomalies.

I looked at all of the 64 teams (didn't bother with the first four) and what they shot cumulatively for the season from deep versus what they shot during March Madness.

Overall, the teams shot a collective 35.36% from three during the season (exclusive of MM), and 34.43% during March Madness. It's been awhile since I took stats but I assume increased level of competition has something to do with the marginally lower percentage.

I also looked at it team by team. We're shooting 8.6% below our 3P average (28.1% vs 36.7%) and have the highest deviation from the mean of any team that made it to the Elite 8. The next closest is Duke, that shot it 5.3% below their 3P average (33.3% vs 38.6%).

Alabama, of teams that made the E8, is at the other end of the spectrum. They're shooting 41.4% in the tournament, which is 4.9% better than their 36.5% season average.

Curious if the data suggests a bigger deviation at particular sights than others, or is it pretty much same across the board

 

[willie99]

Then what happened vs Creighton? What happens if we go 3/20 and Bama shoots 15/30? Our defense is awesome but sometimes teams get really hot from deep. (And what happens if DC and/or SC pick up 2 early fouls?) If we’re not making 3s, we need transition hoops, and for that we need long rebounds. Fewer Bama misses, fewer transition hoops.

I’m not saying that’s likely but 3-point shooting is, in fact, a weakness if we continue shooting this way. 28% is bad.

Good God, stop

You have the best team in the country. Doesn't mean they're going to win every game.

If you can find a problem with this team, that's 1000% on you.

 

[nomar]

Good God, stop

You have the best team in the country. Doesn't mean they're going to win every game.

If you can find a problem with this team, that's 1000% on you.

Good God, read.

It’s not a problem. It’s not a likely problem. It’s a potential problem. Pretty obvious from what I wrote.

 

[willie99]

OK, you lost me at "what happened vs Creighton"

We're taking what they give us, because we can. And with AZ gone, we don't have to worry about a home court advantage for anyone

 

[freshler40]

Balls are overinflated at many neutral sites. Causes 3s to go long.

Odd comment. Perhaps the strange neutral courts and backgrounds have more to do with the many misses along with the intense defense being played by the desperate one and done games. Seems like most players are jacked up and out of sync.

 

[Scoe]

Hopefully the due factor is in our favor for 2 games regarding 3s.

 

[jibsey]

I saw an interview with Karaban. He said the NCAA tournament balls are tacky and overinflated.

Well he has 6 days to figure out how to get them to go down.